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Sep 18, 2015 3:32 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Trump: ‘We’re Gonna Be Looking Into’ How We Can Get Rid of All the Muslims"


By Jon Queally
Global Research, September 18, 2015
Common Dreams
Region: USA
Theme: 9/11 & 'War on Terrorism', Politics and Religion, Poverty & Social Inequality
In-depth Report: U.S. Elections

This article was published today at the GRN on one of the interview with The Donald.


"the pervasiveness of Islamaphobic sentiment was on display once again overnight after Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump fielded a question in New Hampshire about what he planned to do “about getting rid of” all the nation’s Muslims."
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Sep 18, 2015 3:34 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
lindsyjones: Trump: ‘We’re Gonna Be Looking Into’ How We Can Get Rid of All the Muslims"By Jon Queally
Global Research, September 18, 2015
Common Dreams
Region: USA
Theme: 9/11 & 'War on Terrorism', Politics and Religion, Poverty & Social Inequality
In-depth Report: U.S. Elections

This article was published today at the GRN on one of the interview with The Donald."the pervasiveness of Islamaphobic sentiment was on display once again overnight after Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump fielded a question in New Hampshire about what he planned to do “about getting rid of” all the nation’s Muslims."


Front page on the political page. The whole story can be read on Global Reseach News published today.

My question is: Considering what is happening in Europe, is the fight of religion (again) going on? Will it ignite the eruption of WW3?

Any opinion?
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Sep 18, 2015 3:49 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
lindsyjones: Front page on the political page. The whole story can be read on Global Reseach News published today.

My question is: Considering what is happening in Europe, is the fight of religion (again) going on? Will it ignite the eruption of WW3?

Any opinion?




The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm...
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Sep 18, 2015 3:53 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Dedovix: The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm...
dunno confused wave
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Sep 18, 2015 3:54 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Dedovix: The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm...



yes...in pursuit of mass manipulation



The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm (The Hegelian Dialectic)

1) The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others
2) The people react by asking the government for help willing to give up their rights
3) The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis
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Sep 18, 2015 3:59 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
jono7: yes...in pursuit of mass manipulation
The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm (The Hegelian Dialectic)

1) The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others
2) The people react by asking the government for help willing to give up their rights
3) The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis

yep. thats the one thumbs up
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Sep 18, 2015 4:02 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
jono7: yes...in pursuit of mass manipulation
The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm (The Hegelian Dialectic)

1) The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others
2) The people react by asking the government for help willing to give up their rights
3) The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis


So how will the current situation be solved? I understand it is a set up manipulating the ignorance of the people and voila, the government directs all the objective to their benefits at the expense of the people.

Scary..
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Sep 18, 2015 4:14 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
if you don't stop them we will all be living under sharia law. they hate the west and non Muslim. west is regarded as the great Satan to them.
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Sep 18, 2015 4:24 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
stringman: if you don't stop them we will all be living under sharia law. they hate the west and non Muslim. west is regarded as the great Satan to them.


Exactly String, do we, I mean the good natured, peace loving, non hating people allow this to happen? Be careful we will be dubbed as muslim hater since we expose the truth String..wave
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Sep 18, 2015 4:24 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
stringman: if you don't stop them we will all be living under sharia law. they hate the west and non Muslim. west is regarded as the great Satan to them.


Exactly String, do we, I mean the good natured, peace loving, non hating people allow this to happen? Be careful we will be dubbed as muslim hater since we expose the truth String..wave
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Sep 18, 2015 4:31 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
lindsyjones: Exactly String, do we, I mean the good natured, peace loving, non hating people allow this to happen? Be careful we will be dubbed as muslim hater since we expose the truth String..


there is only one way to get rid of all the craziness. get rid of the system they are living under. till then it will continue.
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Sep 18, 2015 4:40 PM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
stringman: there is only one way to get rid of all the craziness. get rid of the system they are living under. till then it will continue.


That is true, String. But what is happening is that it is difficult to change and change the system they are in, would not be effective unless it comes from the very core of them or the system that is in them. The problem is: witnessing the video posted on one of my thread about Islam in Germany, it is very scary. They interviewed Muslim born in Germany at the age of 14 to 18 and they look very convicted to obey the law of their father, than obeying the law of the constitution. A most challenging situation right now going on in there.
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Sep 19, 2015 4:33 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Ref. Daniel Koehler

Isis has grown in just a few years from being a minor rebel group to one of the most successful and dangerous terror organisations ever formed.

One year on from its declaration of its territories as a caliphate, it controls vast swathes of Syria and Iraq, receives new claims of allegiance on an almost monthly basis and inspires terror attacks around the world.

But where will it be in one year’s time? Here, we ask a panel of leading authorities on conflict in the Middle East if they think Isis will have shrunk, maintained its strength – or become more powerful than ever.

Isis will not be able to hold this territory permanently, their finances are not sustaining governmental structures and they already have massive problems with hunger and disease.

Many parts of the population suffer under their occupation, although some parts of the Sunni tribes still see Isis as a better ruler than the Iraqi government for example. But this will also change as soon as Isis cannot provide for them.

Kurdish and Iraqi forces and Allied airstrikes will continue to take a toll on the fighting power of Isis. They will also concentrate more on Syria, as they can be more effective there. The only chance for Isis to survive on the long run is turning into a global terror network.

When we look a year from now in June 2016, it really depends on the leadership of both state and non-state actors. They may or may not have the same physical footprint on the ground, but it’s the virtual footprint I am very concerned about.

The virtual armies will still be active in a year, we will not lose the content that Isis and other groups like it have put out there and the availability for millennials to see that ideology and to be inspired by it will still be present.

Already we are seeing Isis as a functioning state, one where taxes are collected, laws implemented, trade flourishing albeit of course through rule by brutality and fear. They will be looking to reinforce this further.
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Sep 19, 2015 4:53 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
It totally depends on what happens in terms of military efforts, but one thing that we can certainly expect is Isis becoming more international by the day – look at Chechnya, where they appear now to have an affiliate.

This time last year it was a lot easier to understand the idea of Isis, when it was focused on Syria and Iraq. But now it has spread across Africa, the Middle East, the Caucasus.

I would expect it to expand next to open a franchise in Southeast Asia, so perhaps Indonesia or the Philippines. That will probably come in the next few months rather than the next year.

One thing Isis needs to do is look like it’s expanding – regardless of what happens in Syria and Iraq, it will try to continue to expand, establish new borders and project its menace further. It has to do this so it looks powerful, appealing and defiant in the face of the international coalition.

Still in business

One year from now Isis is likely to be still in business - an important question is whether will it advance further and take big cities in western Syria.

Isis will remain as we know it today for at least a year. Depending on how the strategy to fight it improves over the coming months, it is likely to shrink in some areas, especially in those bordering committed local forces such as near the Kurdish and Shia areas in Iraq.

But it is likely to expand in other areas, especially in central and southern Syria. By the end of year, the group will probably keep its size and strength but not in the current form.

Unlikely to implode like al-Qaeda

Organisations like Isis tend to become too extreme and brutal, even for those who see their cause as valid. This has happened in Iraq in the past, when the Awakening Councils essentially almost destroyed al-Qaeda.

But the difference between then and today is that there are no US troops to support such an Awakening, nor is the Iraqi government stable enough to push such a turnaround.

It seems that we have now gone a year and Isis is getting stronger and is still being supported both domestically and internationally by a steady flow of fighters only too willing to give up their lives for the cause.

Unless the group makes a massive mistake in terms of pushing the populations it targets too far with their tactics and strict interpretation of Sharia law, it would seem that the group may still be with us well into 2016.
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Sep 19, 2015 5:24 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: But fill your land with savages and watch how ghetto liberalism increasingly resembles the ghetto. That inward sense of right and wrong will be diluted down with every influx of shame-based people until such time where we have to elect an authoritarian state or ironclad social conformism in order to avoid collapse.


A person with greater pride and capacity for guilt has a greater chance of being better than his environment and all the social influences that entails.

The more vain and shame-based you are, the lesser the chance you'll be above your environment, and the more likely it is for your environment to be used as an excuse for how you behave.
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Sep 19, 2015 5:33 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: A person with greater pride and capacity for guilt has a greater chance of being better than his environment and all the social influences that entails.

The more vain and shame-based you are, the lesser the chance you'll be above your environment, and the more likely it is for your environment to be used as an excuse for how you behave.


That's basically Plato and Aristotle's argument on how to create an orderly society that isn't draconian. And they were the two greatest founders of Western civilisation. We take after them even though there's been a dark age between now and then. The greatest connection Europeans have with ancient Greece is not cultural, it's in the blood and soil.
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Sep 19, 2015 5:55 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: That's basically Plato and Aristotle's argument on how to create an orderly society that isn't draconian. And they were the two greatest founders of Western civilisation. We take after them even though there's been a dark age between now and then. The greatest connection Europeans have with ancient Greece is not cultural, it's in the blood and soil.


Christianity the a strange relationship because in origin it is foreign, savage and shame-based. No better example exists of shame-based culture in the West than Catholicism.

Yet Protestantism is a break away from genuine Christian roots. There's a lot more Aristotle in Protestants than there is in Catholics. Protestantism becomes more about the person and your inward feelings - and less about external authority - and this is the European soul fighting through an alien dogma and doctrine unfitting of the Aryan race.
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Sep 19, 2015 6:06 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Christianity the a strange relationship because in origin it is foreign, savage and shame-based. No better example exists of shame-based culture in the West than Catholicism.

Yet Protestantism is a break away from genuine Christian roots. There's a lot more Aristotle in Protestants than there is in Catholics. Protestantism becomes more about the person and your inward feelings - and less about external authority - and this is the European soul fighting through an alien dogma and doctrine unfitting of the Aryan race.


And this rounds on my original point that religion is what you make of it, but what you make of it has boundaries. We're not a blank-slate at birth so in many respect we're determined to behave in a certain way.

Man can do what he wants but he cannot want he wants:

If today your favourite colour is blue, but for whatever reason you want your favourite colour to now be red, you will wake up tomorrow and your favourite colour will still be blue. This truth opposes everything that equalism and blank-slate liberalism stand for.
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Sep 20, 2015 9:31 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Europe will decide to own its space and keep them out using the same fists of fury method as the Russians.
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Sep 20, 2015 9:47 AM CST Getting rid of all the Muslims or they getting rid of all the Non Muslims
Obstinance_Works: Europe will decide to own its space and keep them out using the same fists of fury method as the Russians.


When? The tide is overturned against all of the native Europeans.
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