What’s with all the road death? (49)
Thanks guys all good reasons and many from experience. I was thinking more along the lines on better roads, perhaps higher fines.
itsme47:
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
Drive safe everyone
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
Drive safe everyone
Hi Itsy, (just had to make up a nickname for you.) Very sorry about the loss you have suffered. Having 3 children who all drive I can imagine how heartbreaking it must be.
Difficult job you do, being a paramedic! I don't think I could do it, but someone has to I guess.
itsme47: A lot of the problem is still speed and people driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol ..Also driving tired is another main factor another is mobile phones txting .. or just reading a txt or reaching for that phone is a death warrant while the car is moving ..not just for the driver but for any other person around them
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
itsmeSorry to hear of th eloss of your daughter.
and thank you for being there for the people in accidents, it cannot be easy.
itsme47: A lot of the problem is still speed and people driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol ..Also driving tired is another main factor another is mobile phones txting .. or just reading a txt or reaching for that phone is a death warrant while the car is moving ..not just for the driver but for any other person around them
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
Sorry to hear that itsme Girl.... one of the sad things in life is that there is a name for children who lose their parents, there is a name for the survivor of a couple if one dies....... but there is no name for parents who lose a child, ....my guess is that parents are not supposed to out-live their children.....
AgentAjax: Thanks guys all good reasons and many from experience. I was thinking more along the lines on better roads, perhaps higher fines.
Ajax I nearly came off the scoot about 6 weeks ago because of the condition of the road. Still dont know how I didnt end up off the bike and sliding down the bitumen.
But in saying it was road condition I also have to take my part of the responsiblity.
A hazard was marked by a sign, a sign that had been there for 3 months for a hazard in the very left of the outside lane. I knew that was there so I was in the merging lane at the end of a passing lane. I had just had a car pass me, I had another behind me and I was watching both. Amid keeping check of both cars I glanced at the road surface and saw a very big bump in the bitumen, right under the front wheel of the scoot. I braced and found out that the maxiscoot can jump...
If I had not taken for granted that I "knew" where the hazard was I wouldnt have ended up jumping the scoot at 100kph. Lesson learned, road conditions do change.
The depression and bitumen ridge that nearly undone me has now been fixed,.. but guess what... the original hazard is still there!
I wish to add once I was so desperate to get out and away from conflict at home resorted jumping into car with drunken idiot he crashed down a bank in the middle of nowhere,was ok he was to.
Then week later like a fool got in car with him again and crashed in near same place again.I look back on it and should have been dead as was one hell of drop down the bank.
Felt strongly afterward,how selfish and careless.
Unfortunately now am still young spirited and minded,but am
more cautious.
Then week later like a fool got in car with him again and crashed in near same place again.I look back on it and should have been dead as was one hell of drop down the bank.
Felt strongly afterward,how selfish and careless.
Unfortunately now am still young spirited and minded,but am
more cautious.
jem1964: Ajax I nearly came off the scoot about 6 weeks ago because of the condition of the road. Still dont know how I didnt end up off the bike and sliding down the bitumen.
But in saying it was road condition I also have to take my part of the responsiblity.
A hazard was marked by a sign, a sign that had been there for 3 months for a hazard in the very left of the outside lane. I knew that was there so I was in the merging lane at the end of a passing lane. I had just had a car pass me, I had another behind me and I was watching both. Amid keeping check of both cars I glanced at the road surface and saw a very big bump in the bitumen, right under the front wheel of the scoot. I braced and found out that the maxiscoot can jump...
If I had not taken for granted that I "knew" where the hazard was I wouldnt have ended up jumping the scoot at 100kph. Lesson learned, road conditions do change.
The depression and bitumen ridge that nearly undone me has now been fixed,.. but guess what... the original hazard is still there!
But in saying it was road condition I also have to take my part of the responsiblity.
A hazard was marked by a sign, a sign that had been there for 3 months for a hazard in the very left of the outside lane. I knew that was there so I was in the merging lane at the end of a passing lane. I had just had a car pass me, I had another behind me and I was watching both. Amid keeping check of both cars I glanced at the road surface and saw a very big bump in the bitumen, right under the front wheel of the scoot. I braced and found out that the maxiscoot can jump...
If I had not taken for granted that I "knew" where the hazard was I wouldnt have ended up jumping the scoot at 100kph. Lesson learned, road conditions do change.
The depression and bitumen ridge that nearly undone me has now been fixed,.. but guess what... the original hazard is still there!
I haven’t been to VIC or Melbourne in years but here in QLD, the roads suck and when they do roadwork repair they always seem to do it during the peak hour , adding frustration. Then we have idiots who slow down every time there is a bingle or someone changing their tyre. Bit of speed, poor road conditions in my mind is a formula for disaster. When you compare Australia against US per capita, I think we are way ahead. I still think imposing higher fines for speeding drivers is the go.
thank you all above with your lovely thoughts of the loss of my daughter
all i ask is please everyone drive safe big hugs to you all
and yes all of us Ambulance paramedics dread going to any car crash as we know the one crash can affect so many other lives if there has been a death or even severe injuries involved ..
all i ask is please everyone drive safe big hugs to you all
and yes all of us Ambulance paramedics dread going to any car crash as we know the one crash can affect so many other lives if there has been a death or even severe injuries involved ..
itsme47: thank you all above with your lovely thoughts of the loss of my daughter
all i ask is please everyone drive safe big hugs to you all
and yes all of us Ambulance paramedics dread going to any car crash as we know the one crash can affect so many other lives if there has been a death or even severe injuries involved ..
all i ask is please everyone drive safe big hugs to you all
and yes all of us Ambulance paramedics dread going to any car crash as we know the one crash can affect so many other lives if there has been a death or even severe injuries involved ..
thoughts are with you I cannot begin to imagine how you feel and what a very brave and very important job you have 
for you Hope you stick around for the forums
curly28: thoughts are with you I cannot begin to imagine how you feel and what a very brave and very important job you have for you
Hope you stick around for the forums
Thank you so much curly ..Hope you stick around for the forums
and yes i hope to stick around the forums ...
itsme47:
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
So very very sorry...
Merri thank you .... and thank you for everyone with their caring thoughts .. you are all so very kind
itsme47: A lot of the problem is still speed and people driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol ..Also driving tired is another main factor another is mobile phones txting .. or just reading a txt or reaching for that phone is a death warrant while the car is moving ..not just for the driver but for any other person around them
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
I am a paramedic here in Australia and its so sad to see all this happen
I have been hit personally as i lost my 19 yr old daughter to a car crash, she had done a twelve out night shift and was driving home it was winter she put the heater on in the car ... she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a tree, she died instantly i will never recover from that loss
There are so many parents going through the same tragic loss of a child
People need to realize getting into that car is a risk and they need think before they start that engine
Drive safe everyone
My 29 yo son tells me how fast he can get places, how he can go around bends 30km/hr faster than the sign says. I dread the phone ringing at night, always rushing to answer it hoping it is another call from India.
When I first came to Melbourne, I worked at VicRoads and over a 6 month period I investigated 23 fatal crashes in just 1/2 of the South Eastern Region representing 30+% of Melbourne's population. I suppose I was a bit fortunate in that I attended the day after, not at the time of the crash.
Speed was a factor (usually too fast for the conditions, not over the speed limit), excessive alcohol, drugs, fatigue, health issues or simply trying to cross an intersection without really looking. I have many friends in the Police, SES and the NSW Rural Fire Service who attend rural crashes. As well as the friends and relatives of the victims, these people are also affected by what they see but many fail to see what they have to deal with.
Itsy, I do understand how it can happen and feel for you. I was nearly another statistic because of fatigue. It was only that I had my driving lights on and the oncoming truck flashed me a few times that I managed to recover. Enough to find the next spot to pull over and have a sleep. And I do now pull over and go for a walk or have a nap whenever I feel drowsy on the long drives.
wash2u: My 29 yo son tells me how fast he can get places, how he can go around bends 30km/hr faster than the sign says. I dread the phone ringing at night, always rushing to answer it hoping it is another call from India.
When I first came to Melbourne, I worked at VicRoads and over a 6 month period I investigated 23 fatal crashes in just 1/2 of the South Eastern Region representing 30+% of Melbourne's population. I suppose I was a bit fortunate in that I attended the day after, not at the time of the crash.
Speed was a factor (usually too fast for the conditions, not over the speed limit), excessive alcohol, drugs, fatigue, health issues or simply trying to cross an intersection without really looking. I have many friends in the Police, SES and the NSW Rural Fire Service who attend rural crashes. As well as the friends and relatives of the victims, these people are also affected by what they see but many fail to see what they have to deal with.
Itsy, I do understand how it can happen and feel for you. I was nearly another statistic because of fatigue. It was only that I had my driving lights on and the oncoming truck flashed me a few times that I managed to recover. Enough to find the next spot to pull over and have a sleep. And I do now pull over and go for a walk or have a nap whenever I feel drowsy on the long drives.
Yes everything you say is so true i agree with you 100 percent ... Also glad you survived that scary incident, keep driving safe .. wish you wellWhen I first came to Melbourne, I worked at VicRoads and over a 6 month period I investigated 23 fatal crashes in just 1/2 of the South Eastern Region representing 30+% of Melbourne's population. I suppose I was a bit fortunate in that I attended the day after, not at the time of the crash.
Speed was a factor (usually too fast for the conditions, not over the speed limit), excessive alcohol, drugs, fatigue, health issues or simply trying to cross an intersection without really looking. I have many friends in the Police, SES and the NSW Rural Fire Service who attend rural crashes. As well as the friends and relatives of the victims, these people are also affected by what they see but many fail to see what they have to deal with.
Itsy, I do understand how it can happen and feel for you. I was nearly another statistic because of fatigue. It was only that I had my driving lights on and the oncoming truck flashed me a few times that I managed to recover. Enough to find the next spot to pull over and have a sleep. And I do now pull over and go for a walk or have a nap whenever I feel drowsy on the long drives.
itsme47: Yes everything you say is so true i agree with you 100 percent ... Also glad you survived that scary incident, keep driving safe .. wish you well
I have been involved with a few different RoadSafe groups in Victoria over the last 10 years, currently the Shire Rep on the Gippsland RoadSafe group.
While we have VicRoads and Councils trying to improve or fix up the roads to a decent level (okay we have had nearly 200 landslips to fix costing about $16 mill to fix in 12 months and spending $10 mill each year trying to fix potholes), it is the community groups such as RoadSafe trying to get messages across to the community about being aware of road conditions and driving according to conditions. And being aware of what others have been through and what steps you can take.
This is why we have all those ads about Driver Reviver, Don't Drink and Drive, We Are Giving a Party (which no-one wants to be part of).
Like many working in road safety, we are trying our best to put ourselves out of work. Will never happen while everyone believes we have great roads, the safest vehicles, and the belief that "I am a great driver, nothing has ever happened to me."
But I am a big wooze and don't like getting hurt. 4 days off and now have 7 different injuries from being home. Looking forward to going back to work
NOT
All those adds on tv are fantastic for helping awareness ..even if only a few listen its going to save some lives
I wish i had 4 days of work
I might get a few days off at the end of this week hopefully
Have a great day tomorrow
I wish i had 4 days of work
I might get a few days off at the end of this week hopefully Have a great day tomorrow
Hans4711: Sorry to hear that itsme Girl.... one of the sad things in life is that there is a name for children who lose their parents, there is a name for the survivor of a couple if one dies....... but there is no name for parents who lose a child, ....my guess is that parents are not supposed to out-live their children.....
Han's that is so true and sad.
Sorry to hear of your loss, Smee. I too have become sleepy with the heater on in the car and have found myself fighting sleep and it is so hard knowing that you are so close to home or you have to be somewhere, who has time for a powernap on the side of the road, not to mention other hazards of being alone and unaware in a car sleeping when anyone could turn up and do anything to you or your vehicle.
itsme47: All those adds on tv are fantastic for helping awareness ..even if only a few listen its going to save some lives
I wish i had 4 days of work I might get a few days off at the end of this week hopefully Have a great day tomorrow
I wish i had 4 days of work I might get a few days off at the end of this week hopefully Have a great day tomorrow
As an ex interstate truck driver covering over 2oo,ooo k`s a year all over Aus, I`ve seen a bit. as curls I think stated earlier on, in 1955 1 car every third family "maybe" Vic alone was killing 700 to a 1,000 every year . Now its 3 cars to nearly every family, and Vic,s road toll hovers around 250 to 300 per year, with untold licences and thousands more cars, so in proportion the road toll is about as low as its ever going to get. The authorities use this to make more dollars for their blitzes. My idea is that driving should be taught to kids in schools earlier. Up hear in the sticks where I live no kid is told, taught, or shown how and the correct way to enter a capital city freeway for instance, and as my old man said to me years ago when I got my licence, now you think you can drive, but you must learn to drive 7 other vehicles around you cos they dont know what their doing and neither do you..... jmo...
Blizzard14u: getting there on time? no matter what state they are in?
As I said I am a professional driver, if I have an accident I am at a higher blame, especially when I drive the truck out the gate! But as I said before I get behind the wheel off a vehicle I am wide awake! How about you?
As I said I am a professional driver, if I have an accident I am at a higher blame, especially when I drive the truck out the gate! But as I said before I get behind the wheel off a vehicle I am wide awake! How about you?
Moving to Victoria, I lost my Australian Drivers License for a Victorian Drivers License. Yes, they do have Australian Drivers Licenses. And I do feel that losing my Australian Drivers License an insult.
But I will quibble about the difference between a professional driver and a truck driver. I do hold a truck license but would never consider that a qualification to being a "professional driver."
I have held my license for 44 years and still have a lot to learn. And 4th generation involved in motor sport.
Was caught out by a "professional driver" last Thursday when driving along with nobody behind me when the "professional driver" in the bus put his blinker on and pulled out. I slammed on my brakes and ended up with a milk container broken over the carpet. And then he pulled up 200 metres later. Some may have the Road Rules to support their stupid actions but there is also some common sense involved.
I deal with real professional drivers every day of the week through my work and in my travels. There is a big difference between "professional drivers" and truck drivers.
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I work in road safety so hear all the time about "stopping the road toll." The shire I work in has had 3 fatalities in the last 6 months (after having zero for over 12 months). 2 were motor cyclists, 1 watching the scenery too much and ran off onto the gravel and lost control with the other trying to see how fast he could go around a bend. The car driver that was killed had taken off and managed to kill himself 200m down the perfectly straight road.
And after hearing for years about how bad city drivers are in the country, it turns out that most country deaths are by locals "who know the road."
And with all the safety improvements in cars these days, too many people believe their car is so safe they can take more chances.
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Agree with you Wash, lots of accidents occur close to home. Mine did just a few days ago--rammed a dark blue car...did not see it on the roundabout. Come to think of it most of my bingles were all close to home. That is why I wrote about making mistakes in another thread. It's quite a shock when it happens.