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Feb 23, 2019 2:16 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
Of the people in our lives, Friends are supposed to be a positive influence, but lots allow negative friendship as well. Why?

Do we actually want to be battered and bruised by some, figuratively speaking? Why?
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Feb 23, 2019 2:56 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
smiley963: So, according to you, people have no right to be themselves, but are told by their government how to behave, and must follow blindly? Which country do you actually live in, definitely not the UK!
People who demand yes-men to stay positive and never criticise are aspiring dictators is my point.

Confused dictators. Your authoritarian personality will likely not be the absolute authority, and what would you do then? Become a yes-man and tyrannise the rank below.
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Feb 23, 2019 3:10 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Which is the good thing about localism and the bad thing about globalism.

Globalism and the internet allows the sorting of the human race into compartments where real life and proximity forces you to mix with people different. The global autistopia and the great narrowing of cliques into scripted and banal relations. People who are actually inspiring are not the Borg, even Jesus had his moment of doubt and pain and he was the son of god.
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Feb 23, 2019 3:12 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
ChesneyChrist: People who demand yes-men to stay positive and never criticise are aspiring dictators is my point.

Confused dictators. Your authoritarian personality will likely not be the absolute authority, and what would you do then? Become a yes-man and tyrannise the rank below.
There are trillions of yes men, and no we are Not referring to dictators here at all. People are people regardless of politics. Never mind what the intimidation, these people will most probably have a front of agreement, but actually act exactly the opposite in their private worlds. If need be people can be anything, as long as they stay themselves. Thus: Drop the politics please?
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Feb 23, 2019 3:35 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
It flies in the face of a leader or a loving person. What use would a leader be if he only hung around with other leaders? What use is love to people already in love with themselves? What could the word inspiration mean if not for the less driven?

There’s such a thing as complementary opposites in this world. Contrasts that work. I don’t like this like for like everywhere the corporatisation of the human species into compartments based on same function.
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Feb 23, 2019 4:23 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It flies in the face of a leader or a loving person. What use would a leader be if he only hung around with other leaders? What use is love to people already in love with themselves? What could the word inspiration mean if not for the less driven?

There’s such a thing as complementary opposites in this world. Contrasts that work. I don’t like this like for like everywhere the corporatisation of the human species into compartments based on same function.
My boyfriend is my complementary opposite, so they definitely exist.
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Feb 23, 2019 7:38 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Who said friends should be a positive influence?
Who said you are a positive influence to your friends?
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Feb 23, 2019 8:05 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
Kidwell_
Kidwell_Kidwell_South East GBA Province, Buenos Aires Argentina17 Threads 2 Polls 767 Posts
smiley963: My boyfriend is my complementary opposite, so they definitely exist.
Is he an imaginary boyfriend?
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Feb 23, 2019 8:38 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
Kidwell_: Is he an imaginary boyfriend?
Smelly is the imagianary one.grin
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Feb 23, 2019 8:49 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
pKrema: Who said friends should be a positive influence?
Who said you are a positive influence to your friends?
Well I guess I must be a good influence, as I'm told that whatever answer I give to a question, proves to always be right.
Them on the other hand like to use me as a sounding board. So is that good or bad?
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Feb 23, 2019 8:53 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
Kidwell_
Kidwell_Kidwell_South East GBA Province, Buenos Aires Argentina17 Threads 2 Polls 767 Posts
pKrema: Who said friends should be a positive influence?
Who said you are a positive influence to your friends?
Who said she's got friends?
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Feb 23, 2019 8:56 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
Kidwell_: Who said she's got friends?
My dear Kiddie. Luckily 99.999999..... of the population are Not like you!
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Feb 23, 2019 9:00 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
Kidwell_
Kidwell_Kidwell_South East GBA Province, Buenos Aires Argentina17 Threads 2 Polls 767 Posts
smiley963: My dear Kiddie. Luckily 99.999999..... of the population are Not like you!
Do not call me Kiddie. My name is Kidwell. Can't you read?
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Feb 23, 2019 9:01 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
Kidwell_: Do not call me Kiddie. My name is Kidwell. Can't you read?
Yes Kiddie!!!
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Feb 23, 2019 11:13 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
Kidwell_
Kidwell_Kidwell_South East GBA Province, Buenos Aires Argentina17 Threads 2 Polls 767 Posts
smiley963: Yes Kiddie!!!
Ok Bozo red nose
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Feb 23, 2019 12:42 PM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Well, I had a friend, he never worked, he woke about 1 pm everyday, then showering coffee and a cigarette, and the rest of the day beer and cigarettes. Later cocaine. His phisical weak girlfriend had to buy him beer about 3-4 times a day after she finished work, and he just sat on the caugh, watching tv or listening to music with the volume way to loud. Sometimes we played chess. Sometimes he went out, to a casino or to a pub. Always driving drunk, he lost his driverslicence about 4-5 times.
Then his parents died, he got 80 grants, and spilled it in about 10 months. They wouldn't give him an unemployment benefit anymore, and so he couldn't pay the rent and was kicked out his house.
That's the last time I saw him, and after all, I am glad about that. We had a lot of fun, but he was just stupid.
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Feb 23, 2019 12:51 PM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
PeKaatje: Well, I had a friend, he never worked, he woke about 1 pm everyday, then showering coffee and a cigarette, and the rest of the day beer and cigarettes. Later cocaine. His phisical weak girlfriend had to buy him beer about 3-4 times a day after she finished work, and he just sat on the caugh, watching tv or listening to music with the volume way to loud. Sometimes we played chess. Sometimes he went out, to a casino or to a pub. Always driving drunk, he lost his driverslicence about 4-5 times.
Then his parents died, he got 80 grants, and spilled it in about 10 months. They wouldn't give him an unemployment benefit anymore, and so he couldn't pay the rent and was kicked out his house.
That's the last time I saw him, and after all, I am glad about that. We had a lot of fun, but he was just stupid.
It is very sad, when people don't want to work, and doesn't have the funds to pay for their lifestyle, and others have to keep them. Very unfair.
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Feb 23, 2019 6:13 PM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
Human Nature dictates that we will often be as attracted to negative influences as to positive ones. We need to be always vigilant.
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Feb 24, 2019 6:49 AM CST Friends - Are they all positive influences?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
charles_nz: Human Nature dictates that we will often be as attracted to negative influences as to positive ones. We need to be always vigilant.
We all have times when we step out of the norm for us, it is then that negativity attracts. Thus it depends on how your moods fluctuate in you, as to how you will react to them. People can condition themselves to behave, but hardly ever!
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