123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
Babettefr: You can't pretend that religion and politics are not related to the one or to the other,, if there's a conflict in religion,, politics comes in ,,
Generalising things doesn't helps at all,contrary...
123whisper: Generalising things doesn't helps at all,contrary...
Who are we helping here,, i would be more than glad to see if there's one who could acknowledge and be thankful for the help that they got over here,,,
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: By realistic and mentally sane you mean passive. It couldn't be more important than for people like Ali to do something. He is only one man tho he is the right man in the right place at the right time. The only alternative to white patience wearing out and smashing muslims into the dirt is for moderate muslims to civilise Islam.
But this is the absurdity of liberals. Your own plan. Your own Star Trek view of the future depends on people like Ali speaking out and marginalising the zealots. Are things now so warped that nationalists need to remind liberals what their own plan is and how that plan is supposed to work?
Give up on the idea that someone like Ali can make a difference then the world will seek a final solution to Islam. Don't give up.
You finally sound revolutionary I am impressed. Perhaps Ali can't afford to admit that the law in Pakistan is very strict towards disobedient Muslim's who has to hide progressive thoughts...they're afraid of each other even inside family...That's what dogmatic Muslim religion dictatorship does to people and those who are aware can't say it loud without being harshly punished.
TheRedSquirrel87: By realistic and mentally sane you mean passive. It couldn't be more important than for people like Ali to do something. He is only one man tho he is the right man in the right place at the right time. The only alternative to white patience wearing out and smashing muslims into the dirt is for moderate muslims to civilise Islam.
But this is the absurdity of liberals. Your own plan. Your own Star Trek view of the future depends on people like Ali speaking out and marginalising the zealots. Are things now so warped that nationalists need to remind liberals what their own plan is and how that plan is supposed to work?
Give up on the idea that someone like Ali can make a difference then the world will seek a final solution to Islam. Don't give up.
Being active and not passive does not mean throwing out ideas here,,, the battle is not here,, it boils down on how people in a certain country;,, in a majority react, and understand how it's own country is being affected and entwined in the complexity of the issue. Some of the outspoken forumers here don't even realize how it is to be threathened daily to be blasted,, i salute the people from Belgium, France, and maybe UK,,together with their governments in doing their best to protect their population,, Ali,, can't do anything ,, i'm not expecting a lot from him either,, he's the wrong person to beg to ,,
Babettefr: Being active and not passive does not mean throwing out ideas here,,, the battle is not here,, it boils down on how people in a certain country;,, in a majority react, and understand how it's own country is being affected and entwined in the complexity of the issue. Some of the outspoken forumers here don't even realize how it is to be threathened daily to be blasted,, i salute the people from Belgium, France, and maybe UK,,together with their governments in doing their best to protect their population,, Ali,, can't do anything ,, i'm not expecting a lot from him either,, he's the wrong person to beg to ,,
And yet,, we don't hear nor read from them,, for they i'm sure understand more better than the rest here ,, i'm referring to the countries i'm mentioning ,,,
pat8lanips: Well, ladies, if your religion involves squishing your breasts in my face all day, bring it on. Force it on me.
Maybe you men could come something more interesting to sqish to ,, i' m sure you have it ,, lol,, detourn the attention of the ladies,, bring them somewhere ,,,
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: By realistic and mentally sane you mean passive. It couldn't be more important than for people like Ali to do something. He is only one man tho he is the right man in the right place at the right time. The only alternative to white patience wearing out and smashing muslims into the dirt is for moderate muslims to civilise Islam.
But this is the absurdity of liberals. Your own plan. Your own Star Trek view of the future depends on people like Ali speaking out and marginalising the zealots. Are things now so warped that nationalists need to remind liberals what their own plan is and how that plan is supposed to work?
Give up on the idea that someone like Ali can make a difference then the world will seek a final solution to Islam. Don't give up.
And a final solution may not take on the trappings of atrocity and violence. As oil becomes more and more obsolete the muslim world - and particularly the Arab world - will be at the mercy of the rest of the world in a way never known before.
In future years we could make economic decisions which would barely impact upon us and yet would starve the muslim region half to death. They're at our mercy now - any other race would have killed the lot of them - and they will be at our absolute mercy in the times ahead.
Sheikhs may come to control much of the world's finance yet that not is a position of safety. Under capitalism they "earned" that money through black gold and therefore deserve to control finance with their wealth, but because they don't do anything productive they could be easily thrown out from that position. Sheikhs are a non-productive and non-essential section of the capitalist class which would easily become hated.
Babettefr: I'll be off,,, somewhere to worship my God,, he's not here ,,
where ya going BB???
The peeps that i bought my house off many moons ago were indians (not american ones) and worshiped (i don't know really)... they left rotten fruit in my cupboards which grew hair lol
It's not just Minnesota Mosque that producing radical terrorists...it's everywhere...that's why we have so many Aussie born - muslims who went to Syria to support ISIS and many burned Aussie passport.
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