What Really Is "Baggage"??? (27)

Nov 12, 2006 7:47 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Was reading these threads in the int'l forum...and couldn't find one here so thought i'd start one...

What, in your opinion, constitutes "baggage" as it pertains to relationships/marriages??
Nov 12, 2006 9:07 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
shyatfirst
shyatfirstshyatfirstcobourg, Ontario Canada22 Threads 1,462 Posts
To me, "baggage" are problems/issues from whatever past relationship which haven't been dealt with. What would stand in the way of a "healthy" new relationship...
Nov 12, 2006 9:41 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
ontarioman
ontariomanontariomanKawartha lakes, Canada13 Threads 561 Posts
Tell me Urs... what is it?..In your opinion?professor
Nov 12, 2006 9:56 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Hey Bobby....I have always disliked when i saw that people said the didn't want "baggage"...because i have always viewed it not so much as "baggage" as i have "life"...and life happens...

I have in the past made the comment that "baggage" is unresolved issues that is carried over...and I like what Angela said..when it prevents a person from having a "healthy" new relationship...and thought i have said it...and believed it...I don't think I truly understood it...

We all have "pasts"..that's a given...and because i waited almost 6 years to be ready to "date"...i just naturally assumed the majority of people, but closure to their past and move on...

Just wondering what other people's opinion is on this Bobby, and how they arrived at their conclusion...
Nov 12, 2006 10:01 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
ontarioman
ontariomanontariomanKawartha lakes, Canada13 Threads 561 Posts
That sounds like you...I think I have read that...to me, the baggage is always there with everyone, especially with children involved.
I just dislike it when the it becomes such a dragged on drama.
Nov 12, 2006 10:08 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
But wouldn't the "dragged on drama" only occur if a person allows it to??

I mean people are going to talk..things are going to be taken out of context..and sides will be taken in a relationship breakup...I guess it can be expected...and though some of it may be painful, and hurtful...you do have to reach a point where you kind of throw your hands up and say...you know what...I no longer have to justify myself...that is the "drama" i'm talking about...is that what you mean Bobby??...or is there something else?
Nov 12, 2006 10:18 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
ontarioman
ontariomanontariomanKawartha lakes, Canada13 Threads 561 Posts
The drama I am talking about is associated with people not leaving the past in the past, and make the changes you wish to make, so, as to have that "healthy" relationship. It is good when you throw the hands up, but, then , carry it thru, and get on with the cards that have been dealt to you, re-stack the deck sort of ...confused
Nov 13, 2006 6:39 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Makes sense to me...thanks for the input!!hug


Have a great day....
Nov 13, 2006 7:18 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
shyatfirst
shyatfirstshyatfirstcobourg, Ontario Canada22 Threads 1,462 Posts
That is a great way of putting it.....
Nov 13, 2006 7:25 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
chubbster
chubbsterchubbsterStirling, Central, Scotland UK1 Threads 4 Posts
I agree. Everyone has baggage, some to a greater and others to a lesser extent. But, if they are stopping you moving forward this is excess baggage. After all, we all have a past, it should be the future that counts!
Nov 13, 2006 7:26 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Well said...handshake
Nov 13, 2006 7:31 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
shyatfirst
shyatfirstshyatfirstcobourg, Ontario Canada22 Threads 1,462 Posts
Would be scary to meet people who don't have "baggage"......
Nov 13, 2006 9:11 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
arthurdent
arthurdentarthurdentspamilton, Ontario Canada13 Threads 490 Posts
Shyatfirst, (Angela?) makes a good point: who really doesn't have baggage to some degree? In our ever changing lives new crises occur and challenge us to deal with them and to "remove" the baggage; past issues rear their ugly heads when we thought they were gone.

After taking years to deal with my own skeletons I like look at it this way:

Closing the door on the past or repressing memories is a dangerous route as no matter what, triggers will occur that will open that door again. It will happen, and dealing with the issue down the road will only be harder than if dealt with at the time.

Take that baggage then, reflect upon it and learn from it. We have the ability to grow and become a better person by realizing that events cannot be changed but there is always some way to learn and grow from them.

I can honestly say, that some of the best years of my life were those spent clawing my way back from the depths for they have changed my outlook on life and more importantly my outlook of myself.

The door can be kept open then, to reflect on the positive changes that have occured from the past rather than dwelling on the "what if's".

I once heard it said that it's not the baggage but how it is carried.

I sincerely hope that I haven't been too profound for a somewhat new poster to this site...

grin
Nov 13, 2006 9:11 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
Lillyofthevalley
LillyofthevalleyLillyofthevalleySt John's, Newfoundland Canada38 Threads 3,152 Posts
Anything from your past that hinders you in having a future you desire.
Nov 13, 2006 9:22 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
Many people have " no baggage " listed in profiles, however, if they have no baggage themselves, they obviously have not been living life as we know it on this planet.

Emotional-lingering feelings left over from the last or past relationships with other partners. This does not mean that a new partner must be totally void of feelings from the past, just not using those feelings as a means of entering into a new relationship. ( jealousy, vendictive or using new unguided emotional attachment out of need )

Financial-bills, credit cards, mortgages, business ventures and alimony/child support. Most marriages will end with some or all of these financial attachments.

A child is not a BAG !

Just a few notes from the mind of Cat.
Nov 13, 2006 9:26 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
Lillyofthevalley
LillyofthevalleyLillyofthevalleySt John's, Newfoundland Canada38 Threads 3,152 Posts
"A child is not a BAG !"

I know a newly married woman who would not agree with you...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 13, 2006 11:22 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
Jonquille
JonquilleJonquillePeace is its own reward, Ontario Canada98 Threads 897 Posts
hug nice one Bob
Nov 13, 2006 11:22 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
...." once heard it said that it's not the baggage but how it is carried."...

I like that...thumbs up
Nov 13, 2006 2:31 PM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
N_of_Rockapulco
N_of_RockapulcoN_of_RockapulcoBorden, Ontario Canada1 Threads 167 Posts
Well put!

I don't necessarily agree that emotional upheavals would be the "best years" of my life, but I kind of see what you're saying. The last time I had my heart broken was the worst ever and I don't regret having those feelings because it still makes you feel something instead of having felt nothing at all. It certainly makes life interesting at times.

This topic reminds me of the tale I pinned to my bulletin board of an old Cherokee telling his grandson about the two wolves who battle within all people.
One is evil and full of anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, resentment, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, false pride, lies, superiority, and ego.
The other is good and full of joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.
When the grandson asks which wolf wins, the old Cherokee replies, "The one you feed."

I think the baggage we carry only shows when the evil wolf is winning.
Nov 27, 2006 9:33 AM CST What Really Is "Baggage"???
John1966
John1966John1966Calgary, Alberta Canada16 Threads 143 Posts
"Baggage" (to me) is what you consider something wasteful and disappointing.wink
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