Desperation and looting in the Philippines. ( Archived) (78)

Nov 13, 2013 1:34 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
By Andrew R.C. Marshall and Stuart Grudgings
TACLOBAN, Philippines (Reuters) - Desperation gripped Philippine islands devastated by Typhoon Haiyan as looting turned deadly on Wednesday and survivors panicked over delays in supplies of food, water and medicine, some digging up underground water pipes and smashing them open.

Five days after one of the strongest storms ever recorded roared over cities and towns in the central Philippines, survivors in remote regions complained they had yet to receive any aid.

Controversy also emerged over the death toll.
President Benigno Aquino said local officials had overstated the loss of life, saying it was closer to 2,000 or 2,500 than the 10,000 previously estimated. His comments, however, drew scepticism from some aid workers.
Eight people were killed when looters raided rice stockpiles in a government warehouse in the town of Alangalang, causing part of the building to collapse, local authorities said.

Other looters still managed to cart away 33,000 bags of rice weighing 50 kg (110 lb) each, said Orlan Calayag, administrator of the state-run grain agency National Food Authority.

Looters also raided warehouses owned by food and drinks company Universal Robina Corp and drug company United Laboratories in the storm-hit town of Palo in Leyte, along with a rice mill in Jaro, said Alfred Li, head of the Leyte Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
Soldiers sent in by Aquino to restore order in the city of Tacloban, which bore the brunt of the storm, fired shots into the air to scatter looters, television footage showed.

Tacloban city administrator Tecson John Lim said 90 percent of the coastal city of 220,000 people had been destroyed, with only 20 percent of residents receiving aid. Houses were now being looted because warehouses were empty, he said.

"The looting is not criminality. It is self-preservation," Lim told Reuters.
Some survivors in Tacloban dug up water pipes in a desperate bid for water.
"We sourced our water from an underground pipe that we have smashed. We don't know if it's safe. We need to boil it. But at least we have something," said Christopher Dorano, 38.

"There have been a lot of people who have died here."
Resident Rachel Garduce said the aid - 3 kg (6 lb) of rice and 1 litre (34 ounces) of water per household - was not enough in her ravaged Tacloban neighbourhood. Her aunt in Manila, 580 km (360 miles) to the north, was travelling by road and ferry to bring supplies. "We are hoping she won't get hijacked," she said.

THOUSANDS REPORTED MISSING
The government has been overwhelmed by the force of the typhoon, which decimated large swathes of Leyte province where local officials have said they feared 10,000 people died, many drowning in a tsunami-like surge of seawater.
Aquino, who has been on the defensive over his handling of the disaster, said the government was still gathering information from various storm-struck areas and the death toll may rise. "Ten thousand, I think, is too much," Aquino told CNN in an interview. "There was emotional drama involved with that particular estimate.
"We're hoping to be able to contact something like 29 municipalities left wherein we still have to establish their numbers, especially for the missing, but so far 2,000, about 2,500, is the number we are working on as far as deaths are concerned," he said.
Officials said Aquino referred to estimated deaths. Official confirmed deaths stood at 1,883 on Wednesday, with only 84 missing, a figure aid workers consider widely inaccurate.
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Nov 13, 2013 1:47 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
my heart goes out to the people of the Phillipines. It hard to even imagine, what they are going through. The sheer numbers of the people affected is huge.moping
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Nov 13, 2013 1:54 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Torless: my heart goes out to the people of the Phillipines. It hard to even imagine, what they are going through. The sheer numbers of the people affected is huge.



Yes my heart and prayers gp to themsad flower sad flower sad flower
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Nov 13, 2013 3:04 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
Nothing new Tom. When people are as desperate as they are for the basics to survive they will go to any lengths.

The World is never prepared for natural disasters, and aid is slow getting to the people who need it.

This tragedy has been compared to the Boxing Day Tsunami.sad flower
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Nov 13, 2013 3:15 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
At least the death toll seems less than thought.

Hope that the aid shall be quickly supplied.
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Nov 13, 2013 3:20 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
Newlife08
Newlife08Newlife08On the coast, Queensland Australia165 Threads 2,715 Posts

The destruction wrought by the Typhoon in the Philippines is added to because of the damage to infrastructure such as the airports, roads and telecommunication facilities making it harder to find out what is happening and where.

Then actually getting basics like clean water and food for survivors.

It is already a poor country so as far as medical supplies etc it is already in short supply.

God help them - and I hope the world does too. teddybear

We have a fairly large population of Filippinos in Australia, I am sure most people know someone from there - they are out of their minds with worry for their friends and family out there.
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Nov 13, 2013 3:26 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
GUZMAN1: At least the death toll seems less than thought.

Hope that the aid shall be quickly supplied.


1 % of all the military expenses would be more than enough to have a huge quick reaction force.Immediatley help would be there-always, everywhere.
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Nov 13, 2013 3:31 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
nokundi: 1 % of all the military expenses would be more than enough to have a huge quick reaction force.Immediatley help would be there-always, everywhere.


In fact the most capable of do that the help arrives to the affected is the Army.

Other countries are going to send military helicopters, tents and other army supplies.
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Nov 13, 2013 3:37 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
GUZMAN1: In fact the most capable of do that the help arrives to the affected is the Army.

Other countries are going to send military helicopters, tents and other army supplies.


2 or 3 days ago the german news said giving 500.000 euro.I had to laugh loud.500 000 is nothing compared to that what the german army costs in afghanistan.But it sounds good in the news- seems nobody thinks deeper.doh
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Nov 13, 2013 3:40 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
nokundi: 2 or 3 days ago the german news said giving 500.000 euro.I had to laugh loud.500 000 is nothing compared to that what the german army costs in afghanistan.But it sounds good in the news- seems nobody thinks deeper.


just googled-- 20days german army costs about 20millions euro.doh
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Nov 13, 2013 3:41 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
nokundi: just googled-- 20days german army costs about 20millions euro.



sorry 7 days/ 20 millions
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Nov 13, 2013 3:43 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
nokundi: 2 or 3 days ago the german news said giving 500.000 euro.I had to laugh loud.500 000 is nothing compared to that what the german army costs in afghanistan.But it sounds good in the news- seems nobody thinks deeper.


500k? Really? Has Germany not got a trade surplus of 19 billion euro up until September this year?
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Nov 13, 2013 3:44 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
nokundi: sorry 7 days/ 20 millions


20 million isn't much considering the population and the country will have a surplus of about 25 billion by the end of the year.
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Nov 13, 2013 3:50 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
sofarsogood74: 20 million isn't much considering the population and the country will have a surplus of about 25 billion by the end of the year.



thats true,so you see the hypocrisy

the rich ones get more rich, the poor ones get more poor....doh
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Nov 13, 2013 3:51 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
The Prime Minister declared more aid would be sent to the ailing nation with warship HMS Daring and RAF C-17 transporter being sent help with relief.

At the Lord Mayor's Banquet, Mr Cameron said that Britain will raise their aid to £10million from the original £6million figure.

He said: "We continue to help around the world - as we are today in the Philippines, where Typhoon Haiyan has wrought such appalling devastation.

"Britain is contributing £10m and HMS Daring, currently deployed near Singapore, will shortly be heading at full speed towards the disaster zone with further support from an RAF C-17 which will be a powerful help to the relief operation."
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Nov 13, 2013 4:02 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
"Filipinos are a deeply spiritual people, with more than 90% of its population Christian. Many people have lost their Bibles in the storm at a time when they need them most. That is why the Philippine Bible Society is planning to make hundreds of thousands of Scriptures available for distribution, alongside essential aid, such as food, blankets and medicine. Please do consider donating to help support this vital work."

Ref:




There will always be some that will create an opportunity out of a disaster..... blues frustrated

sad flower
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Nov 13, 2013 4:26 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
RDM59: "Filipinos are a deeply spiritual people, with more than 90% of its population Christian. Many people have lost their Bibles in the storm at a time when they need them most. That is why the Philippine Bible Society is planning to make hundreds of thousands of Scriptures available for distribution, alongside essential aid, such as food, blankets and medicine. Please do consider donating to help support this vital work."

Ref:

will always be some that will create an opportunity out of a disaster.....


Hi RDMwave

I just had to read that... WoW... I guess that some people need bibles and scriptures...

I suppose because that type of thing would be... I mean was.. the furtherest from my mind at the time.. maybe that is what some want..

When I went thru the cyclone.. I went to Red Cross for nick nicks.. not bible scriptures..

sad flower
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Nov 13, 2013 6:11 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
marij070
marij070marij070Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK3 Threads 146 Posts
RDM59: There will always be some that will create an opportunity out of a disaster.....



yes,indeed... this oportunity out of a disaster.. is one of those amazing micracles that occur during natural disasters....people still believe.. that God is good,blues God prevents further loss of lifes.blues.people must know that these natural disasters are because they need to reevaluate their priorities in life.. is a miracle..blues..hundred o millions of dollars in aid is sent to assist the people who are suffering .is another miracle...blues Christian ministries have the oportunity to help, counsel, pray, administer an lead people to saving faith in Christ.. God can do it, he brings great assets of terrible tragedies..blues..(Romans 8:28).....liar



sad flower
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Nov 13, 2013 6:35 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Merriweather: Hi RDM

I just had to read that... WoW... I guess that some people need bibles and scriptures...

I suppose because that type of thing would be... I mean was.. the furtherest from my mind at the time.. maybe that is what some want..

When I went thru the cyclone.. I went to Red Cross for nick nicks.. not bible scriptures..


wow.... oh my word, you lost your knickers in a cyclone !

From the washing line or from your actual person ??? .... giggle


wave bouquet
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Nov 13, 2013 6:40 AM CST Desperation and looting in the Philippines.
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
marij070: yes,indeed... this oportunity out of a disaster.. is one of those amazing micracles that occur during natural disasters....people still believe.. that God is good, God prevents further loss of lifes..people must know that these natural disasters are because they need to reevaluate their priorities in life.. is a miracle....hundred o millions of dollars in aid is sent to assist the people who are suffering .is another miracle... Christian ministries have the oportunity to help, counsel, pray, administer an lead people to saving faith in Christ.. God can do it, he brings great assets of terrible tragedies....(Romans 8:28).....



Aye, those Filipinos must have been up to no good to provoke such wrath from God.

That's how it works isn't it ? ....dunno

doh


wave teddybear lips
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