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Jun 1, 2011 11:35 AM CST America the Free????
BB_snickers: He didn't attack anyone, he proffered an example of misreading a situation. Something you have just done now.

I swear reading comprehension here is at an all time low, seconded only by out of context posts.

This is what he said:
It's not even crap, let alone an attack, it's just an example (in context of the discussion) that you took as an attack.
Misreading a Situation,which already prior to its occurrence had been declared illegal by a Court!
Plus Reports to the effect of Mobs just like them hitting Stores for merchandise in the thousands!
I'll soon have to bestow my Special Award to you!
But on the whole I am not surprised!
People are rarely able to disguise their Style,no matter how fancy the Handle!
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Jun 1, 2011 11:36 AM CST America the Free????
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: http://winace.courageunfettered.com/pics/o_logic.jpg

Playing the same game my friend but BB might say it is not.

Have a good time all!
I should do something more productive, I will try!

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Jun 1, 2011 11:41 AM CST America the Free????
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
anonymous1: If the voters, and citizens of the USA are not the arbiters of what is legal, and what's not..... who is?


They are however, not in mob form and certainly not by breaking the law and then causing as disturbance and interfering with law authorities in the conduct of their duties.

anonymous1: When our public servants try to maintain power by silencing our opposition to their abuses, they are guilty of crimes, and should be tried in a court of law, and judged by a jury of (citizens) their peers.


Can you cite an instance where this has occurred?

anonymous1: I didn't start this thread; but I have a feeling the person who did, believes those court rulings to be unjust, and unconstitutional...


Actually from reading the OP, he had no clue there was a law stating this was illegal and that the group was protestihng without a permit.

anonymous1: I believe them to be unjust, and only a way to circumvent freedom of speech.... after all, the officer complained about them demonstrating, BEFORE he mentioned that they were dancing.


Both actions were illegal as they had no permit.

It hardly seems like dancing could be considered an invalid form of "Freedom of Speech," when the Boston Tea Party is considered a patriotic act.

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Certainly I would agree and, if enough people do then this would become a major issue for their legislators to address. Not a mob that decides they feel it is not right.
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Jun 1, 2011 11:54 AM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
Albertaghost:
Actually from reading the OP, he had no clue there was a law stating this was illegal and that the group was protestihng without a permit.


Both actions were illegal as they had no permit.






Have you ever seen a copy of the permit that was issued for the Boston Tea Party?



Making a law that forces people to obtain a permit to protest, or demonstrate, is unconstitutional, and illegal; it abridges the right of the people to have "Freedom of Speech," and to "Peaceably assemble, and petition the government for a redress of grievances."



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.





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Jun 1, 2011 11:56 AM CST America the Free????
Bane6
Bane6Bane6Martins Ferry, Ohio USA512 Posts
anonymous1: If somebody is dancing, you say, It could be a diversion for thieves, and pickpockets.When I point out your unique style of beard could be just as much a diversion for thieves... you talk about, "You guys."All I did was apply your logic, to your beard..


And all a judge did was rule on the dancing inside of the memorial, last I checked the beard hasn't been ruled on in court...

As far as the video goes, they were warned repeatedly that they couldn't dance, protest, "In" the hall to take it outside. Looked to me like the protester's got what they deserved.
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Jun 1, 2011 12:04 PM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
Bane6: And all a judge did was rule on the dancing inside of the memorial, last I checked the beard hasn't been ruled on in court...






A proposed ban on religious symbols in French state schools could include a ban on beards, according to the French education minister.
Luc Ferry said the law, which will be debated in parliament next month, could ban headscarves, bandannas and beards if they are considered a sign of faith.





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Jun 1, 2011 12:20 PM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
anonymous1: A proposed ban on religious symbols in French state schools could include a ban on beards, according to the French education minister.
Luc Ferry said the law, which will be debated in parliament next month, could ban headscarves, bandannas and beards if they are considered a sign of faith.


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History of Beards

History of Beards ... Laws were then passed for all beards removed and only philosophers ...





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Jun 1, 2011 12:42 PM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
Bane6: And all a judge did was rule on the dancing inside of the memorial, last I checked the beard hasn't been ruled on in court...








There is a petition online right now to, Re-Instate The Beard Tax...


Petition to Re-Instate The Beard Tax











Beard Tax

The beard tax is the best known of a series of measures enacted by Tsar Peter I to transform and regulate the appearance of his subjects. As early as 1698 the tsar ordered many of his prominent courtiers to shave their beards, and in 1699 he began to mandate the wearing of European fashions at court functions. In subsequent years a series of regulations ordered various groups to adopt German (i.e., European) dress. In 1705 decrees were issued prohibiting the buying, selling, and wearing of Russian dress by courtiers, state servitors, and townspeople. In the same year the wearing of beards, which was favored by Orthodox doctrine, was prohibited and the beard tax was instituted. With the exception of the Orthodox clergy, anyone who wanted to wear a beard was ordered to pay a special tax and obtain a token (znak) from government officials.

Read more:



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Jun 1, 2011 1:25 PM CST America the Free????
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
anonymous1:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



You should know better than to defend the constitution around here. much less tell them what it says, scold laugh


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Jun 1, 2011 1:33 PM CST America the Free????
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
anonymous1: A proposed ban on religious symbols in French state schools could include a ban on beards, according to the French education minister.
Luc Ferry said the law, which will be debated in parliament next month, could ban headscarves, bandannas and beards if they are considered a sign of faith.


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I was beginning to wonder how long it would be that we move from the practical to the ridiculous...beards as "a sign of faith."rolling on the floor laughing
The jails and courts will be crowded with the (tens?) thousands of men wearing beards...including all of 'les clochards'(hobos) that sleep under the bridges, the vagabonds that roam the countryside, the musicians, especially the Jazz and Classical players; the list could be endless...forget the tens of thousands, let's go for the millions!rolling on the floor laughing
Then we must not forget that many will have to be hired by the Govt. to question all those detained for having beards, and the ones who will, naturally, refuse to shave, if they indeed are men "of faith" and if so, which faith(as if we all don't know; just more State sanctioned insulting discrimination against Muslims. Which makes the positions of the Rabbinical Jews and all the Rabbis a very volatile problem that could have a nasty impact on this moronic comedy. No one gets paid, it seems, to think things through.
I wonder what will be chosen next...perhaps the wearing of a crucifix around one's neck; another insult to the spirit of egalitarian France; turbans that the Sikhs wear, perhaps 'deadlocks' worn by the Rastas...or even smoking some ganja weed as that is alleged to be an 'article of faith' by the Rastafarians...laugh Hey, how about those diapers that Hindu men wear...squads of Gendarmes will pounce on any poor Hindu this summer merely going to his temple; hell, the streets of Paris will be in chaos with all the hordes of Gendarmes chasing after people for having any type of visible article "considered a sign of faith"...
Could there be something that people in France can wear or carry that could be considered an article of no faith?? And of so, when would enough people wearing 'it' then become an article of faith in having no faith?????? If one million French people, including tourists, of course, wore something as a sign of having no faith, they would be saying that they do, in fact, have faith in their not having faith so as to be arrested or fined for having...ahhhh, don;t you just love political and legal logic...makes our lives so much more 'entertaining'...rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 1, 2011 1:38 PM CST America the Free????
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
anonymous1: The Bush family is one of over 20 American presidents, which are related to the British Royal family.

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I'm not surprised there wasn't a comment on this Anon.


the wiki link




Man those Edwards had deep lizard loins. laugh
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Jun 1, 2011 1:41 PM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
solitare:
I wonder what will be chosen next...perhaps the wearing of a crucifix around one's neck;...





A school told a child to remove a Christian cross she was wearing even though it lets Sikh children wear bangles as part of their religion.
Lauren Grimshaw-Brown was told to take off a necklace with a cross on it because of health and safety fears.


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Jun 1, 2011 1:45 PM CST America the Free????
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Albertaghost: No taxation without representation ring a bell? That was the main issue there and here, these people are represented at various levels so they don't have to rebel against an occupying power.



Read the constitution. It doesn't say representatives, it says "the people" have rights.

You know why it doesn't say 'representatives have rights'. Because representatives are the occupying power as you put it..


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Jun 1, 2011 1:53 PM CST America the Free????
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
BB_snickers: Read the constitution. It doesn't say representatives, it says "the people" have rights.

You know why it doesn't say 'representatives have rights'. Because representatives are the occupying power as you put it.. go back to sleep



Ever get the feeling sometimes that one is being interigated.laugh

I told you about the nay sayers now. grin
I felt that way the other day when I brought up the pilot who flew the boeing.
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Jun 1, 2011 1:55 PM CST America the Free????
BB_snickers: Read the constitution. It doesn't say representatives, it says "the people" have rights.

You know why it doesn't say 'representatives have rights'. Because representatives are the occupying power as you put it.. go back to sleep
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,


Actually it can be found in The Declaration Of Independence!
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Jun 1, 2011 1:56 PM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
Albertaghost: No taxation without representation ring a bell? That was the main issue there and here, these people are represented at various levels so they don't have to rebel against an occupying power.







If they felt like they were being represented... they would not be willing to go to jail to say they weren't.



Making a law that forces people to obtain a permit to protest, or demonstrate, is unconstitutional, and illegal; it abridges the right of the people to have "Freedom of Speech," and to "Peaceably assemble, and petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.






Thank you for making it clear that you are defending the actions of an "Occupying Force."




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Jun 1, 2011 1:57 PM CST America the Free????
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
BB_snickers: Read the constitution. It doesn't say representatives, it says "the people" have rights.


Better read article one in which the constitution describes the congress, executive and the legislative body and how they are placed in the position to run the country. You know, the people that make laws you don't like.

It also describes what you can do when there is a law you don't like so that you don't have to resort to breaking numerous laws in order to attract attention to yourself.

BB_snickers: You know why it doesn't say 'representatives have rights'. Because representatives are the occupying power as you put it.. go back to sleep


Better have a look at article one as you're really coming off as uninformed here.professor

Oh, and you compared the Boston tea Party to the dancers, ludicrous. As I said, the British were taxing the hell out of the US people without giving them a vote. The dancers all have votes. All they have to do is to apply them properly.professor
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Jun 1, 2011 1:59 PM CST America the Free????
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Ccincy: Ever get the feeling sometimes that one is being interigated.

I told you about the nay sayers now.
I felt that way the other day when I brought up the pilot who flew the boeing.



laugh Yep it's the coming wave of godocracy. I prefer to call them an 'assembly' of mini-me's. I guess they have rights too though. And if you use the constitution to show them how wrong they are they'll call you anti american. Go figure. wave
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Jun 1, 2011 2:01 PM CST America the Free????
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
anonymous1: If they felt like they were being represented... they would not be willing to go to jail to say they weren't.


Can you now back this statement up with the writs they have mkade and the names of congressional leaders they have contacted along with meetings they have conducted with same or are you just shooting blind here?


anonymous1: Making a law that forces people to obtain a permit to protest, or demonstrate, is unconstitutional, and illegal; it abridges the right of the people to have "Freedom of Speech," and to "Peaceably assemble, and petition the government for a redress of grievances."


Supreme court has allowed it. You know the Supreme Court don't you?


Thank you for making it clear that you are defending the actions of an "Occupying Force."

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You quote the constitution and now say it is void. make up your mind for crying out loud.rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 1, 2011 2:01 PM CST America the Free????
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
anonymous1:
Thank you for making it clear that you are defending the actions of an "Occupying Force."





I made a mistake.


Thank you for making it clear, you are defending the actions of an "Occupying Power."



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