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Oct 1, 2013 12:46 PM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
I watched a programme on Space exploration last night.The cost of the US space station over the last 10yrs is 160 billion dollars.This doesnt include the cost of NASA,or anything else associated wiht it.Then of course there is the European Space programme,which obviously will run into the billions.
Do you think that the goverments involved can justify spending this kind of money on space projects,when within there own countries,and indeed the the planet earth,there are severe problems?
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Oct 1, 2013 2:02 PM CST Space
Maus19
Maus19Maus19Kilkenny, Ireland3 Threads 397 Posts
rebel2: I watched a programme on Space exploration last night.The cost of the US space station over the last 10yrs is 160 billion dollars.This doesnt include the cost of NASA,or anything else associated wiht it.Then of course there is the European Space programme,which obviously will run into the billions.
Do you think that the goverments involved can justify spending this kind of money on space projects,when within there own countries,and indeed the the planet earth,there are severe problems?

The US military budget for one year in 2009 was $680 billion.
Do you think that the governments involved can justify spending this kind of money?
$16 billion a year sounds like peanuts to me in comparison.
tip hathandshake
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Oct 1, 2013 2:05 PM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Maus19: The US military budget for one year in 2009 was $680 billion.
Do you think that the governments involved can justify spending this kind of money?
$16 billion a year sounds like peanuts to me in comparison.
laugh It does doesnt it. I suppose one could argue about defending ones country,hence a large military budget,but exploring little bits of space?
Maybe in the future,but at the present time when the world is feeling the pinch?
I dont know dunno cheers
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Oct 1, 2013 7:03 PM CST Space
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
It's all about taking wealth away from the people and giving it to the already super-rich.

If it weren't for that nobody in government would care about space.
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Oct 1, 2013 7:10 PM CST Space
No, I don't think we should put space exploration or any experiments in medicine and nano-technology (and hundreds of other basic scientific studies) that they're working on in the ISS on hold.
If we look at our global society, we could easily rectify so many of our problems by investing in the solar technology that is available right now.
The problem lies in the fact that the global world we live in is sustained by fossil fuels, and those in control want to keep it that way!
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Oct 1, 2013 8:06 PM CST Space
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
rebel2: I watched a programme on Space exploration last night.The cost of the US space station over the last 10yrs is 160 billion dollars.This doesnt include the cost of NASA,or anything else associated wiht it.Then of course there is the European Space programme,which obviously will run into the billions.
Do you think that the goverments involved can justify spending this kind of money on space projects,when within there own countries,and indeed the the planet earth,there are severe problems?


There will never be enough money to take care of the Earth's human population problems, on one side.

On the other side, the USA space program -along with other countries- is exploring space, performing experiments in medicine-biochemestry etc ..., testing materials, getting data on Earth, etc...


My support to all the Space programs in Earth.





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Oct 1, 2013 8:20 PM CST Space
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
lifeisadream: There will never be enough money to take care of the Earth's human population problems, on one side.

On the other side, the USA space program -along with other countries- is exploring space, performing experiments in medicine-biochemestry etc ..., testing materials, getting data on Earth, etc...My support to all the Space programs in Earth.from any country



doh
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Oct 1, 2013 9:41 PM CST Space
rebel2: I watched a programme on Space exploration last night.The cost of the US space station over the last 10yrs is 160 billion dollars.This doesnt include the cost of NASA,or anything else associated wiht it.Then of course there is the European Space programme,which obviously will run into the billions.
Do you think that the goverments involved can justify spending this kind of money on space projects,when within there own countries,and indeed the the planet earth,there are severe problems?


no I do not think it is justified when we have an enormous deficit. The space program should be funded only when we can afford it ideally. But there is also our satellite missle defense system to consider. we want to remain the most secure homeland, as always. I would not want to have to make the choice between being blown to bits and food to eat or shelter.

certainly tho, there must be action to trim the space program down to essential expenses for national defense only in time like thesethumbs up
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Oct 1, 2013 9:44 PM CST Space
RayfromUSA: It's all about taking wealth away from the people and giving it to the already super-rich.

If it weren't for that nobody in government would care about space.


well, the government is closed now so they won't be giving anything to anyone for awhle. oddly enough I don't know of anyone who has had any issues with the gov't being closed. it' s really not a problem...lol
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Oct 1, 2013 9:47 PM CST Space
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
shouldn't we be feeding the hungry and homeless? peoples priorities are so off anymore...or put it towards curing cancer



doh
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Oct 1, 2013 10:04 PM CST Space
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
SoonerGal: shouldn't we be feeding the hungry and homeless? peoples priorities are so off anymore...or put it towards curing cancer

And what the causes for their being hungry and homeless are?


SoonerGal: ...or put it towards curing cancer


Part of the space experiments is to find a cure for cancer and to develop high quality protein for people's nutrition among many other topics.






wine
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Oct 1, 2013 10:14 PM CST Space
SoonerGal: shouldn't we be feeding the hungry and homeless? peoples priorities are so off anymore...or put it towards curing cancer
If all the money that is spent on science and exploration were earmarked for feeding the hungry and housing the homeless, mankind would still be living in caves. The modern world owes its standard of living to science. In fact, if it weren't for science, human lifespans would be around 30 years. There would probably not be such a desease as cancer because people wouldn't live long anough to get it. Without a space program there would be no GPS or world wide TV or telephone service. No internet, no global weather forcasts, etc etc.
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Oct 1, 2013 10:43 PM CST Space
NASA's 2013 budget is less than one half of 1 percent!
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Oct 2, 2013 12:21 AM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
RayfromUSA: It's all about taking wealth away from the people and giving it to the already super-rich.

If it weren't for that nobody in government would care about space.
laugh Perhaps
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Oct 2, 2013 12:22 AM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
CasualCarol: No, I don't think we should put space exploration or any experiments in medicine and nano-technology (and hundreds of other basic scientific studies) that they're working on in the ISS on hold.
If we look at our global society, we could easily rectify so many of our problems by investing in the solar technology that is available right now.
The problem lies in the fact that the global world we live in is sustained by fossil fuels, and those in control want to keep it that way!
Good point wine
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Oct 2, 2013 12:24 AM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
lifeisadream: There will never be enough money to take care of the Earth's human population problems, on one side.

On the other side, the USA space program -along with other countries- is exploring space, performing experiments in medicine-biochemestry etc ..., testing materials, getting data on Earth, etc...My support to all the Space programs in Earth.
Yes, there is a lot that comes from the technology used in the space programme.
I am just wondering if we should divert the money elsewhere for a short period,not give it up completely.wave
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Oct 2, 2013 12:26 AM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
felixis99: no I do not think it is justified when we have an enormous deficit. The space program should be funded only when we can afford it ideally. But there is also our satellite missle defense system to consider. we want to remain the most secure homeland, as always. I would not want to have to make the choice between being blown to bits and food to eat or shelter.

certainly tho, there must be action to trim the space program down to essential expenses for national defense only in time like these
I like the idea of trimming it for the moment.I am sure that there are areas that could be, as in most industries.wine
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Oct 2, 2013 12:29 AM CST Space
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
ooby_dooby: If all the money that is spent on science and exploration were earmarked for feeding the hungry and housing the homeless, mankind would still be living in caves. The modern world owes its standard of living to science. In fact, if it weren't for science, human lifespans would be around 30 years. There would probably not be such a desease as cancer because people wouldn't live long anough to get it. Without a space program there would be no GPS or world wide TV or telephone service. No internet, no global weather forcasts, etc etc.
Fair comment.The medical world has come on leaps and bounds because of spin offs from that technology.cheers
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Oct 2, 2013 3:11 AM CST Space
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
GUZMAN1: Alien invaders are an annoying problem. I'm glad that the governments spend billions in this.

My government spends it on more down to earth things
expensive suits ,cars ,yachts, villas, bank accounts
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Oct 2, 2013 4:11 AM CST Space
I was a tour guild for NASA in Huntsville, Alabama when I was a kid and praised the efforts of the program then, but now? No, we shouldn't have long term voyages in space. Nothing about it is practical. I agree with sending the Hubble telescope and satellites and such to gather information, but as far as humans dwelling there? No... No, for three simple reasons for starts: Space is loaded with radiation, it's 200 below zero Fahrenheit and there is no oxygen. Hello! Not a place for humans.
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