Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming? ( Archived) (71)

May 29, 2011 3:25 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Rumyet
RumyetRumyetBaku, Azerbaijan118 Threads 16 Polls 1,860 Posts
ooby_dooby: Rumyet this is the best thread you ever created.

Both topics are very important and related to each other. More people = more polution = less resouces for all = faster burning through our natural resourses. Poor countries with high birth rates have lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality, lower standard of living.
I read somewhere that China is ending their 1 child law.

This planet can't support an unlimited number of people. It's too bad so many people don't realize that.
Personally, I wouldn't like to live like the people in sub saharan Africa.


thumbs up i wish my english was better that i could put my opinion as good as u.but u said all of what i wanted to say in this thread.
if china is ending the law that will be very dangerous.cheers cheers
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May 29, 2011 4:25 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Rumyet: i wish my english was better that i could put my opinion as good as u.but u said all of what i wanted to say in this thread.
if china is ending the law that will be very dangerous.
Well I can't speak a word of Azeri. If I went to Azerbaijan I would look and sound like an idiot. rolling on the floor laughing
You speak at least 2 languages so you are way beyond me.thumbs up
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May 29, 2011 4:37 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
nitro2345
nitro2345nitro2345CIUDAD JUAREZ, Chihuahua Mexico81 Posts
one thing led to the other, both are very dengerous and we are now seeing the consecuences of both.
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May 29, 2011 4:37 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
swf1950
swf1950swf1950spring, Texas USA1 Threads 75 Posts
TrueBlue1986: I believe nature should dictate who lives, just as it does with all life when it outgrows its means. If we allow man to govern this affair then how do we ensure the better elements remain?

Surely if we manage this then only the rich will survive, or we'll make it an equal affair - either way the survivors won't survive because of their merit. To do this would be actively working against evolution.


Nature would except science, doctors, bleeding hearts and the government keep interfering.
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May 29, 2011 10:01 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Rumyet: i wish my english was better that i could put my opinion as good as u.but u said all of what i wanted to say in this thread.
if china is ending the law that will be very dangerous.

That depends. Put 100 million people on the main island in Hawaii and you've got a serious problem. uh oh I think.wow
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May 30, 2011 3:07 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Boban1: you have no ideas about the real resources and how much free energy are available ,


True. Using technology available today we can sustain at least two to three times as many people food and resource wise.

That said, only if there is a cooperative effort and understanding between all peoples be they Muslims atheists Christians dictators, communist regimes, and just plain old ruthless rulers. In order to do this, those that won't get on board would have to be forced to come on board meaning war no matter how you look at it as the lack of resources and food will for sure bring it to many doorsteps.

Oh, and it is a self correcting problem should nothing be done. If people make war over resources, sooner or later enough people will die to make the available resources sufficient.

Gous!cheering
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May 30, 2011 3:09 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
ooby_dooby: They can marry each other, That should slow down their population growth.
laugh Problem is, Chinese men are already kidnapping women to be their "brides." Not to mention the potential for conflict....
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May 30, 2011 3:11 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
Vido1: People in China are not forced to abort they just simply do not get any support for the 2nd child. The system is a bit questionable, but it works in a certain way.

We do have already about 10 Billion people on this planet, we cannot feed that much. Only with gen-manipulated food, and the oceans will be empty in a few years!

Overpopulation is the main cause of all the problems, like global warming, CO2 problems, shrinking of resources, just to mention a few. People do live longer, and people who would have died 200 years ago (e,g, cancer patients, diabetes people ...) are all alive and still happy. We do not have wars anymore (I mean big once lol) and pests as we know from a few centuries ago are also are not happen (where millions of people have been wiped out) All thanks to medical progress we have managed to reverse evolution to a "surviving of the weakest". If you're not born with a handicap, then you're an outcast!

It is already 5 past 12 if man cannot find a way of reducing population, human life form will be extinct very soon and there will be no judgement day. The earth will still turning and other creatures will rise from the ruins we left behind
http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1R2PRFA_enUS430&biw=1419&bih=680&q=are%20chinese%20women%20forced%20to%20abort%3F&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw Oh no?
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May 30, 2011 3:12 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
Vido1: People in China are not forced to abort they just simply do not get any support for the 2nd child. The system is a bit questionable, but it works in a certain way.

We do have already about 10 Billion people on this planet, we cannot feed that much. Only with gen-manipulated food, and the oceans will be empty in a few years!

Overpopulation is the main cause of all the problems, like global warming, CO2 problems, shrinking of resources, just to mention a few. People do live longer, and people who would have died 200 years ago (e,g, cancer patients, diabetes people ...) are all alive and still happy. We do not have wars anymore (I mean big once lol) and pests as we know from a few centuries ago are also are not happen (where millions of people have been wiped out) All thanks to medical progress we have managed to reverse evolution to a "surviving of the weakest". If you're not born with a handicap, then you're an outcast!

It is already 5 past 12 if man cannot find a way of reducing population, human life form will be extinct very soon and there will be no judgement day. The earth will still turning and other creatures will rise from the ruins we left behind
Look it up-I think you'll find you are mistaken about that.
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May 30, 2011 4:18 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Global Warming (AGW) is the BIGGEST Ponzi-Scheme in History!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 30, 2011 4:32 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Anyone read about what's happening in Iceland and gobal warming?
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May 30, 2011 4:34 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Here's the link.
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May 30, 2011 9:18 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
TrueBlue1986: I believe nature should dictate who lives, just as it does with all life when it outgrows its means. If we allow man to govern this affair then how do we ensure the better elements remain?

Surely if we manage this then only the rich will survive, or we'll make it an equal affair - either way the survivors won't survive because of their merit. To do this would be actively working against evolution.


I'm with you. Nature will deal with it. We lose our humanity as soon as we lose our individual sovereignty.
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May 30, 2011 10:02 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
BebeII: Problem is, Chinese men are already kidnapping women to be their "brides." Not to mention the potential for conflict....

wow Really? uh oh
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May 30, 2011 10:09 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
Conrad73: Global Warming (AGW) is the BIGGEST Ponzi-Scheme in History!
The 2010's were the hottest decade in recorded history. The 1990's were the second hottest decade in recorded history. The 1980's were the third hottest decade in recorded history.
And you say global warming is a ponzi scheme? It's probably true that some people are making money off of global warming by hedging their investments and banking on what will be much more in demand in the future but that doesn't equal a ponzi scheme by any measure.
There was a show on National Geographic last night in which they said that there is a large quantity of CO Carbon Monoxide locked up the the Arctic permafrost. CO is 30X more powerful a greenhouse gas than CO2. If the warming Earth melts this permafrost the CO will be released and we can all kiss our collective asses goodbye. With the loss of the Arctic ice pack the Earth will reflect much less of the Suns heat into space and the darker oceans and exposed land mass will absorb more of the Suns energy heating up the planet even faster.
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May 30, 2011 10:16 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
ooby_dooby: The 2010's were the hottest decade in recorded history. The 1990's were the second hottest decade in recorded history. The 1980's were the third hottest decade in recorded history.
And you say global warming is a ponzi scheme? It's probably true that some people are making money off of global warming by hedging their investments and banking on what will be much more in demand in the future but that doesn't equal a ponzi scheme by any measure.
There was a show on National Geographic last night in which they said that there is a large quantity of CO Carbon Monoxide locked up the the Arctic permafrost. CO is 30X more powerful a greenhouse gas than CO2. If the warming Earth melts this permafrost the CO will be released and we can all kiss our collective asses goodbye. With the loss of the Arctic ice pack the Earth will reflect much less of the Suns heat into space and the darker oceans and exposed land mass will absorb more of the Suns energy heating up the planet even faster.
rolling on the floor laughing On the Tarmac of Airstrips!
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May 30, 2011 10:38 AM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ooby_dooby: The 2010's were the hottest decade in recorded history. The 1990's were the second hottest decade in recorded history. The 1980's were the third hottest decade in recorded history.
And you say global warming is a ponzi scheme? It's probably true that some people are making money off of global warming by hedging their investments and banking on what will be much more in demand in the future but that doesn't equal a ponzi scheme by any measure.
There was a show on National Geographic last night in which they said that there is a large quantity of CO Carbon Monoxide locked up the the Arctic permafrost. CO is 30X more powerful a greenhouse gas than CO2. If the warming Earth melts this permafrost the CO will be released and we can all kiss our collective asses goodbye. With the loss of the Arctic ice pack the Earth will reflect much less of the Suns heat into space and the darker oceans and exposed land mass will absorb more of the Suns energy heating up the planet even faster.

hahaha? Maybe you could study a bit of environmental science before making such statements. With all respect, this reaction makes no sense.
The best way to cool the planet is not solved by anything to do with the Arctic Ice Pac but by putting more fugitive particulate (dust n such) into the atmosphere (like volcanos do) where it can reflect the sun's rays back into space. One pollution can abate another in this case. laugh
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May 30, 2011 12:00 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Rumyet: i agree that it would be difficult to controll it.but still there must be some ways.and the worse thing is rich and educated families (like europeans)normally dont have many kids.but if u take poor countries where dont have even is not minimum living standarts ppl have many children and i m sorry for those children who dont have even clean water to drink .


It isn't very nice. But should we say halve the population of the Earth through various methods? Or let nature take its course?

All life comes up against this same problem, and in life the most adaptable and the fittest survive. Why on Earth would we wish to change this? Why would we let some of the elites decide which half dies? When if we leave it as a natural struggle then the surviving half is the product of evolution, the meritable half, the kind of people that would then go on to achieve far more.
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May 30, 2011 2:48 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
galrads: hahaha? Maybe you could study a bit of environmental science before making such statements. With all respect, this reaction makes no sense.
The best way to cool the planet is not solved by anything to do with the Arctic Ice Pac but by putting more fugitive particulate (dust n such) into the atmosphere (like volcanos do) where it can reflect the sun's rays back into space. One pollution can abate another in this case.
As a retired environmentalist I'm somewhat surprised you apparently aren't familiar with Terrestrial Albedo.
"Albedos of typical materials in visible light range from up to 0.9 for fresh snow, to about 0.04 for charcoal, one of the darkest substances. Deeply shadowed cavities can achieve an effective albedo approaching the zero of a black body. When seen from a distance, the ocean surface has a low albedo, as do most forests, while desert areas have some of the highest albedos among landforms. Most land areas are in an albedo range of 0.1 to 0.4. The average albedo of the Earth is about 0.3. This is far higher than for the ocean primarily because of the contribution of clouds.
Human activities have changed the albedo (via forest clearance and farming, for example) of various areas around the globe. However, quantification of this effect on the global scale is difficult.

The classic example of albedo effect is the snow-temperature feedback. If a snow-covered area warms and the snow melts, the albedo decreases, more sunlight is absorbed, and the temperature tends to increase. The converse is true: if snow forms, a cooling cycle happens. The intensity of the albedo effect depends on the size of the change in albedo and the amount of insolation; for this reason it can be potentially very large in the tropics.

With all due respect maybe you need to go back to school.
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May 30, 2011 3:47 PM CST Do u think over population is as dangerous as global warming?
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