GermanStyle: it's not the "luck" but the greed of the irish which has destroyed the country i used to love. Am i right?
What are you doing in Basel?
Actually it is that infernal EU that has messed up not only Ireland,but a few other European Countries with it! What is a small Country to do when the Big Thugs of Europe are making them an Offer they better not refuse?
I think a definition of greed is in order to try to understand your statement: "Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power." Being in the EU, it would be difficult for Ireland to have the freedom of being greedy as per the description above. I believe that like many other EU nations, they are facing an economical downturn and have difficulties providing basic services.
You should find other causality other than greed as to the, in your word, "destruction" of Ireland. Your statement is too simplistic to hold any truth, IMO.
GermanStyle: it's not the "luck" but the greed of the irish which has destroyed the country i used to love. Am i right?
I agree no one forced people to sign up to massive mortgages I was offered one during the boom and refused and stayed building my home as I could afford it, driving an older car and having budget holidays. so now I can afford my debt even though I am currently out sick.
Karn1: I agree no one forced people to sign up to massive mortgages I was offered one during the boom and refused and stayed building my home as I could afford it, driving an older car and having budget holidays. so now I can afford my debt even though I am currently out sick.
Hi Karn, The same problem existed in the US. When interest rates were low, many people bought or refinanced homes. They moved from a higher Fixed Rate to a lower Variable Rate. When the crisis arrived, most of these people lost their home. They made a financial decision, but I certainly would not call it greed.
Delatude: Hi Karn, The same problem existed in the US. When interest rates were low, many people bought or refinanced homes. They moved from a higher Fixed Rate to a lower Variable Rate. When the crisis arrived, most of these people lost their home. They made a financial decision, but I certainly would not call it greed.
I agree but the two cars foreign property,everything new and weddings for over 200 friends and acquaintances all on borrowed money not a refinance but everything financed. Also farmers selling land at overinflated prices and builders earning more per hour than consultants that was greed. Many builders wouldn't get out of bed for less than €50 per hour and wouldn't take on small jobs for individuals. The ones that have survived were the ones who kept their small customers on and are still working now.
Karn1: I agree but the two cars foreign property,everything new and weddings for over 200 friends and acquaintances all on borrowed money not a refinance but everything financed. Also farmers selling land at overinflated prices and builders earning more per hour than consultants that was greed. Many builders wouldn't get out of bed for less than €50 per hour and wouldn't take on small jobs for individuals. The ones that have survived were the ones who kept their small customers on and are still working now.
You are right Karn, but I wouldn't say it is all the Irish doing so per the context of this thread. The ranks of the one who gouge the population will thin out. This is not a problem particular to Ireland. I would say it is a condemnation of consumerism. The one taking advantage of the consumers are the greedy one and they turned some legitimate businesses into scamming for profits. You will find profiteers everywhere in the world, not only in Ireland. It is too broad of a statement, IMO. Thanks Karn.
It does seem that too many of the Irish felt that they could jump about 6 social classes overnight. Anyway, you reap what you sow, but there's no need to rub salt in the wounds. The rest of the West is guilty of the same to one degree or another.
Karn1: I agree no one forced people to sign up to massive mortgages I was offered one during the boom and refused and stayed building my home as I could afford it, driving an older car and having budget holidays. so now I can afford my debt even though I am currently out sick.
Hate to break it to you but it wasn't ordinary people who caused this but Property speculators and the bankers.
In response to: it's not the "luck" but the greed of the irish which has destroyed the country i used to love. Am i right?
You got a few centuries to listen on how the Native Americans of today are all about power,greed and still display the very same mistreat to their own kind today.
I would also say that a good share of the Americans political figures included are about greed and power.Believe me when I say that not all cultures have a patent on it.
GermanStyle: it's not the "luck" but the greed of the irish which has destroyed the country i used to love. Am i right?
totally agree with Conrade93 and Del. my family are that of hard workers and our days can long and tiring but on the male side we like to speculate in certain areas of interest to ourselves after we've finished our work.
don't mistake ones willingness of trying to better themselves,for greed!!! material things are of little value to me but succeeding at what I want to do is of great value to me.
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Am i right?