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Sep 8, 2011 7:42 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Iliah
IliahIliahRoxas, Western Visayas Philippines17 Threads 84 Posts
sssshhh!....

secrets...

would you rather not know truths that might hurt you?

or would you like to know and hurt but know anyway?

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Sep 8, 2011 8:29 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Iliah
IliahIliahRoxas, Western Visayas Philippines17 Threads 84 Posts
Thank you.
well, I know someone who thinks she's honest because she'd tell you what you'd wanna know..but the other facts of it...she won't tell you..because you didn't ask for them..which she'd actually maliciously hide..because if you'd find out about it, you won't like her anymore.

Is keeping secrets like this also lying? because, red, blue, yellow, or white lies, they're still lies, arent they?
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Sep 8, 2011 8:30 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Iliah
IliahIliahRoxas, Western Visayas Philippines17 Threads 84 Posts
Thank you.
well, I know someone who thinks she's honest because she'd tell you what you'd wanna know..but the other facts of it...she won't tell you..because you didn't ask for them..which she'd actually maliciously hide..because if you'd find out about it, you won't like her anymore.

Is keeping secrets like this also lying? because, red, blue, yellow, or white lies, they're still lies, arent they?
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Sep 8, 2011 8:30 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Iliah
IliahIliahRoxas, Western Visayas Philippines17 Threads 84 Posts
Thank you.
well, I know someone who thinks she's honest because she'd tell you what you'd wanna know..but the other facts of it...she won't tell you..because you didn't ask for them..which she'd actually maliciously hide..because if you'd find out about it, you won't like her anymore.

Is keeping secrets like this also lying? because, red, blue, yellow, or white lies, they're still lies, arent they?
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Sep 8, 2011 8:58 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Iliah: Thank you.
well, I know someone who thinks she's honest because she'd tell you what you'd wanna know..but the other facts of it...she won't tell you..because you didn't ask for them..which she'd actually maliciously hide..because if you'd find out about it, you won't like her anymore.

Is keeping secrets like this also lying? because, red, blue, yellow, or white lies, they're still lies, arent they?
No, IMO it is not lying, because lying is an intentional act. It's more a case of omission. You can't be guilty of not answering a question that isn't asked.

There is an old saying "Don't ask a question if you may not be able to handle the answer." There is another old saying used by lawyers, "Never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to."

Now, about that bike?
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Sep 8, 2011 9:17 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
daisy333
daisy333daisy333Sydney, New South Wales Australia28 Threads 7 Polls 514 Posts
Iliah: sssshhh!....

secrets...

would you rather not know truths that might hurt you?

or would you like to know and hurt but know anyway?


If knowing the truth would help me change a situation for the better then, yes, no matter how much it might hurt, knowing would be a good thing.

If it's just that someone doesn't like me, or said something awful about me - meh, who cares. In those situations you are often better off not knowing - you often would never be able to change their mind and who is to say that they're right, anyway?
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Sep 8, 2011 10:47 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
It really depends on teh subject at hand. Some things in life I can live without knowing but for the most part I would rather know the truth and deal with it. wine
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Sep 8, 2011 10:54 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
madtat29
madtat29madtat29Farmington, New Mexico USA35 Posts
I would rather not know if I can help it.
Ignorance is bliss...
If your partner is a true friend then they wouldnt do anything they need to lie to you about to start with.
In a perfect world anyways...
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Sep 8, 2011 10:58 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
venusenvy: It really depends on teh subject at hand. Some things in life I can live without knowing but for the most part I would rather know the truth and deal with it.


Very good thinking. I agree with you.

Another post said that if someone didn't like them or whatever, they wouldn't want to know. In that case, I think it's important to know, because they could be spreading untrue rumors about me that could cause great harm to me and others.
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Sep 8, 2011 11:27 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
I work on the theory that if i dont know anything then i wont know if there is anything i dont know about,because i wont know whether i know anything about it or not.doh grin
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Sep 8, 2011 11:46 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
newinsouth
newinsouthnewinsouthAiken, South Carolina USA26 Threads 2 Polls 1,039 Posts
Absolutely not true. What you don't know can come back and bite you and the hurt is just as fresh as if it happened yesterday. Same for "ignorance is bliss".
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Sep 8, 2011 10:54 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Iliah
IliahIliahRoxas, Western Visayas Philippines17 Threads 84 Posts
I think what my question is trying to encourage is...what we do, who we are becoming now...that is who will be tomorrow...and tomorrow , what we have done..is what we will tell or hide...and to be just one person. One person at work, at home, when you're alone, when you're with people. And when I say..telling..it's not just about words. We can love louder than words. Who we are now, how we love ourselves, how we value truth for ourselves, honoring us. Then the truth will be beautiful and less hurtful.
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Sep 8, 2011 11:06 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
darren9030
darren9030darren9030Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England UK56 Threads 1 Polls 9,665 Posts
Iliah: I think what my question is trying to encourage is...what we do, who we are becoming now...that is who will be tomorrow...and tomorrow , what we have done..is what we will tell or hide...and to be just one person. One person at work, at home, when you're alone, when you're with people. And when I say..telling..it's not just about words. We can love louder than words. Who we are now, how we love ourselves, how we value truth for ourselves, honoring us. Then the truth will be beautiful and less hurtful.




I love those words above lliah wave

Truth is i don't really understand exactly what they mean laugh but still nicely put. Yes, i would rather know the truth however hurtful. No pain no gain in my opinion.
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Sep 17, 2011 4:49 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
In response to: sssshhh!....

secrets...

would you rather not know truths that might hurt you?

or would you like to know and hurt but know anyway?
I'm thick skinned anyway so would like to know laugh Plus, I don't like living in "denile" or even "denial" professor
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Sep 17, 2011 6:46 AM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
Iliah: sssshhh!....

secrets...

would you rather not know truths that might hurt you?

or would you like to know and hurt but know anyway?


Hi Beautiful lliah!!...In life, truth is always best because with truth we are given the opportunity to act accordingly...In other words, even the "white lies" that so many justified in the honesty thread are counterproductive in the respect that we enable, we give the person we are lying to permission to continue doing something that is wrong...Honesty is black and white, one of the few things in life that is...we twist it and turn it, we mold it and shape it in order to justify the lies we tell people because being "totally" honest all of the time is hard...It can be cruel, it can alienate us from others....It can create even bigger problems... Honesty is always right, lying is sometimes necessary....
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Sep 18, 2011 12:51 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
IMO in order to be truthful to others it is so necessary to be honest with oneself. Sometimes, even when we think we're being honest, we're not because we kid ourselves. This is most blatant when we're talking about what motivates us to do one thing or another. We kid ourselves (and tell others) we're doing it for a particular reason and if we dig deep enough we often discover "the real reason" we were prompted to do this or that.

Another interesting thing to consider is people's different perception of things. 3 people experiencing the exact same event will recall 3 completely different experiences, with different memories, feelings, opinions etc. Yet all 3 will be telling THEIR truth laugh

Most of the time, honesty and thruth is relative to the person voicing it and light years away to the truth of the person listening.

In some instances, truth CAN be black or white, but in others there's a myriad of shades of white, off white, slightly grey, greyish, slightly darker grey, silver, dark grey, grey with a dash of blue, mid-night blue & black ... and then there's gloss black & matt black laugh We've all watched films where a barrister corners someone into giving only a "yes or no" (black or white) answer which paints a picture very removed from "the truth" because the shades of grey have been removed.

THIS is MY truth!! And I'm sticking to it for now!! Till I discover a different one rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 18, 2011 4:30 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
Bodecia
BodeciaBodeciaMorristown, New York USA28 Threads 3 Polls 1,476 Posts
Iliah: sssshhh!....

secrets...

would you rather not know truths that might hurt you?

or would you like to know and hurt but know anyway?


If its something that affects me or my family in any way, I want to know.

If its something that doesnt, or is simply gossip, then I would rather not.
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Sep 18, 2011 4:55 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
There are lies of commission, as well as ommission. If someone robs a bank and denies it when asked, that's a lie of commission. If someone knows their friend robbed a bank and doesn't say anything when the officer asks the crowd, "Does anybody know anything about this?", that is a lie of ommisson. I agree with the lady that said, everything is black and white when it comes to lies. Oftentimes, people try to spare people's feelings, but it hurts in the long run. Someone will say, for example behind another person's back, "so and so is always late, and it annoys me no end", but wouldn't it be better not to gossip and just the person to their face?
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Sep 18, 2011 6:12 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
HuggerMan4U: There are lies of commission, as well as ommission. If someone robs a bank and denies it when asked, that's a lie of commission. If someone knows their friend robbed a bank and doesn't say anything when the officer asks the crowd, "Does anybody know anything about this?", that is a lie of ommisson. I agree with the lady that said, everything is black and white when it comes to lies. Oftentimes, people try to spare people's feelings, but it hurts in the long run. Someone will say, for example behind another person's back, "so and so is always late, and it annoys me no end", but wouldn't it be better not to gossip and just the person to their face?


That reminds of the time I was workking with a friend and gave her a lift into work. After a few weeks I was getting annoyed because every time she was about 10 mins late. So one day I commented on it ... AND discovered both my clocks were running about 10 mins fast!!! She'd been bang on time and I was 10 mins early!!! rolling on the floor laughing She'd been wondering why I had hinted about "time" a couple of times!!! We laughed about it!!
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Sep 18, 2011 6:22 PM CST what you don't know will not hurt you...so..you really don't wanna know?
HOUSTON4
HOUSTON4HOUSTON4Lampeter, Dyfed, Wales UK10 Threads 394 Posts
Iliah: sssshhh!....

secrets...

would you rather not know truths that might hurt you?

or would you like to know and hurt but know anyway?


Well in my view honesty is best and no matter how upsetting it my be it's still best to be honest about it.
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