jac379: I think there is some truth in what you say, group dynamics can be very interesting, especially on the internet when you've got time to sit back and study dialogue.
We do, however, tend to interpret things from our own perspective and impose our own ideas onto others, which may not necessarily be true.
After being a forum contributor for any length of time, it would be impossible to say hello, or respond to every single person that we know. Some days we respond to some, other days, others.
Some days we may be in a chatty mood, some days we are a bit quiet, or too busy to say more than a few words in between work. None of this means that we ignore, or don't read, or don't enjoy reading a variety of posts. Its just that you don't always get feedback, or acknowledgement.
We are pack animals and as such we sometimes exhibit pack behaviour, whether that's party time, or collectively getting cross with someone's views. Its inevitable to a certain extent, but not necessarily a permenant condition.
One of my favourite forum posters is not vociferous, and appears largely independant from others approval. Maybe there's more quiet admiration for individuals and individuality than people realise.
Lonely1: Lots of truth in what you say. The thing is that what people say can and will be used against them. I have been on CS for a while and see a definite drop in the maturity level over time. Some peeps are not here to share, to discover, and to understand others for who they are. A lot of peeps are here to tear down, pack attack and just be downright crude.
The problem is that they show their true colors this way, so I know the reason why they are who they are.
Cannot agree more. I've been the target of such aggression several times though I couldn't care less that I'm unpopular with the in people.
Now I have to get personal. Most know that I was in a thread a few days ago. The other poster and I disagreed on a subject. I think the majority of people agreed with her and that's fine with me. Prior to that thread, people had fun with me. Since the thread NOBODY responds to my posts.
Now why is that?
I dont know what thread you mean Snuggs...Not that it would make a whit of diff to me I luv ya just the same..And I would certainly not talk to you any less
Snuggs09: I know what you mean, and the same people put up the same stupid thread BUT they are the popular people.
Let me ask it this way. Do you think those stupid threads were written so the person will be popular. It's the same people all the time. Nobody calls them on it because I guess they have a right to write a thread about whatever they way. BUT, my opinion is that they do it to draw attention to be one of the "in" people on CS.
I honestly dont know the reason they continously do it.It could be to attract attention,and be popular,or simply that being part of CS is so important to them. Personally,i enjoy a laugh on here,and have on occasions,when i have felt the need,gone agianst the concensus of opinion.However,its how you go against that general opinion which can have differant responses. If I left CS tomorrow,it wold mean absolutely nothing to me,but to many on here it does.
Snuggs09: No doubt about it, people have emotional needs. I think some fulfill those needs by saying whatever fits at the time so that they will be liked. It might be something funny so that others will laugh. I definitely like to laugh but not at the cost of hurting someone else. When people laugh at jokes the person might think that they are popular. Or, when others disagree with someone, everybody disagrees collectively assuming this makes them one of the “in” people.
People aren’t liked anymore for who they are, what they bring to the table. It seems you need to be one of the crowd whether on CS or RL to be accepted as an individual that you may like whether others like you or not.
Being one of the “in” people has never been important to me. I’ve never been popular but I’ve always been respected.
What I’m seeing on CS is, if two people have a discussion today, there will be people who will side with one of the posters. The more who side with one poster become the popular people and tomorrow they won’t even give the time of day to the other poster, who the day before they were friendly with.
Perhaps being popular builds self-esteem and confidence but how much can you trust that the clique you are in today will watch your back tomorrow.
I will always be true to myself even when I'm bad. CS is only in my minds eye and we know our mind can play tricks on us. Whoops, did I type that? Hit and run, post and go, no need to take it to heart because it is not my real life. Nice to see you back in the forums Snuggs09.
Now I have to get personal. Most know that I was in a thread a few days ago. The other poster and I disagreed on a subject. I think the majority of people agreed with her and that's fine with me. Prior to that thread, people had fun with me. Since the thread NOBODY responds to my posts.
Now why is that?
Lovely lady,as far as i am concerned,it makes no differance to me whatsoever.
maryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada1,370 posts
How important is it to be popular? Not at all.
I would far rather have a handful of very good close friends who like me for me then a huge number of people who would drop you the moment things were not perfect in my life.
AmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK6,217 posts
Does not bother me one iota. It used to..but not anymore. I have far more important things in life to worry about than who hates and likes me in here. I have been shown who my true friends are so it doesnt vex me who speaks badly of me.
At the end of the day no one really knows anyone on here, so they should keep their judgments to themselves
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: I will always be true to myself even when I'm bad. CS is only in my minds eye and we know our mind can play tricks on us. Whoops, did I type that? Hit and run, post and go, no need to take it to heart because it is not my real life. Nice to see you back in the forums Snuggs09.
You made a good point that helps to make my point.
When you write "CS is only in my minds eye .....". That is why it's a problem for me when people ignore me because I take the people on CS very seriously even though they are cyber people. I still think of them as someone who has a heart with feelings. Someone who can be hurt, or is sick or has family problems. When they write about something sad in their life, I feel it in my gut. I take CS people to heart. I think of them as real people.
Snuggs09: You made a good point that helps to make my point.
When you write "CS is only in my minds eye .....". That is why it's a problem for me when people ignore me because I take the people on CS very seriously even though they are cyber people. I still think of them as someone who has a heart with feelings. Someone who can be hurt, or is sick or has family problems. When they write about something sad in their life, I feel it in my gut. I take CS people to heart. I think of them as real people.
You cant carry the wieght of everyones problems on your shoulders.It will just cause you upset.
Snuggs09: You made a good point that helps to make my point.
When you write "CS is only in my minds eye .....". That is why it's a problem for me when people ignore me because I take the people on CS very seriously even though they are cyber people. I still think of them as someone who has a heart with feelings. Someone who can be hurt, or is sick or has family problems. When they write about something sad in their life, I feel it in my gut. I take CS people to heart. I think of them as real people.
"I take the people on CS very seriously even though they are cyber people."
See thats it right there Doll...I dont take any of it to seriously. Maybe you shouldnt either
Snuggs09: No doubt about it, people have emotional needs. I think some fulfill those needs by saying whatever fits at the time so that they will be liked. It might be something funny so that others will laugh. I definitely like to laugh but not at the cost of hurting someone else. When people laugh at jokes the person might think that they are popular. Or, when others disagree with someone, everybody disagrees collectively assuming this makes them one of the “in” people.
People aren’t liked anymore for who they are, what they bring to the table. It seems you need to be one of the crowd whether on CS or RL to be accepted as an individual that you may like whether others like you or not.
Being one of the “in” people has never been important to me. I’ve never been popular but I’ve always been respected.
What I’m seeing on CS is, if two people have a discussion today, there will be people who will side with one of the posters. The more who side with one poster become the popular people and tomorrow they won’t even give the time of day to the other poster, who the day before they were friendly with.
Perhaps being popular builds self-esteem and confidence but how much can you trust that the clique you are in today will watch your back tomorrow.
I like to be liked; of course I do. I think everyone does, really.
Its much nicer to make love not war when you can.
However, sometimes you need to put a point across, and as in a heated debate or argument in real life it can become overheated and you can lose your temper and lose perspective.
I believe that is partly why the mods temporarily ban some from posting; they can spot, with their objective eye when its getting too much for some. When you sit back, and watch the postings you can clearly see the dynamics.
I find heated debate stimulating, and without it life would be dull if we were all the same. However, keep it in perspective for what it is, peeps passing the time of day and nothing more.
maryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada1,370 posts
Snuggs09: You made a good point that helps to make my point.
When you write "CS is only in my minds eye .....". That is why it's a problem for me when people ignore me because I take the people on CS very seriously even though they are cyber people. I still think of them as someone who has a heart with feelings. Someone who can be hurt, or is sick or has family problems. When they write about something sad in their life, I feel it in my gut. I take CS people to heart. I think of them as real people.
Stop thinking of them as real.
If I Started taking being ignored to heart around here I would have a permanentaly broken heart.
Snuggs09: You made a good point that helps to make my point.
When you write "CS is only in my minds eye .....". That is why it's a problem for me when people ignore me because I take the people on CS very seriously even though they are cyber people. I still think of them as someone who has a heart with feelings. Someone who can be hurt, or is sick or has family problems. When they write about something sad in their life, I feel it in my gut. I take CS people to heart. I think of them as real people.
Don't get me wrong Snuggs, I feel and care for the people here also, but I will not let them get under my skin. I have very little contact with posters (emails) unless things need to be clarified.
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We do, however, tend to interpret things from our own perspective and impose our own ideas onto others, which may not necessarily be true.
After being a forum contributor for any length of time, it would be impossible to say hello, or respond to every single person that we know. Some days we respond to some, other days, others.
Some days we may be in a chatty mood, some days we are a bit quiet, or too busy to say more than a few words in between work. None of this means that we ignore, or don't read, or don't enjoy reading a variety of posts. Its just that you don't always get feedback, or acknowledgement.
We are pack animals and as such we sometimes exhibit pack behaviour, whether that's party time, or collectively getting cross with someone's views. Its inevitable to a certain extent, but not necessarily a permenant condition.
One of my favourite forum posters is not vociferous, and appears largely independant from others approval. Maybe there's more quiet admiration for individuals and individuality than people realise.
Very well said Jac.