violation of the First Geneva Convention ( Archived) (62)

Jan 14, 2012 3:56 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Rummy1
Rummy1Rummy1Baku, Azerbaijan38 Threads 3 Polls 565 Posts
chris27292729: Human Rights violation,and democratic rights, in your country,does not making somebody, proud of,after nearly 20 years of the Aliyevs,father and son,ruling you.-


Chriss.I think u should know the issue before talking.
Let me give you some info about Heydar Aliyev.He used to control Azerbaijan from 1969-82 in Soviet Union.when He become first secretary 1969,when Azerbaijan was one of the least developed republic of USSR countries.But he made the republic one of the most advanced economy by building many strategic industries.This man was a real hard worker.Also he gave a good education to people.In 1982 he left Azerbaijan to become a vise head of KGB of USSR.His political karrer finished after Gorbachov became to power.
After collapse of USSR, Azerbaijan became of war stage and almost was devided for ceveral pieces.Its not easy for a country with rich natural recourses to survive between the countries like Russia and Iran .People saw only him as a survivor of the country and asked him to come back and take the charge.This man first stopped war by ceasefire with armenia,then he stopped a citizen war inside the country ,disarmed all illegall armed groups making a peace inside of country.Then He maid a biggest oil contract with west against Russian will by proving our independence.Kicked out all iranian and russian spyes out of country.In 2003 he has died and people chosed his son as a president.since then Azerbaijan dramatically has improved.in 2008 people chosed him for second term.People are very happy with his presidency also I am.He is as hard worker as his father.He's building a modern cities and country.Made Azerbaijan one of the safest place in the world.I agree that he is not perfect man as there is no perfect president in the world.But Azerbaijani people are very happy with him and if he wants become a 3rd time president me and all my family will vote for him again.
We are very developing in recent years and making all around countries who even dont like our succes such as Russia and iran ) to respect our independent country.
So please dont try give misinfomation to people here about my country.We are not Afganistan nor North Korea.We are devoloping Independent democratic (agree that not in its high level yet)secular Republic.U can see in the youtube videos how this President building up the country. This are all started big progects.

I apologise to the Op for hijacking the thread.But Criss made me to do it with his comments against my country,so i had to give some info that he is not right.His comment wasnt to do anything with urinating US soldires and taliban,or Geneva Convention,but only against my country and megrin

And remeber Chriss.Whoever we are ,wherever we are from,what race or nation we are doesnt matter.We are all human ,and have morals and human values.Whoever do such things is a shame for his/her country.family and for humanity.beer
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Jan 14, 2012 8:05 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
kidatheart: No, it doesn't, all it does is reduces any individual committing these acts to that of a mere savage. I'd say the same about those that support or condone these acts, they're no better.

Where is the self worth of these people, is there no humanity left in them?




Well said H. But Considering this situation I would add:

What happened to the Code of Military HONOR?

By doing something hideous like this ( no matter what side do that)... they make A burning coal of hatred to swell much brighter. Hate give birth to more hate.


With this kind of attitude we want Wars to stop ... it will never happened. sigh
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Jan 14, 2012 8:48 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Konigsberg: Well said H. But Considering this situation I would add:

What happened to the Code of Military HONOR?

By doing something hideous like this ( no matter what side do that)... they make A burning coal of hatred to swell much brighter. Hate give birth to more hate. With this kind of attitude we want Wars to stop ... it will never happened.


Code of Honor - Air force Academy - Battleground Series

Published on Sep 19, 2011

The story of the U.S. Air Force Academy Honor Code and how adhering to the code affects the lives of cadets. Also, includes a powerful statement by a Vietnam POW on the long-term benefits of the code.

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Jan 14, 2012 12:27 PM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
cloud747: stop diverting the discussion sir. are you comparing USA with syria noe? this is a sign of desparation in argumental power.


Nope. I replied to a comment one of the posters on this thread directed at me. I did not compare the US to anything but merely stated there are countries out there that are not very democratic.

cloud747: USA claims to be the center of democracy and invades other countries to export that democracy. syria does not claim so.


The US does not claim that, you do.

And, other countries were invaded but not for the reasons you state. Try looking up those reasons for a change rather than making your own.

Iraq

Afghanistan (2001%E2%80%93present)
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Jan 14, 2012 1:50 PM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
jono7: i don't think anyone agrees with violating the dead on any level. and i love a laugh as much as the next person, just not with this topic.

being civilized, means acting in a civilized manner. it's not about knowing something, and just using it when it serves your purpose.

just coz you don't agree with someone's ideology or philosophy....doesn't mean that person has no value.

i will fight to defend what is mine, but i will not forget that the other person is still a human being.

so don't let them wind you up rummy.
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Jan 14, 2012 1:51 PM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
jono7: i don't think anyone agrees with violating the dead on any level. and i love a laugh as much as the next person, just not with this topic.

being civilized, means acting in a civilized manner. it's not about knowing something, and just using it when it serves your purpose.

just coz you don't agree with someone's ideology or philosophy....doesn't mean that person has no value.

i will fight to defend what is mine, but i will not forget that the other person is still a human being.

so don't let them wind you up rummy.
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Jan 14, 2012 11:30 PM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Brief description of the Geneva Conventions and images showing their every day violations in the occupied territories.

Geneva Conventions IV Human Rights

Jan 24, 2009

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Jan 14, 2012 11:56 PM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts


American mutilation of Japanese war dead

During World War II, some United States military personnel mutilated dead Japanese service personnel in the Pacific theater of operations. The mutilation of Japanese service personnel included the taking of body parts as “war souvenirs” and “war trophies”. Teeth and skulls were the most commonly taken "trophies", although other body parts
were also collected.

The phenomenon of "trophy-taking" was widespread enough that discussion of it featured prominently in magazines and newspapers, and Franklin Roosevelt himself was reportedly given, by a US Congressman, a gift of a letter-opener made of a man's arm (Roosevelt later ordered that the gift be returned and called for its proper burial). The behavior was officially prohibited by the U.S. military, which issued additional guidance as early as 1942 condemning it specifically. Nonetheless, the behavior continued throughout the war in the Pacific Theater, and has resulted in continued discoveries of "trophy skulls" of Japanese combatants in American possession, as well as American and Japanese efforts to repatriate the remains of the Japanese dead


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Jan 14, 2012 11:58 PM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
johnaustin123: Brief description of the Geneva Conventions and images showing their every day violations in the occupied territories.

Geneva Conventions IV Human Rights

Jan 24, 2009





That video is NOT from the, what you call "occupied territories." Plus don't forget Israel has suffered an average of two rocket attacks even in the year 2011 every single day. The madness still goes on. Israel's enemies are prize violators in the first degree of breaking Geneva Convention Articles. If they declare a ceasefire and keep it longer than the average of a couple of hours then that's a start to peace.
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Jan 15, 2012 12:02 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
I'm about ready to take a piss frustrated
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Jan 15, 2012 12:02 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
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Jan 15, 2012 12:12 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
Wow_Factor: That video is NOT from the, what you call "occupied territories." Plus don't forget Israel has suffered an average of two rocket attacks even in the year 2011 every single day. The madness still goes on. Israel's enemies are prize violators in the first degree of breaking Geneva Convention Articles. If they declare a ceasefire and keep it longer than the average of a couple of hours then that's a start to peace.

As long as Israelis respond using violence they are sowing the seeds of further violence, on the other hand same goes for the Palestinians, the old story as you sow so shall you reap.

Its not possible to obtain lasting happiness by using violence as a means as you create the seeds to experience further violence.

Almott entered into an agreement with Muslim in Southern Lebanon and the West Bank Palestine, the Israelis were the first to break the agreement
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Jan 15, 2012 12:15 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
Wow_Factor: That video is NOT from the, what you call "occupied territories." Plus don't forget Israel has suffered an average of two rocket attacks even in the year 2011 every single day. The madness still goes on. Israel's enemies are prize violators in the first degree of breaking Geneva Convention Articles. If they declare a ceasefire and keep it longer than the average of a couple of hours then that's a start to peace.


wave Wow!

The video was updated Jan 24, 2009

Things change and then goes back to the same old, same old. The vicious circle of Politics. I posted the date so that everyone would know that it's 3 years old. History repeats itself.
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Jan 15, 2012 12:17 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
The blatant attitude of lack of human respect was cast by the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld regime... and has remained in place.



If our own so called adults in government have no respect or sense of what is right... do you really think that some young soldiers don't hear the message?

We should be ashamed, but don't blame them, blame those who gave them permission. scold
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Jan 15, 2012 12:23 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
robplum: As long as Israelis respond using violence they are sowing the seeds of further violence, on the other hand same goes for the Palestinians, the old story as you sow so shall you reap.

Its not possible to obtain lasting happiness by using violence as a means as you create the seeds to experience further violence.

Almott entered into an agreement with Muslim in Southern Lebanon and the West Bank Palestine, the Israelis were the first to break the agreement


I think the Israelis are restrained considering what they have to cope with on a daily basis. But yes, of course, it is an ongoing cycle. However whereas Israel's enemies actually target civilians which is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention, plus they also allow young children to fire weapons, use human shields, fire from mosques and schools and homes, Israel only targets the areas where the rockets are coming from, and indeed pre-warns with mass SMS messages and leaflet drops before a pin-point targeting campaign. War is Hell - however by the dirty tactics of Hamas the hell goes on. Hamas has no qualms about the human shield issue. In fact they are proud because it makes Israel look bad if children are in the way once a pre-warning of a boming mission is carried out and started. Hamas plus other similar factions in the area are to blame for this mayhem.
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Jan 15, 2012 12:24 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
.... and our present puppet of the same forces who still control us:

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Jan 15, 2012 12:25 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
NCC1968: I'm about ready to take a piss



What is this, Facebook? You have to tell the world about your bodily functions in a post?

laugh
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Jan 15, 2012 12:28 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
johnaustin123: Wow!

The video was updated Jan 24, 2009

Things change and then goes back to the same old, same old. The vicious circle of Politics. I posted the date so that everyone would know that it's 3 years old. History repeats itself.


Hi John - really your sources are not the best. A couple of days ago you posted a video stating that muslims and Jews pray the same and I pointed out your video was flawed. Then just now you state that video was from the occupied territories. You ought to know for certain that the video is not from the occupied terrorities but that video was from Gaza - which of course has not been under Israeli rule since 2005 so your video stating Gaza is occupied in 2009 is flawed too. I have many many videos which show the madness of lies, deceit etc against Israel, and really if you want to know more, just message me and I will point you in the right direction, but if not it would be best to make sure your videos do not show misinformation.
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Jan 15, 2012 12:29 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
Wow_Factor: I think the Israelis are restrained considering what they have to cope with on a daily basis. But yes, of course, it is an ongoing cycle. However whereas Israel's enemies actually target civilians which is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention, plus they also allow young children to fire weapons, use human shields, fire from mosques and schools and homes, Israel only targets the areas where the rockets are coming from, and indeed pre-warns with mass SMS messages and leaflet drops before a pin-point targeting campaign. War is Hell - however by the dirty tactics of Hamas the hell goes on. Hamas has no qualms about the human shield issue. In fact they are proud because it makes Israel look bad if children are in the way once a pre-warning of a boming mission is carried out and started. Hamas plus other similar factions in the area are to blame for this mayhem.

yes but talking about Gasa, the Hamas choose a path of continued violence, i wasn't talking about there, was about Israel and southern Lebanon and the west bank. What Almott did displayed a path of non-violence worked, then America framed Almott a pet clown took Almott's place
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Jan 15, 2012 12:32 AM CST violation of the First Geneva Convention
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
hijack... another thread hijacked by Wow to Israel. roll eyes
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