Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet? ( Archived) (23)

Apr 17, 2015 7:07 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Last summer’s riots in Ferguson, Missouri, prompted much talk by President Obama and certain members of Congress about the need to demilitarize local police forces. Nearly a year later, the opposite is happening.



New and more powerful weapons are flowing into local police departments daily, and still others are new to the marketplace.

One weapon about to make its debut is the “Z-Ro Retinal Obfuscation” gun. When fired, the gun allows an officer to temporarily blind his targeted subject for up to 15 minutes.


Read more at
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Apr 17, 2015 7:38 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Perhaps the powers that be feel a weapon like this is preferential to an officer trying to deal with an extremely violent person opening fire with a revolver.
Bearing in mind that in a shopping mall, bus station ect that opening fire can result in innocent people getting hurt.
Using such a weapon as you have mentioned will subdue the offender allowing the officer to restrain him.
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Apr 17, 2015 7:43 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
well more bad guys with more sophisticated weapons
on the streets
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Apr 17, 2015 7:44 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Perhaps the classic tear gas is still better. crying crying
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Apr 17, 2015 7:48 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
GUZMAN1: Perhaps the classic tear gas is still better.
Hi Guz.
The problem with any sort of gas, if you used in confined areas even the officer can be affected. Outside, any slight breeze can also have the same affect.
The officer also has to be close to the "offender" in order to use it which puts them in danger. handshake
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Apr 17, 2015 7:59 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
Seeing cops are trained to shot at mass, some might say shoot to kill, as more accurate training would take far to long and many cops wouldn't be able to be more accurate. You are now suggesting they can shoot a laser at the eyes with accuracy. Perhaps you are suggesting the target stars at the laser. With present accuracy, how many bystanders would be blinded in the process
A far better tool would be a much higher fitness level, a less gun ho attitude, cops never operating alone.
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Apr 17, 2015 8:19 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
From the manufacturers website :_

"The Z-RO is a technologically advanced Non-Lethal Compliance Weapon System geared toward temporarily subduing offensive targets through temporary, but complete visual obstruction, while preserving the life of both the assailant(s) and law enforcement officer(s). Whether weapon mounted or hand held, our advanced-technology device temporarily and SAFELY obstructs the engaged target’s vision for up to 10-15 minutes. Z-RO inflicts NO lasting damage or harm to the engaged target. The device is 100% effective in forcing active non-lethal compliance over individual or multiple assailing biological targets, and will inflict Z-RO damage to their retina and cornea.

This product is currently being manufactured and should be available soon. To learn more and receive an early demonstration, contact us ASAP to get on the list.

Shield Defense Systems is actively developing a number of exclusive technologies like the Z-RO, and is leading the charge in providing ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS for both military and law enforcement applications regarding effective NON-LETHAL security measures.

It is the primary aim of Shield Defense Systems to minimize the need for more combative measures leading to rising tensions between civilian and security enforcement, while at the same time equipping law enforcement with effective technology to both serve and protect human life."


Sounds to me like a sensible alternative to the shoot and kill we have now.
There are no details about how the Z-RO is used, so I am not sure we can jump to the conclusion that the "victim" has to be shot in the eyes! It could be as simple as shining a torch in someones face.
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Apr 17, 2015 8:25 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
NO lasting damage or harm to the engaged target

Post proof of this. Post scientific studies of this. Post proof that continued firing also doesn't leave damage. Post proof its the same for young children.

What is the min and max distance for use
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Apr 17, 2015 8:26 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
almera03: NO lasting damage or harm to the engaged target

Post proof of this. Post scientific studies of this. Post proof that continued firing also doesn't leave damage. Post proof its the same for young children.

What is the min and max distance for use

Why not contact the manufacturer,I'm sure they will have all the answers you want

!future-products/c1b3s
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Apr 17, 2015 8:29 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
rizlared: Why not contact the manufacturer,I'm sure they will have all the answers you want

!future-products/c1b3s
You posted the comment, I thought you had all the answers.
Did they pay you for advertising for them
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Apr 17, 2015 8:40 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
almera03: You posted the comment, I thought you had all the answers.
Did they pay you for advertising for them


Yes I got a 5 bedroom detached house on the florida keys, a new camero and 1 million in cash





Ask a stupid question gets a stupid replydoh
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Apr 17, 2015 8:46 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
rizlared: Yes I got a 5 bedroom detached house on the florida keys, a new camero and 1 million in cashAsk a stupid question gets a stupid reply
Could be a double bluff........

We're watching you........ ouch, I can't see help
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Apr 17, 2015 8:53 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Exactly how the blinder works without damaging the eye remains a mystery. All the facts about it may never come to light. Whitehead said weapons companies often require cities and counties that purchase their products to sign non-disclosure forms keeping certain facts about the weapon secret.
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Apr 17, 2015 8:54 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
freemind63
freemind63freemind63Mellieha, Majjistral Malta7 Threads 234 Posts
There ARE dangerous people on the Streets, sometimes the police needs to stop them.
I'dd say... An actual gun shooting lethal bullits would be worse than the weapon you mention.
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Apr 17, 2015 9:00 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
freemind63: There ARE dangerous people on the Streets, sometimes the police needs to stop them.
I'dd say... An actual gun shooting lethal bullits would be worse than the weapon you mention.



Boy, am I glad I am living in the UK at the moment, I think!
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Apr 17, 2015 9:09 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
freemind63
freemind63freemind63Mellieha, Majjistral Malta7 Threads 234 Posts
tomcatwarne: Boy, am I glad I am living in the UK at the moment, I think!


To many criminals on the street or to many cops?
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Apr 17, 2015 9:16 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
same weapon, different name.......

November 5, 2005 No this is not a movie prop nor will it be marketed by Mattel for the bigger boys this Christmas– it is one of two working prototypes of a non-lethal laser gun built by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Directed Energy Directorate. The non-lethal illumination technology weapon was developed by the laboratory's ScorpWorks team. Dubbed the PhaSR (who needs a Madison Avenue creative team when you can come up with names like this – an acronym for Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response), it is the first man-portable, non-lethal deterrent weapon and is intended for protecting troops and controlling hostile crowds. The weapon employs a two-wavelength laser system and is a hand-held, single-operator system for troop and perimeter defense. The weapon’s laser light temporarily blinds its targets.

The first two prototypes are being tested by the laboratory's own Human Effectiveness Directorate at Brooks City Base, Texas, and the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate at Quantico, Virginia.

"The future is here with PHaSR," said Capt. Thomas Wegner program manager. Captain Wegner is also the ScorpWorks flight commander within the laser division of the energy directorate here. ScorpWorks is a unit of military scientists and engineers that develops laser system prototypes for AFRL, from beginning concept to product field testing.

The National Institute of Justice recently awarded ScorpWorks US$250,000 to make an advanced prototype that will add an eye-safe laser range finder into PHaSR. Systems such as PHaSR have historically been too powerful at close ranges and ineffective but eye-safe at long ranges. The next prototype is planned to include the addition of the eye-safe range finder and is planned for completion in March 2006.
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Apr 17, 2015 9:20 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
the thing is we all have to live with criminals all around us
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Apr 17, 2015 10:44 AM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
.........and here come the Light-Filters!laugh
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Apr 17, 2015 6:26 PM CST Blinded by laser-armed cops – scared yet?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
stringman: Last summer’s riots in Ferguson, Missouri, prompted much talk by President Obama and certain members of Congress about the need to demilitarize local police forces. Nearly a year later, the opposite is happening.
New and more powerful weapons are flowing into local police departments daily, and still others are new to the marketplace.

One weapon about to make its debut is the “Z-Ro Retinal Obfuscation” gun. When fired, the gun allows an officer to temporarily blind his targeted subject for up to 15 minutes.Read more at


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