What is your opinion on Divorce Lawyers. (44)
I say get the best one you can because if you dont he will....
dont get even
get everything!!!!
ivana trump.
dont get even
get everything!!!!
ivana trump.
kizzy27: I say get the best one you can because if you dont he will....
dont get even
get everything!!!!
ivana trump.
dont get even
get everything!!!!
ivana trump.
So right.
Martia: I for one think they are necessary evil and it has to be one of the most maligned profession out there.
My daughter had the misfortune to get one of the ruthless ones on both sides, it left her scarred for life plus myself on anti depressants,and my husband to suffer a stroke which I believe led to his brain tumor which took his life.
She has suffered through a tragic accident which has left her disabled,then watch her husband play up after that and leave her at 7 months pregnant.
But that was nothing compared to the hell we went through for 8 long years in and out of the family courts.And those dreaded lawyers letters in between, those documents need a wheelie cart just to carry them...No Kidding.
The family courts are a law unto themselves as nobody is allowed to criticize them in the press so even though there is a string of suicides, child murders and broken hearts nothing can be done.
Before all this we were a very happy close family who had very successful training stables my daughter was a top professional jockey life was fantastic.
We all dissapered down that black hole of hell to come out the other end entirely different individuals.But it took the Lawyers to do that to all of us, our love for each other was seeing us through before that.
This is JMO and my story I am interested to hear yours if not I fully understand.
My daughter had the misfortune to get one of the ruthless ones on both sides, it left her scarred for life plus myself on anti depressants,and my husband to suffer a stroke which I believe led to his brain tumor which took his life.
She has suffered through a tragic accident which has left her disabled,then watch her husband play up after that and leave her at 7 months pregnant.
But that was nothing compared to the hell we went through for 8 long years in and out of the family courts.And those dreaded lawyers letters in between, those documents need a wheelie cart just to carry them...No Kidding.
The family courts are a law unto themselves as nobody is allowed to criticize them in the press so even though there is a string of suicides, child murders and broken hearts nothing can be done.
Before all this we were a very happy close family who had very successful training stables my daughter was a top professional jockey life was fantastic.
We all dissapered down that black hole of hell to come out the other end entirely different individuals.But it took the Lawyers to do that to all of us, our love for each other was seeing us through before that.
This is JMO and my story I am interested to hear yours if not I fully understand.
I am very sorry to hear about your daughter and husband yeah the bloody laywers milk us for what they can get which is the reason I settled out of court with my ex. I didn't get as much as I should have but who cares when you know the laywers are going to get a lot of the money anyhow and it was way less stressful. Plus was able to move on quicker with my life PRICELESS!
kizzy27: I say get the best one you can because if you dont he will....
dont get even
get everything!!!!
ivana trump.
dont get even
get everything!!!!
ivana trump.
Fairness is dead...
I never went to court, we were always able to sort out everything without involving lawyers.
Thanks for answering this thread guys.My partner is now going through property settlement right now and his lawyer asks for 2 or thou at a time now he wants another 5 thou to be put into trust to carry on.
This is what they do and it will never end.He asked if a meeting would be a good idea to just talk it out but the Soliciter said no way yet.
There are no children involved it just a straight out percentige ...
The trouble is by the time they end up in court there will not be any money left the lawyers would get it all for their fee's he only earns a Schoolteachers wage so he will have to take out a loan.
Its so very hard as everything is being done in Canberra but now he lives in Vic with me.He is a very gentle kind man and through no fault of his own his marriage is over. I met him when he had been separated for 12 months.He was a bit of a mess when I met him but he is great now I am so very lucky.
I dont know if it would be a good idea for him to get a Solictor closer to home as it is really getting him down.
What to do..... I think it would be better if he got a solicitor closer to home as at least he could talk to him face to face.
What are your idea's about that.If yes! male or female solicitor.
This is what they do and it will never end.He asked if a meeting would be a good idea to just talk it out but the Soliciter said no way yet.
There are no children involved it just a straight out percentige ...
The trouble is by the time they end up in court there will not be any money left the lawyers would get it all for their fee's he only earns a Schoolteachers wage so he will have to take out a loan.
Its so very hard as everything is being done in Canberra but now he lives in Vic with me.He is a very gentle kind man and through no fault of his own his marriage is over. I met him when he had been separated for 12 months.He was a bit of a mess when I met him but he is great now I am so very lucky.
I dont know if it would be a good idea for him to get a Solictor closer to home as it is really getting him down.
What to do..... I think it would be better if he got a solicitor closer to home as at least he could talk to him face to face.
What are your idea's about that.If yes! male or female solicitor.
Martia: Thanks for answering this thread guys.My partner is now going through property settlement right now and his lawyer asks for 2 or thou at a time now he wants another 5 thou to be put into trust to carry on.
This is what they do and it will never end.He asked if a meeting would be a good idea to just talk it out but the Soliciter said no way yet.
There are no children involved it just a straight out percentige ...
The trouble is by the time they end up in court there will not be any money left the lawyers would get it all for their fee's he only earns a Schoolteachers wage so he will have to take out a loan.
Its so very hard as everything is being done in Canberra but now he lives in Vic with me.He is a very gentle kind man and through no fault of his own his marriage is over. I met him when he had been separated for 12 months.He was a bit of a mess when I met him but he is great now I am so very lucky.
I dont know if it would be a good idea for him to get a Solictor closer to home as it is really getting him down.
What to do..... I think it would be better if he got a solicitor closer to home as at least he could talk to him face to face.
What are your idea's about that.If yes! male or female solicitor.
This is what they do and it will never end.He asked if a meeting would be a good idea to just talk it out but the Soliciter said no way yet.
There are no children involved it just a straight out percentige ...
The trouble is by the time they end up in court there will not be any money left the lawyers would get it all for their fee's he only earns a Schoolteachers wage so he will have to take out a loan.
Its so very hard as everything is being done in Canberra but now he lives in Vic with me.He is a very gentle kind man and through no fault of his own his marriage is over. I met him when he had been separated for 12 months.He was a bit of a mess when I met him but he is great now I am so very lucky.
I dont know if it would be a good idea for him to get a Solictor closer to home as it is really getting him down.
What to do..... I think it would be better if he got a solicitor closer to home as at least he could talk to him face to face.
What are your idea's about that.If yes! male or female solicitor.
Years ago I took a builder to the building tribunal. The mediator gave me some good advice. He said " Don't think about what you want out of this, think about what you can live with" I was not impressed with him at the time. But I used this principal during my property settlement.
Most property settlement is not about the property it's about controll. The person putting up the biggest fight has lost their control on you, so this is a way of keeping it. It doesn't matter what you want, they will say no just to keep the control.
I can only speak for myself, but after 2 yrs of battle, I took alot less than I was entitled too. I had a lawyer draw up settlement papers, and did not go to court. I can't remember what it cost, but they charge you for each phone call, visit, letter etc.
My advice would be have a lawyer draw up the papers asking for more than you want. Then take what you can live with. For me it was worth taking less and having a happy, healthy life.
Good Luck
Martia: I for one think they are necessary evil and it has to be one of the most maligned profession out there.
My daughter had the misfortune to get one of the ruthless ones on both sides, it left her scarred for life plus myself on anti depressants,and my husband to suffer a stroke which I believe led to his brain tumor which took his life.
She has suffered through a tragic accident which has left her disabled,then watch her husband play up after that and leave her at 7 months pregnant.
But that was nothing compared to the hell we went through for 8 long years in and out of the family courts.And those dreaded lawyers letters in between, those documents need a wheelie cart just to carry them...No Kidding.
The family courts are a law unto themselves as nobody is allowed to criticize them in the press so even though there is a string of suicides, child murders and broken hearts nothing can be done.
Before all this we were a very happy close family who had very successful training stables my daughter was a top professional jockey life was fantastic.
We all dissapered down that black hole of hell to come out the other end entirely different individuals.But it took the Lawyers to do that to all of us, our love for each other was seeing us through before that.
This is JMO and my story I am interested to hear yours if not I fully understand.
My daughter had the misfortune to get one of the ruthless ones on both sides, it left her scarred for life plus myself on anti depressants,and my husband to suffer a stroke which I believe led to his brain tumor which took his life.
She has suffered through a tragic accident which has left her disabled,then watch her husband play up after that and leave her at 7 months pregnant.
But that was nothing compared to the hell we went through for 8 long years in and out of the family courts.And those dreaded lawyers letters in between, those documents need a wheelie cart just to carry them...No Kidding.
The family courts are a law unto themselves as nobody is allowed to criticize them in the press so even though there is a string of suicides, child murders and broken hearts nothing can be done.
Before all this we were a very happy close family who had very successful training stables my daughter was a top professional jockey life was fantastic.
We all dissapered down that black hole of hell to come out the other end entirely different individuals.But it took the Lawyers to do that to all of us, our love for each other was seeing us through before that.
This is JMO and my story I am interested to hear yours if not I fully understand.
Sorry to hear you all went through such trauma. Way too common, unfortunately.
Most divorce lawyers I've come across here are simply glorified clerks. In my own case, I was working full time in a professional capacity, plus raise a young school age son, I had to hand over so much trust to the lawyers concerned. Only to find a couple were almost socialising with my ex, all chummy sounding, over the 'phone! ....Until I had a friend of mine who was an ex-barrister, help me put my case together, then I ditched the lawyers and represented myself. I also got separate representation for my son who by then was 9yrs old. By that time, it wasn't over money, which he tried to get out of me, such as trying to get the house sold that I bought with my money pre-marriage assets...but over custody and access(he'd moved interstate).
Within months, my ex had hung himself(no, not literally!).
I had him all stitched up so that he could no longer make 'frivolous and vexatious' applications under section 118A of the Family Law Act. Yet no lawyer had wanted to do that for me, saying it couldn't be done. It could be done, and I did it.
So I always suggest to people to think seriously about representing yourself. If you can think logically, do some research, put an argument together and stay in control in front of a magistrate, you have half a chance of getting justice done. Copies of the Family Law Act are available and you can get a free one by contacting your local MP. Scour it and learn it inside out.
Btw, he is now a lawyer himself. On occasion, when we have reason to speak, he likes to reminisce and makes light of it. I can never quite share in the joke.
from what you've written M, I cant see that it would be anything more than a 50/50 split.
My experience with property settlement is that you work out what you will settle for... the minimum, and be prepared to settle for that just to get the a/hole out of your life.
Make an offer, one that is completely fair and resonable, give a cut off ... and if the other party refuses, then its off to court. The cost comes, in my opinion, when lawyers start talking and haggling, and freking around with both parties.
If your man is that way inclined, he can always personally call her lawyer a few times a week, ask innane questions, knowing that she is coping a $50/phone call bill for his amusement. I did it... it was fun, and I will always recall with the fondest of memories the day my ex realised what I'd been doing and rang me all flustered and raging... I of course laughed happily.
I told my lawyer not to waste my money, and unless they had a decent offer he wasnt to contact me, or waste his time and my money talking to them.
My experience with property settlement is that you work out what you will settle for... the minimum, and be prepared to settle for that just to get the a/hole out of your life.
Make an offer, one that is completely fair and resonable, give a cut off ... and if the other party refuses, then its off to court. The cost comes, in my opinion, when lawyers start talking and haggling, and freking around with both parties.
If your man is that way inclined, he can always personally call her lawyer a few times a week, ask innane questions, knowing that she is coping a $50/phone call bill for his amusement. I did it... it was fun, and I will always recall with the fondest of memories the day my ex realised what I'd been doing and rang me all flustered and raging... I of course laughed happily.
I told my lawyer not to waste my money, and unless they had a decent offer he wasnt to contact me, or waste his time and my money talking to them.
Shell225: from what you've written M, I cant see that it would be anything more than a 50/50 split.
My experience with property settlement is that you work out what you will settle for... the minimum, and be prepared to settle for that just to get the a/hole out of your life.
Make an offer, one that is completely fair and resonable, give a cut off ... and if the other party refuses, then its off to court. The cost comes, in my opinion, when lawyers start talking and haggling, and freking around with both parties.
If your man is that way inclined, he can always personally call her lawyer a few times a week, ask innane questions, knowing that she is coping a $50/phone call bill for his amusement. I did it... it was fun, and I will always recall with the fondest of memories the day my ex realised what I'd been doing and rang me all flustered and raging... I of course laughed happily.
I told my lawyer not to waste my money, and unless they had a decent offer he wasnt to contact me, or waste his time and my money talking to them.
My experience with property settlement is that you work out what you will settle for... the minimum, and be prepared to settle for that just to get the a/hole out of your life.
Make an offer, one that is completely fair and resonable, give a cut off ... and if the other party refuses, then its off to court. The cost comes, in my opinion, when lawyers start talking and haggling, and freking around with both parties.
If your man is that way inclined, he can always personally call her lawyer a few times a week, ask innane questions, knowing that she is coping a $50/phone call bill for his amusement. I did it... it was fun, and I will always recall with the fondest of memories the day my ex realised what I'd been doing and rang me all flustered and raging... I of course laughed happily.
I told my lawyer not to waste my money, and unless they had a decent offer he wasnt to contact me, or waste his time and my money talking to them.
my sister went 50/50, which was fair, but if children are involved a lot of women go the 70/30 way, which she could have done, and the man pays child support on top,
yes it can work the other way round as well
Shell225: from what you've written M, I cant see that it would be anything more than a 50/50 split.
My experience with property settlement is that you work out what you will settle for... the minimum, and be prepared to settle for that just to get the a/hole out of your life.
Make an offer, one that is completely fair and resonable, give a cut off ... and if the other party refuses, then its off to court. The cost comes, in my opinion, when lawyers start talking and haggling, and freking around with both parties.
If your man is that way inclined, he can always personally call her lawyer a few times a week, ask innane questions, knowing that she is coping a $50/phone call bill for his amusement. I did it... it was fun, and I will always recall with the fondest of memories the day my ex realised what I'd been doing and rang me all flustered and raging... I of course laughed happily.
I told my lawyer not to waste my money, and unless they had a decent offer he wasnt to contact me, or waste his time and my money talking to them.
My experience with property settlement is that you work out what you will settle for... the minimum, and be prepared to settle for that just to get the a/hole out of your life.
Make an offer, one that is completely fair and resonable, give a cut off ... and if the other party refuses, then its off to court. The cost comes, in my opinion, when lawyers start talking and haggling, and freking around with both parties.
If your man is that way inclined, he can always personally call her lawyer a few times a week, ask innane questions, knowing that she is coping a $50/phone call bill for his amusement. I did it... it was fun, and I will always recall with the fondest of memories the day my ex realised what I'd been doing and rang me all flustered and raging... I of course laughed happily.
I told my lawyer not to waste my money, and unless they had a decent offer he wasnt to contact me, or waste his time and my money talking to them.
Can you call up his lawyer ????? errrr yes you would
Shell
What did your own Lawyer say. bluejay2011: Years ago I took a builder to the building tribunal. The mediator gave me some good advice. He said " Don't think about what you want out of this, think about what you can live with" I was not impressed with him at the time. But I used this principal during my property settlement.
Most property settlement is not about the property it's about controll. The person putting up the biggest fight has lost their control on you, so this is a way of keeping it. It doesn't matter what you want, they will say no just to keep the control.
I can only speak for myself, but after 2 yrs of battle, I took alot less than I was entitled too. I had a lawyer draw up settlement papers, and did not go to court. I can't remember what it cost, but they charge you for each phone call, visit, letter etc.
My advice would be have a lawyer draw up the papers asking for more than you want. Then take what you can live with. For me it was worth taking less and having a happy, healthy life.
Good Luck
Most property settlement is not about the property it's about controll. The person putting up the biggest fight has lost their control on you, so this is a way of keeping it. It doesn't matter what you want, they will say no just to keep the control.
I can only speak for myself, but after 2 yrs of battle, I took alot less than I was entitled too. I had a lawyer draw up settlement papers, and did not go to court. I can't remember what it cost, but they charge you for each phone call, visit, letter etc.
My advice would be have a lawyer draw up the papers asking for more than you want. Then take what you can live with. For me it was worth taking less and having a happy, healthy life.
Good Luck
I know the bloody cost
my daughters Lawyer not only sent her the legal stuff by mail he also tried to send by email as well so he could charge double.
I think the lawyers are fleecing the Families of the Commonwealth of Australia full stop...
You all just keep listening to the ABC, nothing else i can say
You all just keep listening to the ABC, nothing else i can say
robplum: I think the lawyers are fleecing the Families of the Commonwealth of Australia full stop...
You all just keep listening to the ABC, nothing else i can say
You all just keep listening to the ABC, nothing else i can say
lawters are only interested in money, they even charge you for walking to the post box to post a letter,
every sheet of paper
every phone call to you or to them
reading the material given to them
every postage stamp
and if you object you have to hire a new one to fight for you
its a pity we cant do the same to them,
what a howl they would make
keep listening to ABC
even the family court judges are lawyers, and in my opinion they are every bit as bad as the lawyers.
Our politicians make the laws which are supposed to be consistent with our constitution, and not something else
even the family court judges are lawyers, and in my opinion they are every bit as bad as the lawyers.
Our politicians make the laws which are supposed to be consistent with our constitution, and not something else
Martia: Can you call up his lawyer ????? errrr yes you would
Shell What did your own Lawyer say.
Shell What did your own Lawyer say.
yep.... it goes like this.. your lawyer sends you a copy of a letter from his lawyer asking for income or assests info for example...
Soooo you call HIS lawyer and say thanks for the letter and that you'll get onto that (KA-CHING $50)
Then a couple of days later you call his lawyer and say, Im just doing up those figures and I was wondering if ..... (insert innane question here) (KA-CHING $50)
Then of course it might take you a few days extra to get all that info... so you politely give his lawyer a call and explain that (KA-CHING$50)
So you've spent a week and any time your bored you've called his lawyer
score is Your bill NIL ... his bill $150....
as I said its the best fun, and my lawyer thought it was hysterical
Martia: Gosh is that all it was.....that must have been a long time ago.I would think the cheapest anyone would get away with nowadays would be 10 thousand
with no court appearance.
with no court appearance.
I have known several friends whose lawyers' expenses amounted to around $50,000. That seem s average when you cop one party who decides to drag it out...just because they can. So sad and stupid. All that wasted energy, and paying for their lawyers' lavish overseas holidays or new merc.!!!
Hey Martia, I used to live in Benalla 
small world eh?? I used the ones on the corner nr the bridge, young blonde female lawyer, ?Cornelia ?Cordelia - she was Dutch I think(about 4 years ago) anyway, she was fast & efficient and NICE!
However, it was pretty much pre-settled between ex & I already, not much to do,so it might be different for your partner.
But yes, go local, I knew others who dealt with that firm (H D & C) with no worries.
small world eh?? I used the ones on the corner nr the bridge, young blonde female lawyer, ?Cornelia ?Cordelia - she was Dutch I think(about 4 years ago) anyway, she was fast & efficient and NICE! However, it was pretty much pre-settled between ex & I already, not much to do,so it might be different for your partner.
But yes, go local, I knew others who dealt with that firm (H D & C) with no worries.
Martia: Gosh is that all it was.....that must have been a long time ago.I would think the cheapest anyone would get away with nowadays would be 10 thousand
with no court appearance.
with no court appearance.
I just realised you are in Benalla...I'd forgotten.
Home of my ex. If you don't find someone soon, I could put you in touch with my ex, who now has his own law firm in Benalla
venere08: I just realised you are in Benalla...I'd forgotten.
Home of my ex. If you don't find someone soon, I could put you in touch with my ex, who now has his own law firm in Benalla
Gee, sounds like you must ave got all your proceedings and settlements for free.Home of my ex. If you don't find someone soon, I could put you in touch with my ex, who now has his own law firm in Benalla
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My daughter had the misfortune to get one of the ruthless ones on both sides, it left her scarred for life plus myself on anti depressants,and my husband to suffer a stroke which I believe led to his brain tumor which took his life.
She has suffered through a tragic accident which has left her disabled,then watch her husband play up after that and leave her at 7 months pregnant.
But that was nothing compared to the hell we went through for 8 long years in and out of the family courts.And those dreaded lawyers letters in between, those documents need a wheelie cart just to carry them...No Kidding.
The family courts are a law unto themselves as nobody is allowed to criticize them in the press so even though there is a string of suicides, child murders and broken hearts nothing can be done.
Before all this we were a very happy close family who had very successful training stables my daughter was a top professional jockey life was fantastic.
We all dissapered down that black hole of hell to come out the other end entirely different individuals.But it took the Lawyers to do that to all of us, our love for each other was seeing us through before that.
This is JMO and my story I am interested to hear yours if not I fully understand.