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Jan 21, 2015 8:47 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
A thousand rooms ,

Alot of hoovering,doh ...poor me being the only housekeeper in an empty building just for me,


laugh .


Think ill have to invite some helps angels throw a party and give it some life,

dancing
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Jan 21, 2015 8:48 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
peachmelba: A thousand rooms ,

Alot of hoovering, ...poor me being the only housekeeper in an empty building just for me, .Think ill have to invite some helps angels throw a party and give it some life,





That was supposed to type hells angels .


devil
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Jan 21, 2015 8:50 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
chris27292729: OMG, what have you done.???
Forcing the OP., either accept or denounce your post.
And Chriss is happy like a child who got just candys when his hated neighbour Turkey gets bashed by the religiously and cultural opposite sides.laugh applause applause
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Jan 21, 2015 8:53 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I can just imagine washing all the windows.doh laugh
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Jan 21, 2015 8:53 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
peachmelba: A thousand rooms ,

Alot of hoovering, ...poor me being the only housekeeper in an empty building just for me, .Think ill have to invite some helps angels throw a party and give it some life,
if you are enough good at hoovering then wouldnt be a problem Peachylaugh wine

btw,Chriss says its not 1000 but 1150 rooms.Extra work for yougrin
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Jan 21, 2015 8:54 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
Ccincy: I can just imagine washing all the windows.
Peachy will do it just after finishing the hooveringlaugh
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Jan 21, 2015 8:56 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Leo_7: Peachy will do it just after finishing the hoovering






Oh I see.laugh Hope she doesn't forget to clean the carpeting too.
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Jan 21, 2015 8:58 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
Ccincy: Oh I see. Hope she doesn't forget to clean the carpeting too.
No she will not.She is determed to get a this years cleaners Nobel Prize.grin
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Jan 22, 2015 11:32 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
freemind73
freemind73freemind73Antalya, Mediterranean Turkey13 Posts
Leo_7: My friend ,I understand your approach,cos you are not Turkish but mixed Macedonian who most of his life lived in Germany.Also in your profile you calling Turkish men stupid is very shameful and dissapointing .In this case your arguments cannot be objective.
I wonder why would you chose live in Turkey when you dont like it,instead of your own country Germany? Just asking.


Hello Leo,
for me it doesn't really matter whet I am! Maybe my wording was not the right one....my attitude and some thoughts more "German than Turkish". My father is from Macedonia, that is right, they moved 1951 BACK to Turkey after 258 years Macedonia but it doesn't matter for me! Very good friends of me are Greek, Serbian and German-Jew. Oh my god...how is that possible a Turkish guy say that?!?! We always are friends, very close friends and we don't care what politics discuss or do. So all the discussion between Greece and Turkey....I can't remember only one situation were I had any problems with my Greek friend and his family. I know his whole family and he mine. Or the Balkan war.....no problem with my Serbian friend or his family. I felt and feel always comfortable when I visit my Jewish friend and I'm sure that he feels also good when he visit me!
We don't talk or act out from a conditioned mind because one thing what we have in common is.....we are all HUMAN!

Regarding "need to tell me how stupid Turkish men on this site, I know that very well but don't judge a book only due to his cover.".......
I get kind of tired to hear the comments of woman in a continue conversation, I mean their experience so far with Turkish men on dating sites. That is the reason why I write this. So there is no hidden meaning like "hey I wasn't born in Turkey...so I'm better" or something like that. There are enough of not Turkish men who are gamer, that is fact, but I'm here in Turkey so I wrote this in my profile. So I don't mean all Turkish men.

Turkey is not the actual political situation and Turkey is also not only tourism places like Antalya-Alanya-Marmaris-Bodrum....
Turkey is still a very beautiful place for me and this has nothing to do whether my roots from here or not! I lived also in Austria, Italy, Spain and Japan. Every place has his own attraction. Is patriotism needed to like or love a country or to just enjoy living in that country?
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Jan 22, 2015 12:15 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
danieljosh
danieljoshdanieljoshtelford, West Midlands, England UK21 Threads 1 Polls 1,364 Posts
I`ve been to turkey twice my sister as a house there so I stay with her and her husband

I`ve met a lot of Turkish people when I go as I `ve got to know the neighbours a couple actually came and stayed with me for a few days when visiting England

those I have meet have been nice people

I find this all over the world as the majority of people are good

I would never blame everyone for the actions of the few and class them as a group

I`m going to visit again later this year



wave
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Jan 22, 2015 12:26 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
freemind73
freemind73freemind73Antalya, Mediterranean Turkey13 Posts
If I remember right than Winston Churchill said:
History is one damned thing after another.

Unfortunately we don't learn from history!

In general I agree that there is lack if we talk about human rights or democratic basics!
And if we talk about PKK......well every country has or had this kind of problems.
RAF in the 70s-80s in Germany! People died.
"The Trouble" or Northern Ireland conflict (Republic of Ireland-England). It starts in the 60s and ended with the Belfast "Good Friday" Agreement in the late 90s. People died!
Or ETA (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) in Spain. Also start in the 60s and I hear that until today there died nearly 1000 people. Again people died.
Or the Balkan War, how many people died there?
Or Ukraine.
You find it everywhere and the result is always the same....people die!

You have something like 20 Million Kurdish people living all over Turkey. I don't think that they will move back if they get "Kurdistan". Many of them born in Turkey. How many people living in "Kurdistan", in the hills and fight for PKK.

I see only the results....people do things like bomb attack and innocent people die or innocent people get arrested!

Or how many Greece people living in Turkey....how many Turkish people living in Greece. Do we need all that discussion NOW? Or maybe it is better to think together about more important things than that what happens 30-40-50 or 100 years ago!
My great-grandfather died at the Battle of Gallipoli. Hmm....who should I attack now?

Cyprus is a very very nice place. BOTH SIDES of Cyprus. The guys should think about the problems of whole Cyprus like water, waste industry or sewage system. This is actual needed in Cyprus and not history.

History is simple one damned thing after another!

I know and see that there are enough Turkish people who fully match with the idea of EU. What everybody discuss are the action, comments of the actual government...and this since 12 years. This government system is not suitable with EU. Turkey is pretty interesting for the EU, that is also fact!
I have the feeling that too many people get lost in details and forget the whole picture.
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Jan 23, 2015 5:55 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7: I love architecture and mega structures.Recently Turkish President has moved to his newly build massive 1000 room presidental palace which is named Ak Saray( White Palace).
At first glance it didnt look too attractive to me.Its not as beautiful as Versallies but it has its own Ottoman style architecture.
I wonder what for will be used all those 1000 rooms.
What do you think?

God... I saw him the other day flanked by actors up the staircase representing all the other Pashas and Sultans etc. laugh Oh God that man has problems.

Anyway, those 1,000 rooms could be used as a Motel for all the ISIS fighters that pass through, with Turkey's full consent and knowledge. Just like Israel and the US, Turkey is a terrorist sponsoring State.
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Jan 23, 2015 11:48 AM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
freemind73
freemind73freemind73Antalya, Mediterranean Turkey13 Posts
MADDOG69: God... I saw him the other day flanked by actors up the staircase representing all the other Pashas and Sultans etc. Oh God that man has problems.

Anyway, those 1,000 rooms could be used as a Motel for all the ISIS fighters that pass through, with Turkey's full consent and knowledge. Just like Israel and the US, Turkey is a terrorist sponsoring State.


Good point!
If you say Erdogan-Turkey than I fully agree with you but Turkey in general??
This government supported the IS since many years this already proven (they buy petrol from this ISIS guys over many years!) That this government worked with Billions of Dollars from Iran is also proven! And many other activities in the middle eastern.
They take away the power of Military and secret service so that they can't act against them.
All the police officer, police director on highest level, judge and federal prosecutor which were involved to expose the corruption of Erdogans minister either arrested or misplaced (we talking here about over 800 people!). I talking about people on highest position and you have many federal prosecutor and police director which are specialized in suppression of terrorism.
This is fact! And the funny thing is the accusation........the accusation is that they support terrorism!!! So far nobody can proof that but they still in jail. Due to the majority of number at the parliament they can create every rule and protect this ministers and their own actions.
Oh, maybe it is normal that ministers have 30 or 40 Million Euros in a shoe box under their bed and I'm wrong. When this pop up they simple block all media including youtube and twitter. The head of Samanyolu TV is still in jail and nobody knows why. Even his lawyer can't see all the documents against their client (maybe there exists nothing).
Same with secret agent which did all the audio monitoring. What I write here is generally known and nothing secret. 2 days ago they arrested a female journalist and threaten her with 5 years jail due to a tweet!! She post something regarding the 4 minister.

Can you imagine how many bed you can place in this palace and how many shoe boxes under this beds?? WOW!

But this government isn't Turkey! The days this government didn't act against ISIS in Sytia, this days the Turkish people demonstrate every day on the street against ISIS. Since the Istanbul-Gazi everybody knows how the government reacts against demonstration. But this doesn't stop the people here.

Consent and knowledge....yes but this information again the terror organisation ISIS was/is available only at the table of another organisation.

ISIS is not Turkey and Erdogan-Turkey don't representing Turkish people.
A person who describe himself as a "world leader" has not only problems........he is a problem.

So you are right and I only want to add some facts to show you that it isn't whole Turkey who support ISIS. There are many people at the ISIS and their origin is from UK, Germany, France, Netherlands.....etc. but this doesn't mean that this Countries support the ISIS.
Thanks
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Jan 23, 2015 12:17 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
MADDOG69: God... I saw him the other day flanked by actors up the staircase representing all the other Pashas and Sultans etc. Oh God that man has problems.

Anyway, those 1,000 rooms could be used as a Motel for all the ISIS fighters that pass through, with Turkey's full consent and knowledge. Just like Israel and the US, Turkey is a terrorist sponsoring State.
Yeah ,show always been a part of politicslaugh Btw they were representing soldiers of 16 historical Turkic empires.Other politics use different type of shows which works for them.Erdogan knows that Turks are very connected and proud with their history so he uses it for his political favour.
And actors werent enough.He even used Dirilis music (which is Ottoman fight march) in there when meeting Aliyev.And changing usual red carpet to blue which is concidered color of Turkslaugh
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Jan 23, 2015 12:32 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
freemind73: If I remember right than Winston Churchill said:
History is one damned thing after another.

Unfortunately we don't learn from history!

In general I agree that there is lack if we talk about human rights or democratic basics!
And if we talk about PKK......well every country has or had this kind of problems.
RAF in the 70s-80s in Germany! People died.
"The Trouble" or Northern Ireland conflict (Republic of Ireland-England). It starts in the 60s and ended with the Belfast "Good Friday" Agreement in the late 90s. People died!
Or ETA (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) in Spain. Also start in the 60s and I hear that until today there died nearly 1000 people. Again people died.
Or the Balkan War, how many people died there?
Or Ukraine.
You find it everywhere and the result is always the same....people die!

You have something like 20 Million Kurdish people living all over Turkey. I don't think that they will move back if they get "Kurdistan". Many of them born in Turkey. How many people living in "Kurdistan", in the hills and fight for PKK.

I see only the results....people do things like bomb attack and innocent people die or innocent people get arrested!

Or how many Greece people living in Turkey....how many Turkish people living in Greece. Do we need all that discussion NOW? Or maybe it is better to think together about more important things than that what happens 30-40-50 or 100 years ago!
My great-grandfather died at the Battle of Gallipoli. Hmm....who should I attack now?

Cyprus is a very very nice place. BOTH SIDES of Cyprus. The guys should think about the problems of whole Cyprus like water, waste industry or sewage system. This is actual needed in Cyprus and not history.

History is simple one damned thing after another!

I know and see that there are enough Turkish people who fully match with the idea of EU. What everybody discuss are the action, comments of the actual government...and this since 12 years. This government system is not suitable with EU. Turkey is pretty interesting for the EU, that is also fact!
I have the feeling that too many people get lost in details and forget the whole picture.
You know how much Turkeys economy has improved during Ak Party's rule.and how much Turkey became stronger?Of course Erdogan isnt ideal,but he is best since Ataturks times.If you check statistics you will see in what state were Turkey before Ak party came in power.Thats what worries west that Turkey becoming stronger.Who would want a powerful muslim majority state at the gates of Europe.All they want is weak country with puppet leaders which will do whatever west wants.Thats todays world politics.And if theres a leader who stands for his national interests (specially if its a nation of different culture and religion)they declare him an evil.
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Jan 23, 2015 5:29 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Leo_7: My friend ,I understand your approach,cos you are not Turkish but mixed Macedonian who most of his life lived in Germany.Also in your profile you calling Turkish men stupid is very shameful and dissapointing In this case your arguments cannot be objective...


Leo_7: ...
I wonder why would you chose live in Turkey when you dont like it,instead of your own country Germany? Just asking.


Turkey is a beutiful country if I could I would love to live there for some time.

My perception of Turkey is that women are getting more freedom, going to school, taking a job, etc...than women in Egypt for example.




wave
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Jan 23, 2015 6:51 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
danieljosh: I`ve been to turkey twice my sister as a house there so I stay with her and her husband

I`ve met a lot of Turkish people when I go as I `ve got to know the neighbours a couple actually came and stayed with me for a few days when visiting England

those I have meet have been nice people

I find this all over the world as the majority of people are good

I would never blame everyone for the actions of the few and class them as a group

I`m going to visit again later this year



applause
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Jan 24, 2015 12:31 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts


Turkey's economic growth rate is very erratic looking at the bar chart. Some sectors declined, some are flat and some experienced growth. "The expansion was driven by financial and insurance activities, transportation, construction and mining." The forecasts are not all that fantastic.

While that kind of development is more or less normal in emerging markets, how they fare in the future is everybody's guess. What does Erdogan say about economics? what kinds of policies does he want to institute?

I really am not convinced that the economy is as fantastic as the Turks seem to believe.
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Jan 24, 2015 4:11 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Nidifugous: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/turkey/gdp-growth

Turkey's economic growth rate is very erratic looking at the bar chart. Some sectors declined, some are flat and some experienced growth. "The expansion was driven by financial and insurance activities, transportation, construction and mining." The forecasts are not all that fantastic.

While that kind of development is more or less normal in emerging markets, how they fare in the future is everybody's guess. What does Erdogan say about economics? what kinds of policies does he want to institute?

I really am not convinced that the economy is as fantastic as the Turks seem to believe.


There is a basic line of course that has to be met for people to have their needs covered but how -far beyond that- do “countries” should go?.

Societies are different.

Is one car enough?
Is a 3 room home enough?
Is a covered garage enough?
etc…
Are 37 shampoo brands enough?

Do countries value economic growth the same?


wave
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Jan 24, 2015 10:47 PM CST Erdogan's new a thousand room palace.
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
lifeisadream: There is a basic line of course that has to be met for people to have their needs covered but how -far beyond that- do “countries” should go?.

Societies are different.

Is one car enough?
Is a 3 room home enough?
Is a covered garage enough?
etc…
Are 37 shampoo brands enough?

Do countries value economic growth the same?


wave Turkey has never been a socialist country, although that would be much more easily aligned with Islam than a capitalist economy. So they're in a bit of a pickle there. Either their version of Islam has to become liberal or they'll have to embrace a less extreme version of capitalism than what we have.

How does one measure economic prosperity. It's not just the GDP, but a number of other factors. Stuff like having 37 brands of shampoo tends to sort itself out by itself in virtue of demand. One other measure is construction activity which was one of the drivers of their economy, but that doesn't show the big picture. I do not know whether they're in the process of creating a boom and bust situation like we had, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating, you know.

One thing that will bite them in the butt is their national pride. People get arrested because they "insult" the country; if you say something critical about their leadership, you have to be careful not to be charged, etc. those are signs of a dictatorship in the making (like their youtube ban). People in the big cities protest, but the ones out in the country who don't have internet access won't even know what's going on.
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