Women behind the men (81)
EagleWoman: Olaix it wasn't coercion like: "Go on! You'll see!! You'll like it!!"
I used to be: You're a woman therefore you can't study, you can't vote, you can't own property in your sole name, you can't take decisions pertaining to your persoanl life. The father (or older brother when the father died) used to be responsible for all those things till the woman was married then it became the husband's responisbility. In those days ... the only way a bright/great woman could shine was by intelligently/cleverly supporting her husband to achieve whatever he set out to do. It still is like that for women in some societies.
What do you mean if it works? Does it ever work that someone can only live through the achievements of another? Not through choice but because "the laws" say you can NOT set out to do what you want because you're a woman!!!
I used to be: You're a woman therefore you can't study, you can't vote, you can't own property in your sole name, you can't take decisions pertaining to your persoanl life. The father (or older brother when the father died) used to be responsible for all those things till the woman was married then it became the husband's responisbility. In those days ... the only way a bright/great woman could shine was by intelligently/cleverly supporting her husband to achieve whatever he set out to do. It still is like that for women in some societies.
What do you mean if it works? Does it ever work that someone can only live through the achievements of another? Not through choice but because "the laws" say you can NOT set out to do what you want because you're a woman!!!
Ahh,,, well I guess we're not talking about the same thing then :p I am not suggesting that the woman behind the man in real means or should mean to take away the rights of a woman - women and men are utter different and I think there is a lot of confusion from both genders mixing up equality - anything else than equality in civil rights is not acceptable and its not how anyone should live.
I do think that it is completely irrelevant for what is made, and I thought you were talking about possible/ not possible, or great injustice requirement :p
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EagleWoman: Why does it have to be the girl's role to live in the shadow of a man with a mission?
Why aren't you including into the equation the possibility of a man living in a woman's shadow to support her in reaching the goal of her mission in life?
Surely BOTH men and women are capable of generosity, humility and devotion!!
Why aren't you including into the equation the possibility of a man living in a woman's shadow to support her in reaching the goal of her mission in life?
Surely BOTH men and women are capable of generosity, humility and devotion!!
This post is not about equality. But it is not about injustice either, if you draw this conclusion, well basically you know how drawing premature conclusions works. Perhaps you can make a thread about the man behind the girl. Who knows, perhaps someone have a idea about it, that you don't have.
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By the way, have you ever thought about sharing a goal, or sharing a mission in life? :p don't make it sound so selfish, like a solo run :p
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olaix: Hi, you probably heard the expression; behind every great man, there is a woman.
Do you believe its true?
why?
why not?
if yes; how? what would make it, what would break it?
and if it is true - would it be possible for all to "participate", or just the special few?
and in case availability for everyone is correct, including you and I, what would be the price for engaging in such? and what would be the price to not?
Do you believe its true?
why?
why not?
if yes; how? what would make it, what would break it?
and if it is true - would it be possible for all to "participate", or just the special few?
and in case availability for everyone is correct, including you and I, what would be the price for engaging in such? and what would be the price to not?
For me it means that you better have your back securely covered in order to achieve something noticeable in this world. And it happens that an intelligent and talented woman agrees to play the second violin when she sees that her man is worth the support.
I think, whoever said this phrase, meant well – it was praise to a woman supporting her “great” man. But actually this phrase reflected the glass ceiling that existed, and still exists, for women who want to make a political or professional career.
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Tulefel: For me it means that you better have your back securely covered in order to achieve something noticeable in this world. And it happens that an intelligent and talented woman agrees to play the second violin when she sees that her man is worth the support.
I think, whoever said this phrase, meant well – it was praise to a woman supporting her “great” man. But actually this phrase reflected the glass ceiling that existed, and still exists, for women who want to make a political or professional career.
I think, whoever said this phrase, meant well – it was praise to a woman supporting her “great” man. But actually this phrase reflected the glass ceiling that existed, and still exists, for women who want to make a political or professional career.
I question that any "violin" is being played. It may look like that from the outside, but I'm more interested in how it works on the inside. Being a man, perhaps I should just shut, especially on a public forum :)
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olaix: I question that any "violin" is being played. It may look like that from the outside, but I'm more interested in how it works on the inside. Being a man, perhaps I should just shut, especially on a public forum :)
Well… from the inside it looks like the man expects his wife to adjust to his life style. That’s from my experience. I failed to find any greatness in him, though (beside the physical dimensions).
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its not true cos theres no woman behind this great man
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Well, any guy should recognize that there is something funny going on inside his head when he looks at a woman. Suddenly you become a creative, attentive hero I'm joking but also serious - a lot of guys even put their life in danger when a girl is involved, something he would never do in other situations. May not only be a hero, but betraying friends, making a lot of problems - it is not necessarily good - the opposite emotions in motion can make a guy extremely unpredictable and dangerous. I have seen a fatal outcome of this. It is at a pretty deep level of our nature, but possible to look at.
I'm joking but also serious - a lot of guys even put their life in danger when a girl is involved, something he would never do in other situations. May not only be a hero, but betraying friends, making a lot of problems - it is not necessarily good - the opposite emotions in motion can make a guy extremely unpredictable and dangerous. I have seen a fatal outcome of this. It is at a pretty deep level of our nature, but possible to look at.------ This thread is Archived ------
Sister28: i think women nowadays will overcome the man to be stand in front of him
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She may, if it is justice. That is, if she has more resources, or if she wasn't unfortunate with her birth location, we still have less opened societies still when it comes to women rights.
But I question, should not a woman be the woman behind the man, even if she is a famous and popular character, and he is taking care of the house? Then perhaps it becomes clear how stupid it becomes to assume, by the expression, that the intention of the man, in such relationship, is to block the light from the blitzes for the woman.
But I question, should not a woman be the woman behind the man, even if she is a famous and popular character, and he is taking care of the house? Then perhaps it becomes clear how stupid it becomes to assume, by the expression, that the intention of the man, in such relationship, is to block the light from the blitzes for the woman.
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Sister28: i think women nowadays will overcome the man to be stand in front of him
Maybe this is why we are all Single
this may be like putting the cart before the Horse?????
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Maybe the expression that behind every great man there is a woman should be changed to Beside a great man stands a great woman.
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Sister28: i think women nowadays will overcome the man to be stand in front of him
....mother nature made us what we are........to try and change that...may be a bigger mistake.....then the mistakes we make today....man/woman....------ This thread is Archived ------
trueheart1941: ....mother nature made us what we are........to try and change that...may be a bigger mistake.....then the mistakes we make today....man/woman....
You're treding on dangerous ground there Pete!
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olaix: Ahh,,, well I guess we're not talking about the same thing then :p I am not suggesting that the woman behind the man in real means or should mean to take away the rights of a woman - women and men are utter different and I think there is a lot of confusion from both genders mixing up equality - anything else than equality in civil rights is not acceptable and its not how anyone should live.
I do think that it is completely irrelevant for what is made, and I thought you were talking about possible/ not possible, or great injustice requirement :p
I do think that it is completely irrelevant for what is made, and I thought you were talking about possible/ not possible, or great injustice requirement :p
In many societies now days because men and women have similar - if not identical - civil rights, it is their choice whether they want to generously and lovingly be their partner's support system to help them achieve their "life-mission". It's not a gender issue anymore.
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olaix: She may, if it is justice. That is, if she has more resources, or if she wasn't unfortunate with her birth location, we still have less opened societies still when it comes to women rights.
But I question, should not a woman be the woman behind the man, even if she is a famous and popular character, and he is taking care of the house? Then perhaps it becomes clear how stupid it becomes to assume, by the expression, that the intention of the man, in such relationship, is to block the light from the blitzes for the woman.
But I question, should not a woman be the woman behind the man, even if she is a famous and popular character, and he is taking care of the house? Then perhaps it becomes clear how stupid it becomes to assume, by the expression, that the intention of the man, in such relationship, is to block the light from the blitzes for the woman.
Where's the ego now?
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Um Baby, youve got it backwards 
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Why aren't you including into the equation the possibility of a man living in a woman's shadow to support her in reaching the goal of her mission in life?
Surely BOTH men and women are capable of generosity, humility and devotion!!
Why aren't you including into the equation the possibility of a man living in a woman's shadow to support her in reaching the goal of her mission in life?
Surely BOTH men and women are capable of generosity, humility and devotion!!