smiley963OPJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
We all meet people, observe them, and form an opinion of them. As you get to know them better, the opinion might evolve or not. After knowing them very well, your opinion has now become fact. They are either a best friend/friend/just someone you know/someone you don't want to know/an enemy!!!
smiley963: We all meet people, observe them, and form an opinion of them. As you get to know them better, the opinion might evolve or not. After knowing them very well, your opinion has now become fact. They are either a best friend/friend/just someone you know/someone you don't want to know/an enemy!!!
When do your opinions become fact?
Smiley never a fact as sometimes you think you know someone and puff, it for me at least, turns and kicks me*
smiley963: We all meet people, observe them, and form an opinion of them. As you get to know them better, the opinion might evolve or not. After knowing them very well, your opinion has now become fact. They are either a best friend/friend/just someone you know/someone you don't want to know/an enemy!!!
When do your opinions become fact?
it's a fact with potential to change. I seldom have a fixed opinion of others and do not do much observation.
smiley963OPJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
felixis99: it's a fact with potential to change. I seldom have a fixed opinion of others and do not do much observation.
It is up to you how you evaluate people, you are your own person, but I like the part "it's a fact with potential to change", so you start with the fact, and not build up to it, interesting!
You can never know everything about someone, even your closest ones... What you think for a fact could be totally your own creation... Sometimes the person you wake up to is one you least know...
smiley963OPJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
pKrema: You can never know everything about someone, even your closest ones... What you think for a fact could be totally your own creation... Sometimes the person you wake up to is one you least know...
Most people wake up to either a one night stand/boyfriend/husband, and them you might not know, but hopefully you have some idea about your kids, parents, brother, sister? You have known them just about always, but yes there might be secrets you have no idea about too, as it is not like some friends, that you only know superficially!
smiley963: It is up to you how you evaluate people, you are your own person, but I like the part "it's a fact with potential to change", so you start with the fact, and not build up to it, interesting!
not really saying that so you are kinda putting words in my mouth but whatever, it's only the interwebz
smiley963: We all meet people, observe them, and form an opinion of them. As you get to know them better, the opinion might evolve or not. After knowing them very well, your opinion has now become fact. They are either a best friend/friend/just someone you know/someone you don't want to know/an enemy!!!
When do your opinions become fact?
Nothing ever becomes fact until it can be proven or happens.
That person with a primarily solitary life? How well does any one know them that they can say for certain is fact, if time isn't taken to find out? What about that person that can't seem to live with out a huge social environment? Are those people compensating or hiding? Do they want to be left alone or can't stand to be alone?
Do they know where the person spends their time when gone? Do they know the person's life style?
Observation might give you a work schedule or some other set schedule. It might give you some habits and seasonal traits.
No matter what, each person has aspects of their lives that they keep to themselves. They have thought processes never voiced. Maybe emotions buried deep with in themselves.
Even siblings and other family members will have their own private sectors of their lives.
It's possible to become knowledgeable about a person. It's possible to establish close ties. It's possible to share and know some secrets. There are a lot of "possibilities". No one should ever take for granted that they know some one as "fact". One of those many possibilities is that a person can turn on a dime and you never knew any more than what they wanted you to see.
opinion a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
fact a thing that is known or proved to be true. Facts are propositions that you think should be useful to others, independent of you as an observer.
i think what the poster above said is important. you will only ever see that which the other has shown, so one's opinion would be much like the parable of the blind men and the elephant.
as well, i believe we tend to be mirrors for each other. everything is in relationship. what you bring out in a person may not be the same as what another person will bring out...
when one needs to be right, (considering their opinion to be fact) they have stopped looking for the truth....similarly they have stopped 'seeing' the other person. they will only notice those things which support their own opinion.
BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand4,733 posts
jono7:
when one needs to be right, (considering their opinion to be fact) they have stopped looking for the truth....similarly they have stopped 'seeing' the other person. they will only notice those things which support their own opinion.
Nice piece of wisdom right there Jono ^^^^^^
I think, also, one's ego can get in the way of seeing other's point of view/opinion.
The above just my opinion, mind due.
I can recall being so bloody-minded in refusing to "let go" of a debate, even when I knew I was beat...
A little more listening actually helps, before we charge in with a response
smiley963OPJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
Draegoneer: Nothing ever becomes fact until it can be proven or happens.
That person with a primarily solitary life? How well does any one know them that they can say for certain is fact, if time isn't taken to find out? What about that person that can't seem to live with out a huge social environment? Are those people compensating or hiding? Do they want to be left alone or can't stand to be alone?
Do they know where the person spends their time when gone? Do they know the person's life style?
Observation might give you a work schedule or some other set schedule. It might give you some habits and seasonal traits.
No matter what, each person has aspects of their lives that they keep to themselves. They have thought processes never voiced. Maybe emotions buried deep with in themselves.
Even siblings and other family members will have their own private sectors of their lives.
It's possible to become knowledgeable about a person. It's possible to establish close ties. It's possible to share and know some secrets. There are a lot of "possibilities". No one should ever take for granted that they know some one as "fact". One of those many possibilities is that a person can turn on a dime and you never knew any more than what they wanted you to see.
smiley963OPJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
jono7: opinion a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
fact a thing that is known or proved to be true. Facts are propositions that you think should be useful to others, independent of you as an observer.
i think what the poster above said is important. you will only ever see that which the other has shown, so one's opinion would be much like the parable of the blind men and the elephant.
as well, i believe we tend to be mirrors for each other. everything is in relationship. what you bring out in a person may not be the same as what another person will bring out...
when one needs to be right, (considering their opinion to be fact) they have stopped looking for the truth....similarly they have stopped 'seeing' the other person. they will only notice those things which support their own opinion.
jmo
Thanx a lot for you voice. Thus: You never get to fact, if you are really interested in that person, else the fact might happen in a millisecond?
smiley963: We all meet people, observe them, and form an opinion of them. As you get to know them better, the opinion might evolve or not. After knowing them very well, your opinion has now become fact. They are either a best friend/friend/just someone you know/someone you don't want to know/an enemy!!!
When do your opinions become fact?
The facts of the matter are clinically detached. You’re talking about triumph of the will where confidence is king. Whatever you say goes regardless of the facts.
smiley963OPJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa3,651 posts
ChesneyChrist: The facts of the matter are clinically detached. You’re talking about triumph of the will where confidence is king. Whatever you say goes regardless of the facts.
Everyone, gets to make their own decisions, without interference.
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When do your opinions become fact?