Alireza711 (450)

Alireza711: salam merri
did you know that this famous poet is Shirazian??

another translation version of that poetry
The poem is translated by A.Marandi as:

Humans are peers of a united race,
Thus in creation, share the same base.
If one is affected with pain,
Others share the faith of same.
When you are indifferent to this pain,
You shall not earn the Humans' name.

Also translated by M. Aryanpoor as:

Human beings are members of a whole,
In creation of one essence and soul.
If one member is afflicted with pain,
Other members uneasy will remain.
If you've no sympathy for human pain,
The name of human you cannot retain!

by H. Vahid Dastjerdi as:

Adam's sons are body limbs, to say;
For they're created of the same clay.
Should one organ be troubled by pain,
Others would suffer severe strain.
Thou, careless of people's suffering,
Deserve not the name, "human being".

and the last translation by Dr. Iraj Bashiri:

Of One Essence is the Human Race,
Thusly has Creation put the Base.
One Limb impacted is sufficient,
For all Others to feel the Mace.
The Unconcern'd with Others' Plight,
Are but Brutes with Human Face.

The translations above are attempts to preserve the rhyme scheme of the original while translating into English, but may distort the meaning. What follows is an attempt at a more literal translation of the original Persian:

"Humans (children of Adam) are inherent parts (or more literally, limbs) of one body,
and are from the same essence in their creation.
When the conditions of the time hurts one of these parts,
other parts will be disturbed.
If you are indifferent about the misery of others,
it may not be appropriate to call you a human being."

Alireza711: salam merri
did you know that this famous poet is Shirazian??

another translation version of that poetry
The poem is translated by A.Marandi as:

Humans are peers of a united race,
Thus in creation, share the same base.
If one is affected with pain,
Others share the faith of same.
When you are indifferent to this pain,
You shall not earn the Humans' name.

Also translated by M. Aryanpoor as:

Human beings are members of a whole,
In creation of one essence and soul.
If one member is afflicted with pain,
Other members uneasy will remain.
If you've no sympathy for human pain,
The name of human you cannot retain!

by H. Vahid Dastjerdi as:

Adam's sons are body limbs, to say;
For they're created of the same clay.
Should one organ be troubled by pain,
Others would suffer severe strain.
Thou, careless of people's suffering,
Deserve not the name, "human being".

and the last translation by Dr. Iraj Bashiri:

Of One Essence is the Human Race,
Thusly has Creation put the Base.
One Limb impacted is sufficient,
For all Others to feel the Mace.
The Unconcern'd with Others' Plight,
Are but Brutes with Human Face.

The translations above are attempts to preserve the rhyme scheme of the original while translating into English, but may distort the meaning. What follows is an attempt at a more literal translation of the original Persian:

"Humans (children of Adam) are inherent parts (or more literally, limbs) of one body,
and are from the same essence in their creation.
When the conditions of the time hurts one of these parts,
other parts will be disturbed.
If you are indifferent about the misery of others,
it may not be appropriate to call you a human being."

Merriweather: I think I also need to say...

I feel sorry for the Garden! by Forough F. /foru:gh/.

is a very sad story... but it fits with the way the world is now.

In almost every country, the gardens are drying up... and individually we are becoming disinterested in creating wonders and just letting everything we have,... had... ruin away...

Our gardens are becoming dust bowls and our minds are joining in... maybe... sometimes..

Alireza711: Forugh Farrokhzad was an Iranian poet and film director. Forugh Farrokhzad is arguably one of Iran's most influential female poets of the twentieth century. She was a controversial modernist poet and an iconoclast.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forough_Farrokhzad
Her brother was named (Fereydoun Farrokhzad)Fereydoun Farrokhzad PhD. (Persian: ???? ?????? ?????? ?) (October 7, 1938 - August 8, 1992) was a legendary Iranian singer, actor, poet, TV and radio host, writer, and opposition political figure. He was the younger brother of the acclaimed Persian poet Forough Farrokhzad.

these two sister and brother are in the Iranian people heart for ever.
now you see Merri Its a long time that Iranian are struggling to get freedom but not achieved yet

Merriweather: Salaam Ali
asr bekheir or for you it may be baad ars zohr bekheir...

Khoobi ?Nah Khoobam for me.

never mind..

but I have spent about 2 hrs practicing Alef, B, P T , se, jim, che , he.. and the six short and long vowels that go with them...
I was working out ways to remember them... so for now... I have made up little phrases that mean something to me...

You would so laugh tho... this learning to write ... is funny... just like a child I tend to do the letters really big... and then I catch myself... and laugh at myself.

so b has one dot under ya bum.
P has a triangle of drips under ya bum. peeeee.
T has 2 dots ... tom has 2 eyes in his head..
and so on...

but my favourite funny face is che... looks like a little face with a bad hairdo... lol


I have to try anything to remember this... no disrespect intended..

so when I became tired of writing and learning, I hopped into the translated poetry and read the stories... so nice...

Alireza711: salam merri
chera khoob nisti?(why you don't feel good?
if you want to say I'm not good = man khoob nistam
I should admire you to start learning about alphabet.
may be you think is difficult but keep trying,I'm looking forward to speak with you farsi some day

Alireza711:
The translations above are attempts to preserve the rhyme scheme of the original while translating into English, but may distort the meaning. What follows is an attempt at a more literal translation of the original Persian:

"Humans (children of Adam) are inherent parts (or more literally, limbs) of one body,
and are from the same essence in their creation.
When the conditions of the time hurts one of these parts,
other parts will be disturbed.
If you are indifferent about the misery of others,
it may not be appropriate to call you a human being."

wash2u: Alizera, having read through the different English versions you put up of the poem and the literal one above, it is easy to see how the meaning can change with a translation trying to get rhyme and rhythm without keeping the sense of the original.

I learnt through school all the English Rules of rhyme, rhythm, canter and stanza for the different styles of poetry that we had to study to pass our exams.

My last English teacher in school taught us that there are many others ways of using poetry for expression (she had spent a lot of time teaching in India). Much like the above. It gave a whole new dimension to poetical expression as I understand it. And that was 44 years ago.

One of my neices wrote a poem not long after her parents separated 15 years ago which follows this form. Her school entered it in an International Poetry Competition and it managed to get to the stage where it was published along with the other top poems received that year. No rhyme, rhythm, canter and stanza. She was one of the few who were invited to go to Washington USA to "read" her poem.

Merriweather: Salaam Ali

dirooz man khoob nistam
emrooz .. khoobam