What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story? (49)

Sep 30, 2012 1:35 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
Abagail: So it's a fiction book? For entertainment... I read The Third Policeman for entertainment, but what an incredibly well written book. It was recommended to me because I like Oscar Wilde's work.

Interesting you use the word 'net' so much? To capture, to control... I believe they are only doing what they inherently 'know' ... So the question is, does the government have the right to cull them based on their natural inclination?


Lost is not science fiction, a detective story about a very young girl that disappeared 4 years before the story runs.

And I used the word "net" as being the end result. I grew up on Cronulla Beach and there were always sharks out in the bay, usually way out. About once a year they would get curious and come close to shore and everyone would scramble as the alarm sounded. Then the Surf Clubs would take out the boats to chase them off. Occasionaly there would be a pack out there hunting fish and they would come close to shore. Usually a crap surf so good time to be chatting up the girls while everyone was waiting.dancing

And not into the culling part. Bit like crocs. Sometimes there is one that gets a taste for easy pickings and then it is time to do something about that one. My brother's mate does the shark nets off Sydney. While not 100% in keeping them out, it does deter them. When one gets caught, they usually tow it out to deep water and let it go. Much the same as we would do for any tourist who gets lost.rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 30, 2012 5:52 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Yes, we can't have lost tourists. I went for a crocodile tour in Cairns last year, and the coach driver asked for volunteers as it was crocodile feeding time. Amazingly the tourists take him seriously and ask if they can help.

Times are changing Wash... where once we took responsibility for our actions and accepted that nature should be respected, now we want to control our environment in all areas.

... Isn't Cronulla more dangerous OUT of the water?
Sep 30, 2012 11:12 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
like wash2 i cant remember the author but The Science Delusion.........so many books but this one was great.......very thought provoking!
Oct 1, 2012 1:34 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Still reading picture magazine from couple weeks ago doh Can't stop lookinat pictures blushing especially home girls doh not really into a lot of reading nerd coz seeing is believing heart beating jmo grin
Oct 1, 2012 1:50 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Lookin4missright: Still reading picture magazine from couple weeks ago Can't stop lookinat pictures especially home girls not really into a lot of reading coz seeing is believing jmo


Marc, being from France... I do believe what Lookin' is trying to tell you is that he doesn't read. He just likes to look at smutty photos. grin
Oct 1, 2012 2:04 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Abagail: Marc, being from France... I do believe what Lookin' is trying to tell you is that he doesn't read. He just likes to look at smutty photos.




Pmsl rolling on the floor laughing Sorry Marc hug i like lookin wink australia hijack
























ps, like lookinatyours too abby blushing
Oct 1, 2012 3:17 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
Totally out of reading material atm help

Can't even find any ebooks I'm interested in sigh

Think the library should be open on weekends, like the video shop snooty
Oct 1, 2012 3:50 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
I have a new book called blood Born thriller by Kathryn Fox never read any of her books until now only just into couple chapters so can't say if it's any good ................ will update later on what I think nerd dunno
Oct 1, 2012 4:20 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
curly28: I have a new book called blood Born thriller by Kathryn Fox never read any of her books until now only just into couple chapters so can't say if it's any good ................ will update later on what I think


One of my favourite authors is a fellow called Len Beadell who passed away in 1995. He wrote 6 books about incidents that happened to him while he was engaged by the Aust Govt to explore and make roads in Central Australia.

It makes you realise some of the hardships we Aussies were going through less than 60 years ago. Today, we have bitumen roads while he was out there putting in the roads. Although they are still dirt these days. But he opened up so much of Australia for people to get there.

I do recall being in school when the teacher told us about a fellow who had met an Aborigine tribe who had never seem a white man before. And that was less than 60 years ago.
Oct 1, 2012 10:36 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010
Marc2010Marc2010Paris, Ile-de-France France16 Threads 75 Posts
Abagail: Times are changing Wash... where once we took responsibility for our actions and accepted that nature should be respected, now we want to control our environment in all areas...


Hi Abagail and Wash. I agree with that. Nature MUST be respected. That's obvious. Let's the White Sharks live in their own area. That's also obvious. Kind regards.
Oct 1, 2012 6:54 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Lookin4missright: Pmsl Sorry Marc i like lookin
ps, like lookinatyours too abby


However, unlike your home girls... I tend to have all my photographs clothed. wink

...so you can look as much as you like, Lookin'. I will still respect you in the morning.
Oct 1, 2012 6:55 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010: Hi Abagail and Wash. I agree with that. Nature MUST be respected. That's obvious. Let's the White Sharks live in their own area. That's also obvious. Kind regards.


I was wondering what your view on this was, Marc. I do agree that a shark that continues to be a nuisance should be dealt with... because guys on surfboards could become their obvious choice for a culinary treat... but they are doing what their instinct drives them to do.
Oct 1, 2012 7:27 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
Lookin4missright: Still reading picture magazine from couple weeks ago Can't stop lookinat pictures especially home girls not really into a lot of reading coz seeing is believing jmo



scold Naughtiest boy laugh You are gunna get real sore ...... eyes I mean > nerd hope your wearing glasses while your looking Mr L at shimmy shimmy shimmy shimmy easter bonnet Hey!<<< shock How did she get in there rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 2, 2012 8:27 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
Cant remember when I last read a booksigh I have a huge bookcase that is full and I have read most of the books in it from different times in my life .
Hmmm lets see... Gardening books,Breeding the Racehorse lots of them (that in itself is an exact science)'James Herriot the whole series,Biographies from Winston Churchill to David Niven,to name but a few........

Now I follow Politics but from the last few months I seriously wonder why, its more childish and mean than primary school bullying....at the moment I am reading about that pumped up little twerp Alan Jones.. hope he gets what is coming to him.

Reading with amazement that Ten Thousand people marched for that poor girl Jill Meagher who was murdered (power of the brainwashing press brought the Herd syndrome out en masse) it was terrible of course' but never seen this happen with a murder victim before' shades of Lady Diana methinks.

The more I read about the daily goings on in Aus the more Cynical I become 'and that is not a good thing as it is all about manipulation and greed.
The Media can brainwash Joe Public to do anything they want ...food for thought.


confused confused blues
Oct 2, 2012 12:22 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010
Marc2010Marc2010Paris, Ile-de-France France16 Threads 75 Posts
wash2u: ...And back to sharks. They are just a feding machine, brain is only aimed at getting food. Net result is that they are at the top of their food chain. Net result is that they are heavily loaded with Mercury.


Hi Wash. Here is a very recent video of stupid young guys in Dumbéa, South New Caledonia, exciting a White Shark fom their small boat...

Article in French and Video:

Original Video (30 September 2012) :
Oct 3, 2012 7:50 PM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
Lookin4missright: *.*.*.*. YES! *.*.*.*.


ps, does hand count
it depends....do you have to take your hand on a date before you seduce her?or is it a him?
Oct 4, 2012 7:27 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010
Marc2010Marc2010Paris, Ile-de-France France16 Threads 75 Posts
Abagail: Interesting... the timing of the film, I mean. Fear is a great activator in most people. I hope this doesn't lead our Western Australian government to make the wrong decision.


Hi Abagail. Yes, there are other opportunities of interest. Please have a look at this article about websuits:



"...A new wetsuit is being developed to deter sharks
Posted 3 October 2012, 18:39 AEST

A number of wetsuits are being developed by researchers which they hope will make surfers unattractive to sharks.

A research team from the University of Western Australia and University of Queensland has found that sharks are highly visual animals but are probably colour blind.

It has found the animals see colours in shades of grey.

UWA assistant professor Nathan Hart says this information could prove useful.

"Sharks are highly visual animals but the world they see lacks colour and will appear as shades of grey like we see when we watch a black and white movie," he said.

"It may be possible to use this knowledge to change the way a shark reacts to certain objects.

"It may also lead to better design of equipment such as wetsuits and surfboards that reduce the risk of shark attack."

The need is urgent after five fatal shark attacks in WA in less than a year.

UWA's Professor Shaun Collin says they plan to create a wetsuit, using particular patterns, that would make the wearer look unappealing to sharks.

"It makes the wearer appear obnoxious, poisonous or unattractive to the shark, somewhat like a sea snake," said.

"Some species do not typically target these types of patterns on other animals."

The team is also investigating another method to prevent attacks from White Pointers, the breed believed to be responsible for the majority of attacks off the West Australian coast.

Professor Collin says they're working on a wetsuit that would make the wearer look less like a seal, the species' favourite food.

"White pointers generally attack from below so with a lighter background some of their food sources, such as seals, cast a very distinct and high contrast silhouette," he said.
Personal protection

The owner of Dunsborough's Yahoo Surfboard Company, Mark Hills, says there would definitely be a demand for the prototype suit.

The 46-year-old is a surfer himself and has been for 38 years.

"Every surfer has a wetsuit so if it's a situation that it's striped or coloured in such a fashion that it's a preventative against sharks, then I can guarantee you every surfer will be wanting to buy one," he said.

Mr Hills says he's heard of a number of products that have either been trialled or retailed to protect beach goers.

"A Hawaiian-based company that is tied up in dive and surf made a dive suit that stops a shark being able to hear your heartbeat so immediately you become invisible.

"35 per cent of a shark's head is dedicated to being able to hear your heart."

He says there have also been stories of surfers drawing sets of eyes on their boards in an attempt to scare off a potential predator.

"A shark can understand the distance between a gap and an eye and so the bigger the game, the bigger the fish apparently," he said.

And, a range of electronic devices have been retailed in Australia, including a small device that can be attached to a surfboard leash and sends out an electric pulse.

Its maker claims that pulse short-circuits the gel in a shark's nose and deters those within a six metre range.

Mr Hills says despite the growing market for shark deterrents, there's still an element of luck about being attacked.

"I still haven't seen a shark in the water but the one that will get you is the one you can't see," he said..."
Oct 4, 2012 8:15 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010
Marc2010Marc2010Paris, Ile-de-France France16 Threads 75 Posts
Abagail: Anthropomorphism is something other people do, not me. I do not believe we can accredit a shark with 'good' or 'bad' characteristics.They are doing what they naturally do. However, their habits concern some people... so I can see why the subsequent cull. Is it right or wrong? I was never put in the position to decide and I truly do not have enough information to base an evaluation on the situation.


Here is the impressive thought of Paul Watson about the new WA Sharks policy at:



"...Captain Paul Watson: Fear and Loathing of Sharks in Western Australia

Commentary by Captain Paul Watson,
Founder and President of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society

I was a surfer in the sixties and seventies and I don’t recall a single moment that I ever felt afraid of sharks — the beautiful and unique creatures that Western Australian Premier Colin Barnett is now condemning. I don’t think Barnett was ever a surfer.

Real surfers not only love the ocean, they also understand it. They understand the complex inter-relationships between species, and if they love and understand the ocean they also love and understand sharks.

No, I simply cannot see Barnett astride a surfboard.

He was most likely one of those poor timid souls who sat on the beach, traumatized by having seen the Spielberg travesty called Jaws.

This week, this same premier of Western Australia issued a shark-hating Fatah, calling for their total annihilation.

This was simply an opportunistic knee-jerk reaction to media histrionics over the deaths of five surfers this year.

Yes it is a tragedy that these five surfers died, and it is sadly true that shark attacks have increased, although relatively by very little, but instead of responding with a hysterical nonsensical pogrom on sharks, maybe the Premier should have taken a serious look at why there has been a slight increase in shark attacks and taken measures to solve the problem without causing blanket damage to bio-diversity in our oceans.

Barnett holds a degree in economics and majored in statistics so he should certainly understand that statistically shark attacks and fatalities are not that frequent and make these animals less dangerous to the public than ostriches, dogs, chimpanzees, elephants, mosquitoes, bees, ants, wasps, deer, horses, cows, and jellyfish.

Statistically the chances of dying in an automobile accident are astronomically greater than being killed by a shark, and there is a far greater possibility of being struck by lightning while playing golf than of being attacked by a shark at the beach.

When it comes to dangerous sports, surfing has far fewer risk factors than golfing, mountain climbing, hiking, hang-gliding, horseback riding, skiing, swimming, scuba diving, boxing or skate-boarding.

Statistically, sharks are simply not a serious factor affecting human mortality compared to almost every other human activity including the fact that on average twenty Australians die each year falling out of bed and another five died while getting into their bathtubs.

On the other hand, we humans slaughter some 70 million sharks annually primarily to supply a few affluent Chinese with a bowl of tasteless soup.

The truth is that hatred of sharks is a manufactured hysteria thanks primarily, although I’m sure without malice, to Steven Spielberg, who resurrected a long-extinct Megalodon shark as a vicious killing machine in Jaws. The notion of such a shark living today is as fictitious as being attacked in modern times by a Tyrannosaurus Rex.

Targeting Great White sharks means targeting an endangered species and is no different than calling for the extermination of tigers, rhinos, and whales. This is the same kind of shallow-thinking, ecologically ignorant mentality that was responsible for the extinction of the Tasmanian tiger..."
Oct 4, 2012 8:53 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010: Here is the impressive thought of Paul Watson about the new WA Sharks policy at:



Targeting Great White sharks means targeting an endangered species and is no different than calling for the extermination of tigers, rhinos, and whales. This is the same kind of shallow-thinking, ecologically ignorant mentality that was responsible for the extinction of the Tasmanian tiger..."
This is brilliantly written Marc, and I am wondering if the politician is trying scare monger tactics, to incite people to side with him. I would hope that the average Australian is clever enough to realise that this is what he is doing.

No country is innocent with attrocities ...but I think this extermination of sharks would be a travesty if it were to occur.

It seems that you are following the subject with care... is this being talked about in France?
Oct 4, 2012 11:49 AM CST What book or newspaper are you reading? What's the story?
Marc2010
Marc2010Marc2010Paris, Ile-de-France France16 Threads 75 Posts
Abagail: It seems that you are following the subject with care... is this being talked about in France?


Yes, this is being talked in French Islands: La réunion (Indian Ocean) and New caledonia (Pacific Ocean).

The problem is aslo the same in South Madagascar and Maurice Island where many French speaking citizens live and have surfing.

I have provided a link above, about a very recent video viewed more than 280,000 times on Youtube: stupid guys exciting a shark in Dumbéa...
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