Second Chances... (55)

Jul 30, 2012 3:57 PM CST Second Chances...
irishminxi
irishminxiirishminxiKildare, Dublin Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 562 Posts
Glengirl: If you can't trust the person you're with, you shouldn't be there.


Exactly thumbs up
Jul 30, 2012 3:57 PM CST Second Chances...
Alpina84
Alpina84Alpina84Limerick, Ireland6 Posts
Glengirl: If you can't trust the person you're with, you shouldn't be there.


True
Jul 30, 2012 4:05 PM CST Second Chances...
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
granuaile: So say for argument sake, you were in a really good relationship with someone for a number of years, before the addiction took hold, then what you don't try to help them, you kick them out to touch, tell them they're on their own.


That's a real ecumenical question there. So they chose to pursue gambling, drugs or alcohol to the point of addiction while you though you were having a 'really good relationship' with them? Relationships are dynamic. If one partner decides they are gay or want to be a monk then it's over. If one parther decides to pursue a life of addiction, same thing, it's over.
Jul 30, 2012 4:06 PM CST Second Chances...
tusiemc: absolutely macca your so special and an exception to the rule


Ah but i'd never do it in the first place, i tend to learn from my mistakes conversing

Another question...

Would you go out with someone that has cheated in the past...more than once dunno
Jul 30, 2012 4:12 PM CST Second Chances...
Glengirl
GlengirlGlengirlConvoy, Donegal Ireland54 Threads 2 Polls 5,560 Posts
mcattack: Ah but i'd never do it in the first place, i tend to learn from my mistakes

Another question...

Would you go out with someone that has cheated in the past...more than once


Jeez Macca, what's with all the questions? Are you the cheater or the cheatee? laugh

This time last year (exactly a year ago this Friday wink), someone I have know most of my life decided we "belonged" together!!! For as long as I have known him, he has been a serial cheater, so it that case, no, I wouldn't date him.

Other than that, it would depend on the circumstances......did he cheat on people years ago but has since grown up??? Case by case scenario dunno
Jul 30, 2012 4:14 PM CST Second Chances...
tusiemc
tusiemctusiemcKildare, Ireland102 Threads 1 Polls 2,123 Posts
mcattack: Ah but i'd never do it in the first place, i tend to learn from my mistakes

Another question...

Would you go out with someone that has cheated in the past...more than once


jeez do you have an easier questions?!

I think someone's past is their past we've all done things (not necessarily cheating) that were not proud of but as long as they have learned their lesson and treat me right then yes I would and completely base it on our relationship in the now..if you know what I meangrin
Jul 30, 2012 4:20 PM CST Second Chances...
Glengirl: Jeez Macca, what's with all the questions? Are you the cheater or the cheatee?

This time last year (exactly a year ago this Friday ), someone I have know most of my life decided we "belonged" together!!! For as long as I have known him, he has been a serial cheater, so it that case, no, I wouldn't date him.

Other than that, it would depend on the circumstances......did he cheat on people years ago but has since grown up??? Case by case scenario


I'm only reading what's on the cards in front of me dunno laugh

Ah no but seriously yeah i've cheated before and really hurt people, got back together with the person but it was never the same after that, she just couldn't get over it, i'd like to think i wouldn't do it again, obviously i can't say i NEVER would, nobody can, but if the shoe was on the other foot and it happened to me then i'd be willing to give someone i loved a second chance and if i wanted to be with them and thought we had a future together then i'd try and make it work
Jul 30, 2012 4:24 PM CST Second Chances...
tusiemc: jeez do you have an easier questions?!

I think someone's past is their past we've all done things (not necessarily cheating) that were not proud of but as long as they have learned their lesson and treat me right then yes I would and completely base it on our relationship in the now..if you know what I mean


Ah sure the harder the better...questions that is grin
Jul 30, 2012 4:25 PM CST Second Chances...
if she cheated then i wouldnt give her a second anything. hell no.
Jul 30, 2012 4:28 PM CST Second Chances...
Seafilly: Cheating may be a single occurrence. An addiction is ongoing.
some people would argue that cheating is an addiction.
Jul 30, 2012 4:29 PM CST Second Chances...
facetowardsfront: That's a real ecumenical question there. So they chose to pursue gambling, drugs or alcohol to the point of addiction while you though you were having a 'really good relationship' with them? Relationships are dynamic. If one partner decides they are gay or want to be a monk then it's over. If one parther decides to pursue a life of addiction, same thing, it's over.

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Jul 30, 2012 4:45 PM CST Second Chances...
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
granuaile: that's all I'm saying a relationship must be worth trying to save, if they don't want your help fair enough, but at least you will have tried, I said
everyone is entitled to a second chance where as you said no not a hope in hell, but now your saying maybe if they came back clean.


Oh they'll take your help alright and they'll say they want to change but they can't and they'll cry about it and tell you how they want the old days back and anything else they have to tell you to keep their addiction support clown in place. Don't be fooled. They only mean it until the next urge to use, which is probably already in their head but they are holding off because they are humouring you. I said maybe if they got clean but that would be an assesment I would only make when they were at least a year clean.
Jul 30, 2012 4:51 PM CST Second Chances...
Seafilly
SeafillySeafillycork, Cork Ireland1 Threads 150 Posts
Maverick147: some people would argue that cheating is an addiction.



I guess in can turn into one.
Jul 30, 2012 4:53 PM CST Second Chances...
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
facetowardsfront: Oh they'll take your help alright and they'll say they want to change but they can't and they'll cry about it and tell you how they want the old days back and anything else they have to tell you to keep their addiction support clown in place. Don't be fooled. They only mean it until the next urge to use, which is probably already in their head but they are holding off because they are humouring you. I said maybe if they got clean but that would be an assesment I would only make when they were at least a year clean.



Which is what I told my ex when he asked if he could come back after 11 weeks sober, we had been married 14 years at that stage and more chances given than I can count (yes I enabled him) anyway, his response was to go out the night I gave him that answer get pissed and call me to threaten suicide and tell me it would be my fault for saying no.

Re the OP, as I get older I find I am more black and white with these things, experience, and no second chances here and I am not just talking about cheating.
Jul 30, 2012 4:54 PM CST Second Chances...
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
mcattack: Do you think everyone deserves a second chance in a relationship or are you the the "once bitten twice shy" type of person??

Now i know the people that have been burned by a cheat before will say "once a cheater always a cheater" and all that craic, i'm all for giving someone a second chance, of course it depends who it was and how i felt about them, but if i loved her then i'd give her a second chance and see if we can rebuild our relationship and start trusting again....well??


Short answer is yes. i'd give a second chance (I'd think about seriously about sticky thirds).
Jul 30, 2012 4:56 PM CST Second Chances...
mcattack: Why though?? have you ever cheated on anyone??

I've been through this before. 3 serious relations, didn't cheat.
Jul 30, 2012 4:58 PM CST Second Chances...
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
MADDOG69: I've been through this before. 3 serious relations, didn't cheat.


MD there's your problem. You have to lose this guilt thingy you have. Basically don't look at it as cheating (it's not cards)..Think of it as keeping the bloodline going.
Jul 30, 2012 5:02 PM CST Second Chances...
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
Glatlol: Which is what I told my ex when he asked if he could come back after 11 weeks sober, we had been married 14 years at that stage and more chances given than I can count (yes I enabled him) anyway, his response was to go out the night I gave him that answer get pissed and call me to threaten suicide and tell me it would be my fault for saying no


Standard! He had probably saved up for a good 'drink' for the 11 weeks and was planning it when he called you. A place to crash, some food etc could have helped him stretch the session to get his levels up. You made the right decision. Hope the treatment is going well for you.
Jul 30, 2012 5:05 PM CST Second Chances...
Seafilly
SeafillySeafillycork, Cork Ireland1 Threads 150 Posts
MADDOG69: I've been through this before. 3 serious relations, didn't cheat.


Fair play.
Jul 30, 2012 5:07 PM CST Second Chances...
Phoenix: MD there's your problem. You have to lose this guilt thingy you have. Basically don't look at it as cheating (it's not cards)..Think of it as keeping the bloodline going.
It isn't guilt. I've seen 1st hand what infidelity leads to... broken homes, dreams crushed, futures wrecked. Why would I ever want to be like that?
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