Are newspaper sources above the law?? ( Archived) (19)

Feb 17, 2012 12:00 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
I ask this after reading the following news item on the BBC, Do you think a news source, who has pertinent information regarding a serious court case, should remain anonymous?
My opinion, is that if the information is true, with real facts, then they should be made to come forward, if this factual information was obtained illegally, then they should face the consequences.

What do you think?

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Feb 17, 2012 1:51 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
So no one has an opinion dunno
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Feb 17, 2012 2:14 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
In response to: I ask this after reading the following news item on the BBC, Do you think a news source, who has pertinent information regarding a serious court case, should remain anonymous?
My opinion, is that if the information is true, with real facts, then they should be made to come forward, if this factual information was obtained illegally, then they should face the consequences.

What do you think?

Not sure that Phone-Hacking has anything to do with protecting one's Sources!
The Info was definitely not obtained from the Victims voluntarily!
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Feb 17, 2012 2:14 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
rizlared: I ask this after reading the following news item on the BBC, Do you think a news source, who has pertinent information regarding a serious court case, should remain anonymous?
My opinion, is that if the information is true, with real facts, then they should be made to come forward, if this factual information was obtained illegally, then they should face the consequences.

What do you think?


In a perfect world that would be as you say however, nobody would ever say anything to a reporter as it would virtually be the same as telling the police or court the same thing so, it would tend to dissuade sources from saying anything.wine
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Feb 17, 2012 3:48 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Conrad73: Not sure that Phone-Hacking has anything to do with protecting one's Sources!
The Info was definitely not obtained from the Victims voluntarily!

Exactly, therefore someone is responsible and should say sowine
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Feb 17, 2012 3:56 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Albertaghost: In a perfect world that would be as you say however, nobody would ever say anything to a reporter as it would virtually be the same as telling the police or court the same thing so, it would tend to dissuade sources from saying anything.

Yes of course, and then, maybe we would get real journalism, with real fact rather than hyped up untrustworthy news stories.
There will always be whistle blowers, maybe if they found their names would be in print they would ensure the facts are true and perhaps, more importantly, actually something people want to read and know about.
Invading someones privacy just to be able to print their private conversation, is hardly newsworthy.
Seems to me that if someone openly gives information such as Wiki-leaks, they are belittle and regarded as scum, yet those who hide behind a secret wall are considered heros. IMO
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Feb 17, 2012 4:43 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
rizlared: I ask this after reading the following news item on the BBC, Do you think a news source, who has pertinent information regarding a serious court case, should remain anonymous?
My opinion, is that if the information is true, with real facts, then they should be made to come forward, if this factual information was obtained illegally, then they should face the consequences.

What do you think?



They are not above the Law but thank God they can feel protected by anonymity.
Thanks to whistle-blowers our society has and is quickly waking up to what governments and authorities are doing to our planet and civilization.
Thanks to them we know how evil tobacco companies have been, we know there were no WMD's in Iraq, we know Iran is years away from completing their Nuke Program, we know about HAARP and DARPA, about how Tibet lost its sovereignty, about Lady Diana and her boyfriend's murder, about all the financial underhanded deals that brought the banking house of cards tumbling down and about how they are trying to make every single human being on the planet and our descendants responsible for their Fiat money fiasco, about the Bush family's behind-closed-door deals with Middle-East oil-rich families and on and on and on....
Yes, thank God for the unmentioned sources and whistle-blowers.
They shouldn't be above the Law but their anonymity should be protected. It's the only thing that stands between the destruction the powers that be wish to inflict on our civilization and our knowledge of it.
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Feb 17, 2012 5:43 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Kristia49
Kristia49Kristia49toowoomba, Queensland Australia31 Threads 2,039 Posts
Mermaidon: They are not above the Law but thank God they can feel protected by anonymity.
Thanks to whistle-blowers our society has and is quickly waking up to what governments and authorities are doing to our planet and civilization.
Thanks to them we know how evil tobacco companies have been, we know there were no WMD's in Iraq, we know Iran is years away from completing their Nuke Program, we know about HAARP and DARPA, about how Tibet lost its sovereignty, about Lady Diana and her boyfriend's murder, about all the financial underhanded deals that brought the banking house of cards tumbling down and about how they are trying to make every single human being on the planet and our descendants responsible for their Fiat money fiasco, about the Bush family's behind-closed-door deals with Middle-East oil-rich families and on and on and on....
Yes, thank God for the unmentioned sources and whistle-blowers.
They shouldn't be above the Law but their anonymity should be protected. It's the only thing that stands between the destruction the powers that be wish to inflict on our civilization and our knowledge of it.

They think and act like they above the law, and seems to me they do. Shame.barf
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Feb 17, 2012 5:47 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
Kristia49: They think and act like they above the law, and seems to me they do. Shame.


laugh
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Feb 17, 2012 5:48 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
rizlared: I ask this after reading the following news item on the BBC, Do you think a news source, who has pertinent information regarding a serious court case, should remain anonymous?
My opinion, is that if the information is true, with real facts, then they should be made to come forward, if this factual information was obtained illegally, then they should face the consequences.

What do you think?

all,i know,congress is above the law/insider trading,etc.
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Feb 17, 2012 6:09 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
reb56: all,i know,congress is above the law/insider trading,etc.

Oh, have you heard? The thieves have passed laws that permits them to inside-trade now laugh
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Feb 17, 2012 6:12 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Mermaidon: Oh, have you heard? The thieves have passed laws that permits them to inside-trade now
actually that Law is supposed to prevent it,but it has Holes in it big enough to drive an Eighteen-Wheeler through them!laugh
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Feb 17, 2012 6:36 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
Conrad73: actually that Law is supposed to prevent it,but it has Holes in it big enough to drive an Eighteen-Wheeler through them!

Semi-trucks loaded with Fiat money laugh
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Feb 17, 2012 6:40 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
RedSpaceDuck
RedSpaceDuckRedSpaceDuckUmbongo Land, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 61 Posts
rizlared: I ask this after reading the following news item on the BBC, Do you think a news source, who has pertinent information regarding a serious court case, should remain anonymous?
My opinion, is that if the information is true, with real facts, then they should be made to come forward, if this factual information was obtained illegally, then they should face the consequences.

What do you think?



I would disagree with your opinion. Whistleblowers need to remain anoymous or often it would ruin their lives. Exposing whistleblowers would allow more secrets to remain secrets.
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Feb 17, 2012 9:14 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Mermaidon: They are not above the Law but thank God they can feel protected by anonymity.
Thanks to whistle-blowers our society has and is quickly waking up to what governments and authorities are doing to our planet and civilization.
Thanks to them we know how evil tobacco companies have been, we know there were no WMD's in Iraq, we know Iran is years away from completing their Nuke Program, we know about HAARP and DARPA, about how Tibet lost its sovereignty, about Lady Diana and her boyfriend's murder, about all the financial underhanded deals that brought the banking house of cards tumbling down and about how they are trying to make every single human being on the planet and our descendants responsible for their Fiat money fiasco, about the Bush family's behind-closed-door deals with Middle-East oil-rich families and on and on and on....
Yes, thank God for the unmentioned sources and whistle-blowers.
They shouldn't be above the Law but their anonymity should be protected. It's the only thing that stands between the destruction the powers that be wish to inflict on our civilization and our knowledge of it.


thumbs up Well said.... even tho Murdock is slime.
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Feb 17, 2012 9:21 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
gininitaly: Well said.... even tho Murdock is slime.


I'd never think of defending Murdock, unless he pays me for it rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 18, 2012 9:09 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Mermaidon: They are not above the Law but thank God they can feel protected by anonymity.
Thanks to whistle-blowers our society has and is quickly waking up to what governments and authorities are doing to our planet and civilization.
Thanks to them we know how evil tobacco companies have been, we know there were no WMD's in Iraq, we know Iran is years away from completing their Nuke Program, we know about HAARP and DARPA, about how Tibet lost its sovereignty, about Lady Diana and her boyfriend's murder, about all the financial underhanded deals that brought the banking house of cards tumbling down and about how they are trying to make every single human being on the planet and our descendants responsible for their Fiat money fiasco, about the Bush family's behind-closed-door deals with Middle-East oil-rich families and on and on and on....
Yes, thank God for the unmentioned sources and whistle-blowers.
They shouldn't be above the Law but their anonymity should be protected. It's the only thing that stands between the destruction the powers that be wish to inflict on our civilization and our knowledge of it.

Sorry for the delay in response, internet is not so good in CN!!

I take your point, and, when the information is regarding national security I wholeheartedly agree, but here we are talking about eavesdropping on the likes of Paul McCartney speaking to his wife FFS, this is not gathering news on suspected terrorism, but trying to find dirt on a well known person, I believe that when an individuals privacy is broken into, for exploitation reasons rather real security matters, then those who have carried it out and those who condoned it, should be made to be accountable. wine
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Feb 18, 2012 9:32 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
RedSpaceDuck: I would disagree with your opinion. Whistleblowers need to remain anoymous or often it would ruin their lives. Exposing whistleblowers would allow more secrets to remain secrets.
we're not talking about Whistleblowing here,but about illegally gathered Info on People to be published as News!
Buy paying off Police,Politicians,and breaking into Phones and Computers!
Stuff that's even forbidden to Government-Agencies without the proper Court-Permissions!
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Feb 18, 2012 10:34 AM CST Are newspaper sources above the law??
mustbnutz
mustbnutzmustbnutzKingman, Arizona USA33 Threads 5 Polls 3,730 Posts
Conrad73: we're not talking about Whistleblowing here,but about illegally gathered Info on People to be published as News!
Buy paying off Police,Politicians,and breaking into Phones and Computers!
Stuff that's even forbidden to Government-Agencies without the proper Court-Permissions!



You obviously are right on Conrad. There is a world of difference between anonymity and illegally obtaining information and then printing it as "news".
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