A Political Question (188)
Its already by the people
correction its already be decided by the people and NO was there answer
correction its already be decided by the people and NO was there answer
robplum: Its already by the people
correction its already be decided by the people and NO was there answer
correction its already be decided by the people and NO was there answer
Thankyou for replying Rob it will be interesting to see all these Republicans come up with an answer.
I am so glad we went into this as I was not worried one way or another but really thinking about it....I will repeat IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT.
Martia: Thankyou for replying Rob it will be interesting to see all these Republicans come up with an answer.
I am so glad we went into this as I was not worried one way or another but really thinking about it....I will repeat IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT.
I am so glad we went into this as I was not worried one way or another but really thinking about it....I will repeat IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT.
Martia, the Republican cry is "It ain't broke, but let's fix it."
wash2u: Being of an inquisical mind and open to display a lack of knowledge when I want, I did a bit of research on the origins of the Australian Parliamentary system and discovered that it was already modelled on the USA system. Yes, Arky, have a good look at how each House is selected and you will find it is the same. Why did we go this was? Mainly because we had no Lords and the USA system of balances and checks seemed to work. The only difference was that we kept the Monarch as Head of State mainly because at that time, each State was still a British Colony under British Law and Rule.
You are right Wash, but you are forgetting that the US system was copied from the british. Both Franklin and Jefferson wanted a higher house, made of land owners with hereditary rights, just like the house of lords. Adams was the one who pushed for an elected teritorrial representation. Others had pushed for Washington to be crowned king, with the right to appoint hereditary lordships.
Arkayos: I would agree with you on this. I like the fact that no "local" politician can take ultimate control. There is a higher power, in our case the Queen. And as I said before, she acts like a circuit breaker.
As an example, the government is formed by consent of the queen. Had JG not been able to persuade the independants to support her last year, and the ALP and NLP been tied for power, it would have been the queen they would have had to appeal to...
So what power do you think the queen has over Australia these days? The queen can no longer remove our government since the law was changed in 86? As an example, the government is formed by consent of the queen. Had JG not been able to persuade the independants to support her last year, and the ALP and NLP been tied for power, it would have been the queen they would have had to appeal to...
Arkayos: You are right Wash, but you are forgetting that the US system was copied from the british. Both Franklin and Jefferson wanted a higher house, made of land owners with hereditary rights, just like the house of lords. Adams was the one who pushed for an elected teritorrial representation. Others had pushed for Washington to be crowned king, with the right to appoint hereditary lordships.
In 1986, the Australia Acts removed the residual powers of the British government to intervene in the government of Australia or the individual states.
AgentAjax: In 1986, the Australia Acts removed the residual powers of the British government to intervene in the government of Australia or the individual states.
Whats wrong with a figurehead???? better the Queen than a President surely.
We have to vote in a President OK and is it compulsory..... how and when do we do that???
After that what does he or she do??? and where does this leave the Prime Minister.
Sorry to seem so dumb but none of my questions have been answered....this is the third time I have posted about this.
Am I being naive is it too silly to reply to or what.
Someone tell me how it will work please.
Martia: Whats wrong with a figurehead???? better the Queen than a President surely.
We have to vote in a President OK and is it compulsory..... how and when do we do that???
After that what does he or she do??? and where does this leave the Prime Minister.
Sorry to seem so dumb but none of my questions have been answered....this is the third time I have posted about this.
Am I being naive is it too silly to reply to or what.
Someone tell me how it will work please.
We have to vote in a President OK and is it compulsory..... how and when do we do that???
After that what does he or she do??? and where does this leave the Prime Minister.
Sorry to seem so dumb but none of my questions have been answered....this is the third time I have posted about this.
Am I being naive is it too silly to reply to or what.
Someone tell me how it will work please.
You are asking the right questions, and as was said "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Arkayos: You are asking the right questions, and as was said "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
I like that “if its not broken don’t fix it” It might not have to be broken, it just might be out of date. That’s like saying if you have a good horsecart in the shed why upgrade to a car? GeezMartia: Whats wrong with a figurehead???? better the Queen than a President surely.
We have to vote in a President OK and is it compulsory..... how and when do we do that???
After that what does he or she do??? and where does this leave the Prime Minister.
Sorry to seem so dumb but none of my questions have been answered....this is the third time I have posted about this.
Am I being naive is it too silly to reply to or what.
Someone tell me how it will work please.
We have to vote in a President OK and is it compulsory..... how and when do we do that???
After that what does he or she do??? and where does this leave the Prime Minister.
Sorry to seem so dumb but none of my questions have been answered....this is the third time I have posted about this.
Am I being naive is it too silly to reply to or what.
Someone tell me how it will work please.
There is nothing wrong with it as per se. At one stage it was a good idea because it came with a system of lows and regulations that obviously early settlers were accustomed with. Eventually every child has to leave its mother and after 200 years I think its time to leave Mother England, stand on our own two feet, create our own identity as a nation called Australia solemnly ruled by Australians.
AgentAjax: I like that “if its not broken don’t fix it” It might not have to be broken, it just might be out of date. That’s like saying if you have a good horsecart in the shed why upgrade to a car? Geez
When upgrading from a horse cart, to a car, there are clear benifits.
What are the clear benifits to changing the system we have?
Arkayos: When upgrading from a horse cart, to a car, there are clear benifits.
What are the clear benifits to changing the system we have?
What are the clear benifits to changing the system we have?
How would you know if there are benefits or not being under the same constitution? Not a wise political question…really.
Have you travelled much? If you have you would have noticed good old England is not all that well received around the world.
There is one of them.
AgentAjax: There is nothing wrong with it as per se. At one stage it was a good idea because it came with a system of lows and regulations that obviously early settlers were accustomed with. Eventually every child has to leave its mother and after 200 years I think its time to leave Mother England, stand on our own two feet, create our own identity as a nation called Australia solemnly ruled by Australians.
You still haven't answered my Question sweetheart.....what comes first Prime Minister Or President.
England has the Prime Minister as we do and the USA has the President.
SO fast forward......here we are now a Republic all you republicans have got your way and ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
AgentAjax: How would you know if there are benefits or not being under the same constitution? Not a wise political question…really.
Have you travelled much? If you have you would have noticed good old England is not all that well received around the world.
There is one of them.
Have you travelled much? If you have you would have noticed good old England is not all that well received around the world.
There is one of them.
Well at least the world knows they are around and the USA seems to like and respect them! they also love the Monarchy.
Australia is very small worldwide in the scheme of things as you would know.Which in someways is a good thing I believe.
Martia: You still haven't answered my Question sweetheart.....what comes first Prime Minister Or President.
England has the Prime Minister as we do and the USA has the President.
SO fast forward......here we are now a Republic all you republicans have got your way and ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
are you serious? Why are you asking the obvious? England has a queen? Spain has a king and a prime minister? If you had a president that would remove the queens every right. England has the Prime Minister as we do and the USA has the President.
SO fast forward......here we are now a Republic all you republicans have got your way and ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
AgentAjax: Have you travelled much? If you have you would have noticed good old England is not all that well received around the world.
lol... yes I have... Out of the 62 countries I have lived in (including England on several occasions) Australia has the best, though not perfect, system I have seen.
The people who don't like us (western white people) don't care if we are from England, the US or Australia. The hate us all equally.
AgentAjax: are you serious? Why are you asking the obvious? England has a queen? Spain has a king and a prime minister? If you had a president that would remove the queens every right.
YES I KNOW THAT...... but who has a Prime minister and a President
Thats what I am getting at and who does what.???????
Also who lives where.
AgentAjax: are you serious? Why are you asking the obvious? England has a queen? Spain has a king and a prime minister? If you had a president that would remove the queens every right.
Not just asking you AA
just need a straight answer. 
Martia: YES I KNOW THAT...... but who has a Prime minister and a President
Thats what I am getting at and who does what.???????
Also who lives where.
Thats what I am getting at and who does what.???????
Also who lives where.
My darling I really don’t know what your asking? Under which system would we be better off… is that it?
I don’t think for the individual it would make all that much difference. Most laws under the present system don’t affect you or me, neither would the laws under the presidency. What effects individuals mostly middle class is your local politics, such as council rates, roads, parking and all other general cervices.
On a grand scale of things having a republic does and I strongly believe would make immense difference. A) For a start we would be making a statement, telling the world we have matured as a nation. B) As a multicultural nation it would be easier to unite as one people. C) because of England’s past history we are frowned upon. We are not English we are not, Dutch German, Yugoslav, Russian…etc we are nation of many invited over here by the government of the 60’s and 70’s to make Australia home and not England.
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Also who is in charge ?????? we the people vote in the new President The members of Parliament vote in the Prime Minister
Yeah...... wont cost us anymore what a joke.
I want to know how this will work.
Its already by the people, but Queen has a residence already, the politician suggested they should appoint the proposed president cheeky sods, jobs for mates thats what they proposed martia