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Apr 6, 2011 4:26 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
An interesting article I came across today:



Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.

What do you think?
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Apr 6, 2011 5:28 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
amahlala: An interesting article I came across today:



Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.

What do you think?



I read the article early this morning because I am a senior, well over 50, and out of a job.

Before reading the article I was convinced that the younger ladies are getting jobs I apply for because they can't demand the salary I was getting after 16 years as a legal assistant.

The job ads I see for legal assistants are requiring 3-5 years experience. That is ground level experience. It's enough to get their foot in the door but they don't have to pay a higher salary.

I think it's stupid on the part of employers not to hire me because I'm paying for Medicare. If I got a corporate job with medical benefits the company would most likely pay a portion of that insurance.

I'm cheap. Hire me rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 6, 2011 5:29 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
I'm in my late forties and I have 3 jobs. One permanent and two casual~anyone want one?

Hi Lala wave hug
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Apr 6, 2011 5:32 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
amahlala: An interesting article I came across today:



Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.

What do you think?


I'd like to support your thread but don't qualify... too old and unfortunately still working.
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Apr 6, 2011 5:33 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Snuggs09: I read the article early this morning because I am a senior, well over 50, and out of a job.

Before reading the article I was convinced that the younger ladies are getting jobs I apply for because they can't demand the salary I was getting after 16 years as a legal assistant.

The job ads I see for legal assistants are requiring 3-5 years experience. That is ground level experience. It's enough to get their foot in the door but they don't have to pay a higher salary.

I think it's stupid on the part of employers not to hire me because I'm paying for Medicare. If I got a corporate job with medical benefits the company would most likely pay a portion of that insurance.

I'm cheap. Hire me


Also cute!
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Apr 6, 2011 5:38 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
Paldi5: Also cute!



Thank you hug
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Apr 6, 2011 5:44 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
It´s always been more difficult for the middle-aged to find work and for a variety of reasons, more so in this day and age where the preference for many companies is to offer only temporary contracts at a lower rate of pay. Permanent contracts are more costly for employers and not particularly tempting for experienced older people.

It depends on the nature of the work in many cases. I´m fortunate that there is no real age discrimination in teaching, at least not in Europe and some other countries I´ve worked in. I don´t know about the US.

Some years ago the big supermarket chains in the UK went all out to employ older people, even those of retirement age, and it was a great success. The older employees provided a much better customer service at check out tills for example than your average bored, youngster. I don´t know if that remains the case having lived in Spain for 7 years now.
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Apr 6, 2011 5:48 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
joyaepace
joyaepacejoyaepaceGalway, Ireland11 Threads 2 Polls 958 Posts
JAN_is: It´s always been more difficult for the middle-aged to find work and for a variety of reasons, more so in this day and age where the preference for many companies is to offer only temporary contracts at a lower rate of pay. Permanent contracts are more costly for employers and not particularly tempting for experienced older people.

It depends on the nature of the work in many cases. I´m fortunate that there is no real age discrimination in teaching, at least not in Europe and some other countries I´ve worked in. I don´t know about the US.

Some years ago the big supermarket chains in the UK went all out to employ older people, even those of retirement age, and it was a great success. The older employees provided a much better customer service at check out tills for example than your average bored, youngster. I don´t know if that remains the case having lived in Spain for 7 years now.


There are some older people working here in Tesco and Marks&Spencer, but most are young. I would say, M&S employ more older people.
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Apr 6, 2011 5:51 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
That's pretty interesting, Amahlala. Thanks for posting this. wave

Glad to know jobs in my age-ranged are booming. smile
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Apr 6, 2011 5:53 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
Blues63: I'm in my late forties and I have 3 jobs. One permanent and two casual~anyone want one?

Hi Lala


I would take your two casual jobs....

HI Blues!hug
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Apr 6, 2011 5:57 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
I've been out of work for almost two years now. I'm in the "catch-22" arena. It seems that I am over qualified for what I do (Executive Administrative Assistant) and most places won't hire me because they feel I would be "bored," "leave for a better position," or my favorite "Not enough pay to keep me."

Of course, when you are broke and on your last extension for unemployment (and in school), any job would make you happy, just so you could eat and pay the bills a bit....
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Apr 6, 2011 6:04 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
serrambi
serrambiserrambisantos, Sao Paulo Brazil5 Threads 303 Posts
Here in Brazil is the same. I had dificulties to find a good job since I was 40 and now am 50 and I am working as manager at a big shop , selling eletric bikes, only cause my brother is the boss!!

So, is not easy indeed!

And.... as a woman, we need to work hard to show that we are good professionals, more then a men...

Good night to everybody, I had a hard day today :)

yawn hug
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Apr 6, 2011 7:17 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
I am 46 and working in home support
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Apr 6, 2011 9:41 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
I'm in professions (two different ones) where age is an asset, and where being young means generally means people don't take you too seriously.

On flights recently, both overseas and domestic, I couldn't helping noticing that both female and male stewards were of mixed age groups, 30's to 50's. Great to see.


wine
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Apr 7, 2011 2:08 AM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
amahlala: An interesting article I came across today:



Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.

What do you think?


I think that if you can leave home or, can get rid of the reasons you can't then there is no reason why you couldn't have been making fifty grand plus all this time.

Unemployment is for people too scared to change.
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Apr 7, 2011 2:16 AM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
amahlala: An interesting article I came across today:



Seems that jobs are on the upswing but only for certain age ranges.

What do you think?
thank god i have my own business a stationery shop
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Apr 7, 2011 10:09 AM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
Albertaghost: I think that if you can leave home or, can get rid of the reasons you can't then there is no reason why you couldn't have been making fifty grand plus all this time.

Unemployment is for people too scared to change.


Unemployment is not for people too scared to change. I am in school currently (another debt burden) to get a degree in the field I enjoy and still searching for work. Almost two years Alberta and I have the folders, files and rejections letters for everything I have applied for.
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Apr 7, 2011 12:26 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
amahlala: I've been out of work for almost two years now. I'm in the "catch-22" arena. It seems that I am over qualified for what I do (Executive Administrative Assistant) and most places won't hire me because they feel I would be "bored," "leave for a better position," or my favorite "Not enough pay to keep me."

Of course, when you are broke and on your last extension for unemployment (and in school), any job would make you happy, just so you could eat and pay the bills a bit....


i hate that crap

dont decide for me what is or isnt enuf payvery mad

it is my decision and my private business what my needs and budget are and if i am applying i am obviously willing to work for the wage offeredfrustrated

its a bogus reason to hire someone else at the lower end of the pay scale their budget has alloted -and also someone with less know how who will be more easily managedvery mad


this is why i work for myself

hi lala
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Apr 7, 2011 12:39 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
AtwoZ
AtwoZAtwoZunknown, Halland Sweden199 Threads 1,699 Posts
Good article,but even though it´s meant for the US,-I would like to contribute.

Over here,-many companies,(inc.the one I work for),are employing/hiring young people,and for the sole reason,-lower costs.

And hiring staff from lowcost nations as well,-and calling it "experts",-which of course it´s not..It´s all about wage dumping....

Meanwhile,educated,skilled midaged people remaining unemployed year in,year out,-til they´re put into early retirement...

And the reason for that,is that,that it doesn´t "count" as unemployed.....So Sweden can show the world alright unemployment figures,even though it´s complete false....

So,people over 40 are having a hard time finding a job..,and it´s getting worser....
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Apr 7, 2011 12:42 PM CST Are you middle-aged and not working?
amahlala
amahlalaamahlalaAberdeen, South Dakota USA21 Threads 8,314 Posts
mindfful: i hate that crap

dont decide for me what is or isnt enuf pay

it is my decision and my private business what my needs and budget are and if i am applying i am obviously willing to work for the wage offered

its a bogus reason to hire someone else at the lower end of the pay scale their budget has alloted -and also someone with less know how who will be more easily managed this is why i work for myself

hi lala


Hi MF!

I agree it is bogus to higher at the lower end of the pay scale in order to keep the sheeples herded...but it's what I hear and see every day.

Would love to work for myself but the means just aren't there at the moment. I do work with my sister on her magazine and social community that she owns and operates (she helps reunite adoptees and their birth families) but obviously this is not something one does for the money nor the prestige.

Lala!bouquet hug
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