A Political Question (188)
bluejay2011: I'll bring the muffins
Your on
Hi bluejay
Dunno you all, but i believe a few are ripping everybody off, exploiting this country for all its worth, coming out with grand plans they expect others to pay for, they have sold off all the utilities to there mates and stripped what the Australian people owned and had paid for over many years. Power Supply, Telephones, Hospitals, Qantas, Railways, brought ten million migrants into Australia to create jobs while they destroyed small farms, business and actually took away many many jobs. They changed Southern Queensland into a commuters nightmare, built walkways for yuppies, grand tunnels and bridges and covered some best farmland in the state in bricks and tiles.
Bring Pacific Island votes, they at least would be happy to just be and let live, grow veg, run few pigs, chooks and brighten life up in many diffident ways without selling Australia off to the Americans. Something like 70% of profits flowing out of WA goes tax-free to overseas share holders
Dunno you all, but i believe a few are ripping everybody off, exploiting this country for all its worth, coming out with grand plans they expect others to pay for, they have sold off all the utilities to there mates and stripped what the Australian people owned and had paid for over many years. Power Supply, Telephones, Hospitals, Qantas, Railways, brought ten million migrants into Australia to create jobs while they destroyed small farms, business and actually took away many many jobs. They changed Southern Queensland into a commuters nightmare, built walkways for yuppies, grand tunnels and bridges and covered some best farmland in the state in bricks and tiles.
Bring Pacific Island votes, they at least would be happy to just be and let live, grow veg, run few pigs, chooks and brighten life up in many diffident ways without selling Australia off to the Americans. Something like 70% of profits flowing out of WA goes tax-free to overseas share holders
robplum: Hi bluejay
Dunno you all, but i believe a few are ripping everybody off, exploiting this country for all its worth, coming out with grand plans they expect others to pay for, they have sold off all the utilities to there mates and stripped what the Australian people owned and had paid for over many years. Power Supply, Telephones, Hospitals, Qantas, Railways, brought ten million migrants into Australia to create jobs while they destroyed small farms, business and actually took away many many jobs. They changed Southern Queensland into a commuters nightmare, built walkways for yuppies, grand tunnels and bridges and covered some best farmland in the state in bricks and tiles.
Bring Pacific Island votes, they at least would be happy to just be and let live, grow veg, run few pigs, chooks and brighten life up in many diffident ways without selling Australia off to the Americans. Something like 70% of profits flowing out of WA goes tax-free to overseas share holders
Dunno you all, but i believe a few are ripping everybody off, exploiting this country for all its worth, coming out with grand plans they expect others to pay for, they have sold off all the utilities to there mates and stripped what the Australian people owned and had paid for over many years. Power Supply, Telephones, Hospitals, Qantas, Railways, brought ten million migrants into Australia to create jobs while they destroyed small farms, business and actually took away many many jobs. They changed Southern Queensland into a commuters nightmare, built walkways for yuppies, grand tunnels and bridges and covered some best farmland in the state in bricks and tiles.
Bring Pacific Island votes, they at least would be happy to just be and let live, grow veg, run few pigs, chooks and brighten life up in many diffident ways without selling Australia off to the Americans. Something like 70% of profits flowing out of WA goes tax-free to overseas share holders
Rob, I didn't realize you were a green.
I just finished reading the Greens Manifesto from 2007 (all 93 pages of it.) And you virtually quoted parts of it.
I know the general opinion of people is that the greens are wack jobs, and they are in politics, so perhaps they are (and perhaps I am for wanting to get involved?) But I have to say, I begining to lean toward them.
I kind of like an environment with green grass and trees, but watching the greens ax and poison willows and popular trees lowering the water table because they are non indigenous 
We live in a world whether we like it or not, where conflicts often occur, children have fathers and most people build houses out of timber, most people prefer to drive motor vehicles, yet i agree most people don't want 1080 dropped into there water catchments but there just doesn't seem to be any balance or in-between.
We live in a world whether we like it or not, where conflicts often occur, children have fathers and most people build houses out of timber, most people prefer to drive motor vehicles, yet i agree most people don't want 1080 dropped into there water catchments but there just doesn't seem to be any balance or in-between.
Hi Rob
I think most politicians start off with the best intentions, unfortunately they all end up greedy and corrupt. It is also bloody hard work to change policy and legislation and keep public approval.
I think most politicians start off with the best intentions, unfortunately they all end up greedy and corrupt. It is also bloody hard work to change policy and legislation and keep public approval.
Arkayos: What political party would you join and why?
Keeping in mind joining a party is more than just voting for it. It means paying a monthly, or annual membership fee, and actually doing something (knocking on doors, making calls.) Rather than just yacking...
(I'm asking this, because as of Saturday I've earned the right to vote, and join a party. I plan to get onto this on monday. I have my choice narrowed down, but I would appreciate other opinions.)
and I'm all about parties...
seriously if I was going to join any party it would be the republicans because that’s what I believe Australia’s future is at. Keeping in mind joining a party is more than just voting for it. It means paying a monthly, or annual membership fee, and actually doing something (knocking on doors, making calls.) Rather than just yacking...
(I'm asking this, because as of Saturday I've earned the right to vote, and join a party. I plan to get onto this on monday. I have my choice narrowed down, but I would appreciate other opinions.)
and I'm all about parties...
bluejay2011: Hi Rob
I think most politicians start off with the best intentions, unfortunately they all end up greedy and corrupt. It is also bloody hard work to change policy and legislation and keep public approval.
I think most politicians start off with the best intentions, unfortunately they all end up greedy and corrupt. It is also bloody hard work to change policy and legislation and keep public approval.
the unrelenting pursuit of self interest/greed
AgentAjax: seriously if I was going to join any party it would be the republicans because that’s what I believe Australia’s future is at.
we got the best head of state any country has as she does nothing, but an aussie in as head of state and he/she would grasp a thought and do something
robplum: i did hear that chewing your finger nails can do it...
But yes congratulations to there union is in order, according to the current Prime Minister Female are equal in every respect, myself i would disagree in relation to the Female birth and Male birth as Female far more complicated rebirth than male
But yes congratulations to there union is in order, according to the current Prime Minister Female are equal in every respect, myself i would disagree in relation to the Female birth and Male birth as Female far more complicated rebirth than male
Oh yes Rob I completely agree 
robplum: we got the best head of state any country has as she does nothing, but an aussie in as head of state and he/she would grasp a thought and do something
I just think its time to stand on our won two feet is all. Rewrite some of the laws and perhaps introduce new ones that have more to do with our way of life.AgentAjax: I just think its time to stand on our won two feet is all. Rewrite some of the laws and perhaps introduce new ones that have more to do with our way of life.
AA you are also quoting from the Green manifesto. One of the core policies is a republican australia, and a revision to the constitution. (you guys would be surprised how well thought out the manifesto is for something written by whack jobs...)
Now on this point I have to dissagree - I think it is important to have a figurehead (especially a powerless one), and I don't like the idea of an elected figurehead... I would prefer hereditary, or even a random one...
Arkayos: AA you are also quoting from the Green manifesto. One of the core policies is a republican australia, and a revision to the constitution. (you guys would be surprised how well thought out the manifesto is for something written by whack jobs...)
Now on this point I have to dissagree - I think it is important to have a figurehead (especially a powerless one), and I don't like the idea of an elected figurehead... I would prefer hereditary, or even a random one...
and the philosophy of existentialism comes to mind. This is where you have the opportunity for a new beginning.Now on this point I have to dissagree - I think it is important to have a figurehead (especially a powerless one), and I don't like the idea of an elected figurehead... I would prefer hereditary, or even a random one...
AgentAjax: I just think its time to stand on our won two feet is all. Rewrite some of the laws and perhaps introduce new ones that have more to do with our way of life.
At the moment we elect members of the community to express the views of the voters under a darn good constitution that has a person as head of state that crosses the divide between the ethical make up of Australia.
Its bad enough that the people paid to represent the people go about doing so by belonging to parties that ignore the views of the electors, piss in the pocket of the more wealthy at the expense of everyone will paying lip service to the environmental issues, eg the biggest loggers in the country are states exploiting the forests (they would say managing) never lone having one person calling the shots. At least some augments put by the people get heard as it is as the constitution to a large extent sets out the playing field.
For more than three years (while Tim Fischer shared thoughts with them) i debated the virtues of our constitution over all comers including the gun-toting, almost non voting Americans and the Bhutanese put in place there gross national happiness constitution with king of bhutan as head of state. There first draft constitution above all protected there forests.
Here the elected sevenats think they are in charge of there boss's e.g. the electors and that's real crazy stuff
Arkayos: AA you are also quoting from the Green manifesto. One of the core policies is a republican australia, and a revision to the constitution. (you guys would be surprised how well thought out the manifesto is for something written by whack jobs...)
Now on this point I have to dissagree - I think it is important to have a figurehead (especially a powerless one), and I don't like the idea of an elected figurehead... I would prefer hereditary, or even a random one...
Now on this point I have to dissagree - I think it is important to have a figurehead (especially a powerless one), and I don't like the idea of an elected figurehead... I would prefer hereditary, or even a random one...
There you go we have the Queen already.For some silly reason I always think of Round heads when I think Republican... rather stiff correct and no sense of humour.
robplum: At the moment we elect members of the community to express the views of the voters under a darn good constitution that has a person as head of state that crosses the divide between the ethical make up of Australia.
Its bad enough that the people paid to represent the people go about doing so by belonging to parties that ignore the views of the electors, piss in the pocket of the more wealthy at the expense of everyone will paying lip service to the environmental issues, eg the biggest loggers in the country are states exploiting the forests (they would say managing) never lone having one person calling the shots. At least some augments put by the people get heard as it is as the constitution to a large extent sets out the playing field.
For more than three years (while Tim Fischer shared thoughts with them) i debated the virtues of our constitution over all comers including the gun-toting, almost non voting Americans and the Bhutanese put in place there gross national happiness constitution with king of bhutan as head of state. There first draft constitution above all protected there forests.
Here the elected sevenats think they are in charge of there boss's e.g. the electors and that's real crazy stuff
there are always going to be arguments for and against the bottom line is, the time is now to make a change… yes at some cost of course but in 20 to 50 years time we will be at a better place as a nation.Its bad enough that the people paid to represent the people go about doing so by belonging to parties that ignore the views of the electors, piss in the pocket of the more wealthy at the expense of everyone will paying lip service to the environmental issues, eg the biggest loggers in the country are states exploiting the forests (they would say managing) never lone having one person calling the shots. At least some augments put by the people get heard as it is as the constitution to a large extent sets out the playing field.
For more than three years (while Tim Fischer shared thoughts with them) i debated the virtues of our constitution over all comers including the gun-toting, almost non voting Americans and the Bhutanese put in place there gross national happiness constitution with king of bhutan as head of state. There first draft constitution above all protected there forests.
Here the elected sevenats think they are in charge of there boss's e.g. the electors and that's real crazy stuff
AgentAjax: and the philosophy of existentialism comes to mind. This is where you have the opportunity for a new beginning.
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO don't bring philosophy up again,its like running around in a big rubber ball and making the same amount of difference.
Martia: There you go we have the Queen already.For some silly reason I always think of Round heads when I think Republican... rather stiff correct and no sense of humour.
I usually dont comment on politics. But l like having the queen as head of state. I think a President would have to much power and who would elect them in us voters or the policial party that won the elecetion? They could stack the deck far too easily. I think it is a far fairer system to have the Govener General who has no policital connections.
AgentAjax: there are always going to be arguments for and against the bottom line is, the time is now to make a change… yes at some cost of course but in 20 to 50 years time we will be at a better place as a nation.
We already had a referendum on it and the answer was a loud and clear NO
Change for the sake of change is i think crazy, who would you have as President Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, John Howard, Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, Bob Bown, Goff Whitlen, what on earth are you talking about AA, why can't you accept the will of the people which said NO
Martia: OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO don't bring philosophy up again,its like running around in a big rubber ball and making the same amount of difference.
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I'm thinking the party convention might be interesting...
I'll bring the muffins