BREXIT STICKING POINT? ( Archived) (43)

Jan 15, 2019 1:44 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
aries1234: The game isn't over yet all there things were expected, and taken into consideration. May has great character and championing the wishes of thw British people.
Oh yes I quite agree , there has never been a UK PM who has worked so hard to sell her country out . And she has been recognized for it by setting a record . She is quite the Quisling isn't she .
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Jan 15, 2019 1:48 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
epirb: Oh yes I quite agree , there has never been a UK PM who has worked so hard to sell her country out . And she has been recognized for it by setting a record . She is quite the Quisling isn't she .
I trust May more than the globalist MP's who want to control things at any cost
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Jan 15, 2019 1:54 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
aries1234: I trust May more than the globalist MP's who want to control things at any cost
At least you know where you stand with May . She has really shown her leadership skills , united a party in a way no other UK PM has managed in the history of The House of Commons .
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Jan 15, 2019 2:08 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland4 Threads 328 Posts
epirb: Oh yes I quite agree , there has never been a UK PM who has worked so hard to sell her country out . And she has been recognized for it by setting a record . She is quite the Quisling isn't she .
Hmmmm, Tony Blair???? Or you talking female only??
...then Maggie

Reading politics long??
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Jan 15, 2019 2:11 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
Cavalero
CavaleroCavaleroVerviers, Liege Belgium12 Threads 4 Polls 701 Posts
The sticking point is that the European Union "leaders" have become tyrannical and those fat cats sitting in Brussels simply cannot accept that their opportunistic, insane and treacherous ideas are being rejected all over Europe.
Their egoes have been bruised comfort and soon, their banks and the other institutions that have raked in the money for the international banksters will be bruised too.
I guess that's when they drag Europe into another world war.
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Jan 15, 2019 2:20 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Saorstat: Hmmmm, Tony Blair???? Or you talking female only??
...then Maggie

Reading politics long??
Sarcasm , no PM has had their plans so rejected as May has had . United they are , against her .
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Jan 15, 2019 2:27 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
EXRED: I think it's all a disgrace, we are a democratic country (I thought ) had a democratic vote, and now I would have expected all parties to get together and get a good deal. The EU has got to big for its boots and is no longer a democratic club.

The DUP appears to be holding us to ransom! This should not be allowed.
The problem is not the D.U.P. The problem is Theresa May.
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Jan 15, 2019 2:46 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
charles_nz: The problem is not the D.U.P. The problem is Theresa May.
DUP is being used as the excuse but not the reason , how can a remainer negotiate an exit ?? when its against her poliical instinct , its absurd and bound to fail .
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Jan 15, 2019 2:48 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
epirb: DUP is being used as the excuse but not the reason , how can a remainer negotiate an exit ?? when its against her poliical instinct , its absurd and bound to fail .
Indeed.
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Jan 15, 2019 3:03 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
Inthecountryside
InthecountrysideInthecountrysideWellington, Somerset, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 313 Posts
epirb: DUP is being used as the excuse but not the reason , how can a remainer negotiate an exit ?? when its against her poliical instinct , its absurd and bound to fail .
And even more when the other negotiators don't want the UK to come out and they know if they don't get their way and other countries have to pick up the bill for lost income from the UK and start seeing after a couple of years the UK are doing better out than in these countries will want to come out as well.

The only difference would have been if a Brexit MP was doing the talking s/he would have just walked away and said there will never be a deal between us what we want so we are wasting our time talking to them.
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Jan 15, 2019 3:09 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
Inthecountryside: And even more when the other negotiators don't want the UK to come out and they know if they don't get their way and other countries have to pick up the bill for lost income from the UK and start seeing after a couple of years the UK are doing better out than in these countries will want to come out as well.
Yes. This "deal" is being stitched up by people who don't want Brexit anyway, so one does not need to be overly cynical to suggest that the real reason for the deal is to make Brexit so unappealing that the idea is dropped altogether.

Britain doesn't need a deal. Britain needs to leave.
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Jan 15, 2019 3:19 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
a basket of opinion : -

If a majority of MPs vote against Mrs May's Government, Labour would have 14 days to prove, by a vote, that it could command a majority and form its own government.

That would allow Labour to take control of the country without going to an election.

The route to a second referendum on Brexit — or a people's vote — is unclear.

But, unless the plan to give control of the process to Parliament is successful, it would require the backing of the Government of the day. A new referendum can be called only if it is approved by Parliament.

The Government could seek to extend the negotiating period with the EU to give it time to try to reach a better deal, hold a general election, or conduct a second referendum.

The UK is scheduled to leave the EU at 11:00pm (local time) on March 29 under the current divorce terms.

The Government could also withdraw its notice of intention to leave the EU, which the European Court of Justice has ruled it can do without consent of other EU countries.

Mrs May has said she does not want to delay Britain's exit from the EU, and will not revoke the notice of intention to leave.

The June 2016 Brexit referendum was a culmination of this lengthy and fraught history. The purpose of the referendum was to resolve the European question: was Britain to leave or remain?

Unlike in 1975 when Britain voted to join with Europe, the result was less than clear. Nationally Leave prevailed by the narrowest of margins (51.9 per cent of the vote). Only the English (53.4 per cent) and the Welsh (52.5 per cent) even voted to leave. Scotland voted to remain by a significant margin (62 per cent) as did Northern Ireland (55.8 per cent).
good read :


Down-under view:
(1) Trump build wall across Ireland
(2) Advertise New Zealand is offering time limited discount on cheese and butter contracts
(3) Advertise Australia is offering time limited discount on Lamb chops.
(4)
(4.a) Greece debt being 178.6% of GDP 340,071,798,103 € and Interest Payments Per Year of 18,419,610,692€,
(4.b) Portugal 125.7% of GDP National Debt Clock says 265,962,955,493€, with Interest Payments Per Year of 8,758,698,850€
(4.c) Spain 98.3% of GDP....



Why would Britain not leave asap???
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Jan 15, 2019 3:21 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
saidmahmoud
saidmahmoudsaidmahmoudHamburg Mitte, Hamburg Germany3 Threads 1 Polls 1,593 Posts
I knew it
I said yesterday that the U.K will not leaving the EU
Indeed
The world's oldest and wisest parliament in the time of mentally disordered leaders around the world
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Jan 15, 2019 3:24 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
saidmahmoud
saidmahmoudsaidmahmoudHamburg Mitte, Hamburg Germany3 Threads 1 Polls 1,593 Posts
aries1234: I trust May more than the globalist MP's who want to control things at any cost

HELLO
MR. ANGRY MAN
beer
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Jan 15, 2019 3:30 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
secludedStar
secludedStarsecludedStarUtah, USA25 Threads 2,288 Posts
saidmahmoud: HELLO
MR. ANGRY MAN
Enjoying speaking english?
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Jan 15, 2019 3:37 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
saidmahmoud
saidmahmoudsaidmahmoudHamburg Mitte, Hamburg Germany3 Threads 1 Polls 1,593 Posts
secludedStar: Enjoying speaking english?
say enjoying communicating with people
4 languages and the 5th on the way beer
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Jan 15, 2019 3:58 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
saidmahmoud: I knew it
I said yesterday that the U.K will not leaving the EU
Indeed
The world's oldest and wisest parliament in the time of mentally disordered leaders around the world
The vote was not against Bexit, bit how we do it, we are stlll leaving on the 29 March regardless.grin
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Jan 15, 2019 4:09 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
Inthecountryside
InthecountrysideInthecountrysideWellington, Somerset, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 313 Posts
robplum: a basket of opinion : -

If a majority of MPs vote against Mrs May's Government, Labour would have 14 days to prove, by a vote, that it could command a majority and form its own government.

That would allow Labour to take control of the country without going to an election.

The route to a second referendum on Brexit — or a people's vote — is unclear.

But, unless the plan to give control of the process to Parliament is successful, it would require the backing of the Government of the day. A new referendum can be called only if it is approved by Parliament.

The Government could seek to extend the negotiating period with the EU to give it time to try to reach a better deal, hold a general election, or conduct a second referendum.

The UK is scheduled to leave the EU at 11:00pm (local time) on March 29 under the current divorce terms.

The Government could also withdraw its notice of intention to leave the EU, which the European Court of Justice has ruled it can do without consent of other EU countries.

Mrs May has said she does not want to delay Britain's exit from the EU, and will not revoke the notice of intention to leave.

The June 2016 Brexit referendum was a culmination of this lengthy and fraught history. The purpose of the referendum was to resolve the European question: was Britain to leave or remain?

Unlike in 1975 when Britain voted to join with Europe, the result was less than clear. Nationally Leave prevailed by the narrowest of margins (51.9 per cent of the vote). Only the English (53.4 per cent) and the Welsh (52.5 per cent) even voted to leave. Scotland voted to remain by a significant margin (62 per cent) as did Northern Ireland (55.8 per cent).
good read :


Down-under view:
(1) Trump build wall across Ireland
(2) Advertise New Zealand is offering time limited discount on cheese and butter contracts
(3) Advertise Australia is offering time limited discount on Lamb chops.
(4)
(4.a) Greece debt being 178.6% of GDP 340,071,798,103 € and Interest Payments Per Year of 18,419,610,692€,
(4.b) Portugal 125.7% of GDP National Debt Clock says 265,962,955,493€, with Interest Payments Per Year of 8,758,698,850€
(4.c) Spain 98.3% of GDP....



Why would Britain not leave asap???
The UK was lied to when we voted to stay in the Common Market in 1975 as people knew that what we call the EU was been formed back then but if this got out most likely we would have voted to get out then against now. (I was too young to vote then)
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Jan 15, 2019 4:10 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
saidmahmoud
saidmahmoudsaidmahmoudHamburg Mitte, Hamburg Germany3 Threads 1 Polls 1,593 Posts
aries1234: The vote was not against Bexit, bit how we do it, we are stlll leaving on the 29 March regardless.
Do you really want to pass through European embassies and consulates and ask for a visa every time you want to spend a summer vacation in a southern European country?
and you know Brexit success actually based on lies
for lies ?
you want to punish yourself ?
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Jan 15, 2019 4:13 PM CST BREXIT STICKING POINT?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
saidmahmoud: Do you really want to pass through European embassies and consulates and ask for a visa every time you want to spend a summer vacation in a southern European country?
and you know Brexit success actually based on lies
for lies ?
you want to punish yourself ?
I think you might find that its more of making sure you pass through a UK embassy before visiting the UK
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