Germany suffers the result of Angela Merkel's decision (769)
TheRedSquirrel87: If you think like an ant then only the Queen ant(in this case Merkel)is responsible for the hive. But in the West because we're individualistic it is the cultural consensus of the ants which determine the attitude of the Queen and who that Queen is. We're not a hive, we are a more or less free society.
Having said this, the modern global economy is the way of the hive. Security, stability and efficiency outrank liberty, entrepreneurship and creativity in today's planetary economy and this plays in favour of the oriental insect-like calculators who have always placed efficiency and continuity above the individualism of western free minds.
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TheRedSquirrel87: Having said this, the modern global economy is the way of the hive. Security, stability and efficiency outrank liberty, entrepreneurship and creativity in today's planetary economy and this plays in favour of the oriental insect-like calculators who have always placed efficiency and continuity above the individualism of western free minds.
Credentialism, too. That feature of modern economics will anger individualistic minds who will then more likely question the point of empty learning and refuse to partake. They'll see it as a waste of time.
Ants, on the other hand, will studiously and thoughtlessly acquire baseless certificates. The authority says you need that credential for that job and that's the end of the matter. They will not question.
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TheRedSquirrel87: Having said this, the modern global economy is the way of the hive. Security, stability and efficiency outrank liberty, entrepreneurship and creativity in today's planetary economy and this plays in favour of the oriental insect-like calculators who have always placed efficiency and continuity above the individualism of western free minds.
Where white people would say "free spirit" the yellow people would say "bad attitude".
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TheRedSquirrel87: Where white people would say "free spirit" the yellow people would say "bad attitude".
Excluding perhaps the Germans. Germans are as not as collectivist as the orientals, but they are without the question the most collectivist of all the white peoples. Collectives are not always backward and they're not without strengths.
Hm. The Germans do have that tendency to follow the leader to whatever end and so maybe Merkel is more of a Queen Bee than a Chancellor - at least to a greater extent than other western leaders are.
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How powerless Germany is when returning "refugees" back to their countries of origin:
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Capricorn143: How powerless Germany is when returning "refugees" back to their countries of origin:
But it is possible, right? After all the big chunks left their country not because they are refugees but just migrants. For the real refugees, they should be helped, yes and go back only when their country is stable.
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lindsyjones: Capri, I really believe that the whole world should unite on this one and put them all in one place like either the proposal of some military leaders in the US. Their suggestion is to put them in either Turkey or Jordan and make them live in a sustainable environment and then they can easily returned to their home country when the war is over.
My personal suggestion is to create a camp in North Africa and with the money that Obama gave, 4.1 billion, I am sure with the rest of the other countries, it would work better.
My personal suggestion is to create a camp in North Africa and with the money that Obama gave, 4.1 billion, I am sure with the rest of the other countries, it would work better.
Then this is no longer propelling the calipation movement. And it is good for everyone. Since they refuse to assimilate and respect the host country's culture, then it wouldn't be a challenge for either party anymore.
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lindsyjones: Capri, I really believe that the whole world should unite on this one and put them all in one place like either the proposal of some military leaders in the US. Their suggestion is to put them in either Turkey or Jordan and make them live in a sustainable environment and then they can easily returned to their home country when the war is over.
My personal suggestion is to create a camp in North Africa and with the money that Obama gave, 4.1 billion, I am sure with the rest of the other countries, it would work better.
My personal suggestion is to create a camp in North Africa and with the money that Obama gave, 4.1 billion, I am sure with the rest of the other countries, it would work better.
Lindsey, I think some people (including me) did agree on this option and had to argue with those who tought that these refugees were getting better lives in Europe, a lady in Jordania was even suggesting the same and claimed how terrible it is the camps on the land she is now living at
I am still wondering myself if Turkey and Jordania can't finance for better facility at those camps for Syrian refugees but it turned out that Turkey could at least finance their officials to fight against the Kurds. Wouldn't it better if rich gulf countries and Saudi Arabia also financed these two countries instead of Europe financed Turkey where Turkey is not even a member of EU?
I found an interesting comment from your fellow man regarding this refugee crisis:
"....this is a liberal and greedy Capitalist problem. The liberals want more Muslim immigrants because they vote for expanding the welfare state, and the Capitalists want and endless supply of cheap labor. We are fortunate that in the USA we have an endless supply of cheap labor south of the border who are mostly Christian"
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kaetchenvonhn:
"....this is a liberal and greedy Capitalist problem. The liberals want more Muslim immigrants because they vote for expanding the welfare state, and the Capitalists want and endless supply of cheap labor. We are fortunate that in the USA we have an endless supply of cheap labor south of the border who are mostly Christian"
"....this is a liberal and greedy Capitalist problem. The liberals want more Muslim immigrants because they vote for expanding the welfare state, and the Capitalists want and endless supply of cheap labor. We are fortunate that in the USA we have an endless supply of cheap labor south of the border who are mostly Christian"
And the chaos was created by...Leftist. No wonder.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/british-leftists-lead-violence-as-they-aid-muslim-migrants-to-invade-calais
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kaetchenvonhn: Lindsey, I think some people (including me) did agree on this option and had to argue with those who tought that these refugees were getting better lives in Europe, a lady in Jordania was even suggesting the same and claimed how terrible it is the camps on the land she is now living at
I am still wondering myself if Turkey and Jordania can't finance for better facility at those camps for Syrian refugees but it turned out that Turkey could at least finance their officials to fight against the Kurds. Wouldn't it better if rich gulf countries and Saudi Arabia also financed these two countries instead of Europe financed Turkey where Turkey is not even a member of EU?
I found an interesting comment from your fellow man regarding this refugee crisis:
"....this is a liberal and greedy Capitalist problem. The liberals want more Muslim immigrants because they vote for expanding the welfare state, and the Capitalists want and endless supply of cheap labor. We are fortunate that in the USA we have an endless supply of cheap labor south of the border who are mostly Christian"
I am still wondering myself if Turkey and Jordania can't finance for better facility at those camps for Syrian refugees but it turned out that Turkey could at least finance their officials to fight against the Kurds. Wouldn't it better if rich gulf countries and Saudi Arabia also financed these two countries instead of Europe financed Turkey where Turkey is not even a member of EU?
I found an interesting comment from your fellow man regarding this refugee crisis:
"....this is a liberal and greedy Capitalist problem. The liberals want more Muslim immigrants because they vote for expanding the welfare state, and the Capitalists want and endless supply of cheap labor. We are fortunate that in the USA we have an endless supply of cheap labor south of the border who are mostly Christian"
Kaet, that is the lifeline of the Democrats, that is why neither Hillary nor Obama address them as ISLAMS (yet can't explain what ISIS stands for). and "ILLEGAL" as though it doesn't exactly define the root of the problem is. Because they just want to get more votes from being politically correct sounding people, what a joke.
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kaetchenvonhn: And the chaos was created by...Leftist. No wonder.
British anarchists were among some 35 people under arrest in Calais on Sunday after leading a ‘scandalous’ invasion of the ferry port by some 500 migrants.
Not only did the thugs tear down security fences and threaten violence, but they also defaced a statue of France’s wartime leader and former president Charles de Gaulle.
Masked agitators from the left-wing group No Borders were filmed during the trouble on Saturday afternoon as they tried to get people to the UK.
Wow Kaet, this is absolutely disturbing. Where are they getting that support to have to do this?
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lindsyjones: This might sound crazy Taranoga, but I was thinking that she is kidnapped (the real Merkel) and got replaced by an impostor? You know? Like in the movies?
The thing is, as you said, she was opposed of multiculturalim and yet she has become so different on her position this year.
That is why I posted the blog that reached its limit "Merkel: sympathetic to Syrian Refugees". Only to find out that they were not all refugees but just a a very slim portion.
Go figure!. But we have been discussing that for the last six months. And now this.
The thing is, as you said, she was opposed of multiculturalim and yet she has become so different on her position this year.
That is why I posted the blog that reached its limit "Merkel: sympathetic to Syrian Refugees". Only to find out that they were not all refugees but just a a very slim portion.
Go figure!. But we have been discussing that for the last six months. And now this.
It is not just the Syrian refugees, Europe is awash in migrants within the Euro zone going from poor countries to wealthier countries with better benefits. Europe has open borders between all member countries and no limits on movement. The entire system is absolutely nuts and everyone knows it. I have no idea what their purpose is, other than movement of cheap labor from countries with few jobs to countries with some jobs. Everyone suffers over time.
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lindsyjones: Kaet, that is the lifeline of the Democrats, that is why neither Hillary nor Obama address them as ISLAMS (yet can't explain what ISIS stands for). and "ILLEGAL" as though it doesn't exactly define the root of the problem is. Because they just want to get more votes from being politically correct sounding people, what a joke.
How true.
A comment from other forum summed it up all (hints: airwave)
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lindsyjones: British anarchists were among some 35 people under arrest in Calais on Sunday after leading a ‘scandalous’ invasion of the ferry port by some 500 migrants.
Not only did the thugs tear down security fences and threaten violence, but they also defaced a statue of France’s wartime leader and former president Charles de Gaulle.
Masked agitators from the left-wing group No Borders were filmed during the trouble on Saturday afternoon as they tried to get people to the UK.
Wow Kaet, this is absolutely disturbing. Where are they getting that support to have to do this?
Not only did the thugs tear down security fences and threaten violence, but they also defaced a statue of France’s wartime leader and former president Charles de Gaulle.
Masked agitators from the left-wing group No Borders were filmed during the trouble on Saturday afternoon as they tried to get people to the UK.
Wow Kaet, this is absolutely disturbing. Where are they getting that support to have to do this?
I have no idea, but I am sure even a news like this would make any people of PC or leftist turned their cheeks red
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lindsyjones: British anarchists were among some 35 people under arrest in Calais on Sunday after leading a ‘scandalous’ invasion of the ferry port by some 500 migrants.
Not only did the thugs tear down security fences and threaten violence, but they also defaced a statue of France’s wartime leader and former president Charles de Gaulle.
Masked agitators from the left-wing group No Borders were filmed during the trouble on Saturday afternoon as they tried to get people to the UK.
Wow Kaet, this is absolutely disturbing. Where are they getting that support to have to do this?
Not only did the thugs tear down security fences and threaten violence, but they also defaced a statue of France’s wartime leader and former president Charles de Gaulle.
Masked agitators from the left-wing group No Borders were filmed during the trouble on Saturday afternoon as they tried to get people to the UK.
Wow Kaet, this is absolutely disturbing. Where are they getting that support to have to do this?
Those soap-dodging sociology students are enough to make you welcome the far-right and every blast of machine gun fire that brings.
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It is an absolute BS that these fleas will be a cheap working force, they are bloody lazy in the DNA... I'll pay to see Granny Merkel having them actually doing some work...if she can catch them first...cause she has lost their traces already...
I'll pay to see how the stinky attitude towards women nailed into their heads for hundreds of years will change overnight...
I have no idea how thick you have to be to be willing and dreaming of living in a country (continent) knowing that they don't want you...
I'll pay to see how the stinky attitude towards women nailed into their heads for hundreds of years will change overnight...
I have no idea how thick you have to be to be willing and dreaming of living in a country (continent) knowing that they don't want you...
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lindsyjones: This might sound crazy Taranoga, but I was thinking that she is kidnapped (the real Merkel) and got replaced by an impostor? You know? Like in the movies?
The thing is, as you said, she was opposed of multiculturalim and yet she has become so different on her position this year.
That is why I posted the blog that reached its limit "Merkel: sympathetic to Syrian Refugees". Only to find out that they were not all refugees but just a a very slim portion.
Go figure!. But we have been discussing that for the last six months. And now this.
The thing is, as you said, she was opposed of multiculturalim and yet she has become so different on her position this year.
That is why I posted the blog that reached its limit "Merkel: sympathetic to Syrian Refugees". Only to find out that they were not all refugees but just a a very slim portion.
Go figure!. But we have been discussing that for the last six months. And now this.
I would call her bipolar and the press in Germany was believing a bipolar and was trying to help a bipolar on reaching her goal
This has been on discussion about a week or two on media in Germany getting biased and how they did their propaganda within their published news towards Merkel's refugee policy. Lügenpresse = lying media.
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toranoga: It is not just the Syrian refugees, Europe is awash in migrants within the Euro zone going from poor countries to wealthier countries with better benefits. Europe has open borders between all member countries and no limits on movement. The entire system is absolutely nuts and everyone knows it. I have no idea what their purpose is, other than movement of cheap labor from countries with few jobs to countries with some jobs. Everyone suffers over time.
I am aware of that Tara. I used to live there although not for long, it was enough to know that there were not as many as the migrants of today.
It was a very different in the early 80s. When I was in France three months ago. You can tell easily on the migro, hotels, shops, and stations that the white race is definitely the minority.
Anyways going back to my original post. This is absolutely hurting the native and it has to stop somehow.
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kaetchenvonhn: How true.
A comment from other forum summed it up all (hints: airwave)
A comment from other forum summed it up all (hints: airwave)
Wheww Kaet, a thread that is over 1,500 comments. But I read that part and it represents all what we are feeling here.
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North Korea still hangs on where the Soviet Union(which was a lot better than North Korea)fell apart when it became apparent that the system was that much worse than the capitalist West.
The far east isn't an army, but it is more like the army. The structure, the organisation, the leader and the unblinking obedience of the citizenry means that they win or lose largely based on the ruler. And even when the leadership is clearly losing, and even when the citizens hate the leadership, they'll follow the leader to whatever end. The orientals are instinctively ant colony, they don't even need brainwashing.
However, in the West we generally receive the democracy/government we deserve - i.e. Merkel's attitude towards the refugees reflects the attitude the regular German(especially when she originally made the invitation).
If you think like an ant then only the Queen ant(in this case Merkel)is responsible for the hive. But in the West because we're individualistic it is the cultural consensus of the ants which determine the attitude of the Queen and who that Queen is. We're not a hive, we are a more or less free society.