MerriweatherOPAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
We have a doc here in my state... who is under lots of scrutiny at the moment... because he aided peeps to pop their clogs in a short period when it was allowed..
I have my thoughts on this one... but would be interested in your comments..
Imo, anybody who has the least understanding, economically and environmentally, where the world is going would realise that we should be reusing our plastic bags to suffocate the elderly.
Merriweather: We have a doc here in my state... who is under lots of scrutiny at the moment... because he aided peeps to pop their clogs in a short period when it was allowed..
I have my thoughts on this one... but would be interested in your comments..
I think it's up to the person involved who is of sound mind to make that decision for themselves. Unfortunately, when you want to finish a life someone doesn't regard worth living, they might be unable to do so themselves.
I know that my mum has a document that if something happens and she would be depending on live support, to switch off the machine.
It's a decision each person have to make for themselves.
MerriweatherOPAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
Obstinance_Works: Owww does it really have to be voluntary?
Imo, anybody who has the least understanding, economically and environmentally, where the world is going would realise that we should be reusing our plastic bags to suffocate the elderly.
Oh... only you could have had that type of comeback...
MerriweatherOPAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
KNenagh: I think it's up to the person involved who is of sound mind to make that decision for themselves. Unfortunately, when you want to finish a life someone doesn't regard worth living, they might be unable to do so themselves.
I know that my mum has a document that if something happens and she would be depending on live support, to switch off the machine.
It's a decision each person have to make for themselves.
Hi Kn
Your mother has clearly thought this through... and is being very sensible about it...
and in doing so... has relieved you and the family of making a decision at the time... when no one clear thinks..
Merriweather: We have a doc here in my state... who is under lots of scrutiny at the moment... because he aided peeps to pop their clogs in a short period when it was allowed..
I have my thoughts on this one... but would be interested in your comments..
Both my parents have signed "Living Wills"...same as KN and I will be doing the same thing. A bit different to euthanasia in that it's simply a Do No Resuscitate document. For myself, if I were at the stage of an incurable illness, suffering dreadfully, I think I would most definitely engage the services of someone to help me finish it. Having said all this, I'm not in that situation, so I can't say for sure.
Hi Merri, it's really nasty in the uk today. Serious gales with gusts up to 100mph. Just had to gather up the contents of my wheelie bin from down the street after it had been blown over by the gales. Snow forecast for tonight also...
MerriweatherOPAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
bodleing2: Hi Merri, it's really nasty in the uk today. Serious gales with gusts up to 100mph. Just had to gather up the contents of my wheelie bin from down the street after it had been blown over by the gales. Snow forecast for tonight also...
Oh... bugga... take care Bodleing.. sounds like pretty nasty weather... time to sit in bed with a good book and a lappy..
bodleing2: Hi Merri, it's really nasty in the uk today. Serious gales with gusts up to 100mph. Just had to gather up the contents of my wheelie bin from down the street after it had been blown over by the gales. Snow forecast for tonight also...
If you timed it right,you could get locked in the pub
Merriweather: Oh... totally distraught.. of course.. I hate pulling the plug... especially if the water's gone cold.. makes the hairs on my arms stick up like Jackie... have a great fun day Rebel... cheers.
MerriweatherOPAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
unlaoised: Hiya everyone
Both my parents have signed "Living Wills"...same as KN and I will be doing the same thing. A bit different to euthanasia in that it's simply a Do No Resuscitate document. For myself, if I were at the stage of an incurable illness, suffering dreadfully, I think I would most definitely engage the services of someone to help me finish it. Having said all this, I'm not in that situation, so I can't say for sure.
Hi ah lovely...
I think this is not really a subject that is talked about.. but from the replies.. people have thought about..
Obstinance_Works: Owww does it really have to be voluntary?
Imo, anybody who has the least understanding, economically and environmentally, where the world is going would realise that we should be reusing our plastic bags to suffocate the elderly.
Legislation on euthanasia in Switzerland permits assisted suicide. For example, lethal drugs may be prescribed as long as the recipient takes an active role in the drug administration. Active euthanasia (such as administering a lethal injection) is not legal. For assisted suicide, the law does not require a physician to be involved, nor does it require the recipient to be a Swiss national. These aspects of the law are unique in the world.
The legality of assisted suicide is a result of article 115 of the Swiss Criminal Code, in effect since 1942, which provides:
"Inciting and assisting suicide: Any person who for selfish motives incites or assists another to commit or attempt to commit suicide shall, if that other person thereafter commits or attempts to commit suicide, be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding five years or to a monetary penalty."
Consequently, assisting suicide is a crime only if the motive for doing so is selfish, such as personal gain.
When an assisted suicide is declared, a police inquiry may be started. Since no crime has been committed in the absence of a selfish motive, these are mostly open and shut cases. Prosecution can occur if doubts are raised about the patient's competence to make an autonomous choice, or about the motivation of anyone involved in assisting the suicide.
Article 115 was interpreted as legal permission to set up organizations administering life-ending medicine only in the 1980s, 40 years after its coming into effect.
Article 115 does not give physicians a special status in assisting suicide, although they are most likely to have access to suitable drugs. Ethical guidelines have cautioned physicians against prescribing lethal drugs. However, the guidelines also recognize that, in exceptional and clearly defined cases, physicians may justifiably assist suicide.[citation needed] Based on more recent ethical, juridical and medical statements, a prescription of Sodium-Pentobarbital is not necessarily contra-indicated, and thus is no longer generally a violation of medical duty of care.
But whoever assists better be on the level!Legislation on euthanasia in Switzerland permits assisted suicide. For example, lethal drugs may be prescribed as long as the recipient takes an active role in the drug administration. Active euthanasia (such as administering a lethal injection) is not legal. For assisted suicide, the law does not require a physician to be involved, nor does it require the recipient to be a Swiss national. These aspects of the law are unique in the world.The legality of assisted suicide is a result of article 115 of the Swiss Criminal Code, in effect since 1942, which provides:
"Inciting and assisting suicide: Any person who for selfish motives incites or assists another to commit or attempt to commit suicide shall, if that other person thereafter commits or attempts to commit suicide, be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding five years or to a monetary penalty."
Consequently, assisting suicide is a crime only if the motive for doing so is selfish, such as personal gain.
When an assisted suicide is declared, a police inquiry may be started. Since no crime has been committed in the absence of a selfish motive, these are mostly open and shut cases. Prosecution can occur if doubts are raised about the patient's competence to make an autonomous choice, or about the motivation of anyone involved in assisting the suicide.
Article 115 was interpreted as legal permission to set up organizations administering life-ending medicine only in the 1980s, 40 years after its coming into effect.
Article 115 does not give physicians a special status in assisting suicide, although they are most likely to have access to suitable drugs. Ethical guidelines have cautioned physicians against prescribing lethal drugs. However, the guidelines also recognize that, in exceptional and clearly defined cases, physicians may justifiably assist suicide.[citation needed] Based on more recent ethical, juridical and medical statements, a prescription of Sodium-Pentobarbital is not necessarily contra-indicated, and thus is no longer generally a violation of medical duty of care.
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I have my thoughts on this one... but would be interested in your comments..