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Sep 11, 2020 9:04 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
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Sep 12, 2020 11:31 AM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It's not fake news it's just a noose for the naive. Given the level of green technology implementing it now would kill the poor and impoverish us all. The likelihood is that only the west is born with enough silver spoon up its back to do this. And the difference it makes to global warming would be a drop in the ocean.

Whether it's nuclear or hydrogen or some other renewable the alternative has to be better, cheaper and safer than the methods we use now. Green will make a difference when it is good not when it feels good. Pissing all the money away on feelgood when what you could have is something that is good. Time to concentrate on research.
Well, a large part of the co2 emission is because of building houses out of concrete. About 20%. Today I saw an interview with a man who builded his house from hennepchalk. Not the hennep you smoke, you dopeheads...
The stuff they use to make ropes, they put it in water, and put chalk into the water too. The fiber makes large blocks that also is getting co2 out of the air.
Also building houses of wood is better than building concrete houses.

We still can save the world, but we can't wait too long anymore, or we're doomed to follow the polarbears. Extinction.
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Sep 12, 2020 12:14 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
PeKaatje: Well, a large part of the co2 emission is because of building houses out of concrete. About 20%. Today I saw an interview with a man who builded his house from hennepchalk. Not the hennep you smoke, you dopeheads...
The stuff they use to make ropes, they put it in water, and put chalk into the water too. The fiber makes large blocks that also is getting co2 out of the air.
Also building houses of wood is better than building concrete houses.

We still can save the world, but we can't wait too long anymore, or we're doomed to follow the polarbears. Extinction.
Build houses out of wood depletes forests and diminishes climate control which messes up the environment worse than the use of fossil fuels in my humble opinion.

teddybear
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Sep 12, 2020 12:26 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
PeKaatje: Well, a large part of the co2 emission is because of building houses out of concrete. About 20%. Today I saw an interview with a man who builded his house from hennepchalk. Not the hennep you smoke, you dopeheads...
The stuff they use to make ropes, they put it in water, and put chalk into the water too. The fiber makes large blocks that also is getting co2 out of the air.
Also building houses of wood is better than building concrete houses.

We still can save the world, but we can't wait too long anymore, or we're doomed to follow the polarbears. Extinction.
CO2 isn't the realy problem. In fact the more CO2 in the atmosphere the better it is for the trees and other plant based live..they thrive in high CO2 environments and in return they breathe out oxygen....and guess what we need to breathe?

Everyone's attention has been diverted to the climate and CO2 levels..while the planet is being doused in pollutants and wrapped in plastic....it's the latter two you should be shouting about, not CO2 levels....

Also, planet earth naturally peaks and troughs in and out of ice ages and it has done for hundreds of millions of years. Currently we are in a warm phase when we should be getting colder, Our activities are keeping the planet warmer for sure...and that's not a bad thing, given the alternative is the northern hemisphere freezing again...but co2 is not the devil incarnate is..all the chemicals, oil spills, sewage and nigtrogen etc being poured into the sea are what will cause our downfall and far far faster than any amount of CO2 in the atmosphere....
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Sep 12, 2020 12:34 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blathin: CO2 isn't the realy problem. In fact the more CO2 in the atmosphere the better it is for the trees and other plant based live..they thrive in high CO2 environments and in return they breathe out oxygen....and guess what we need to breathe?

Everyone's attention has been diverted to the climate and CO2 levels..while the planet is being doused in pollutants and wrapped in plastic....it's the latter two you should be shouting about, not CO2 levels....

Also, planet earth naturally peaks and troughs in and out of ice ages and it has done for hundreds of millions of years. Currently we are in a warm phase when we should be getting colder, Our activities are keeping the planet warmer for sure...and that's not a bad thing, given the alternative is the northern hemisphere freezing again...but co2 is not the devil incarnate is..all the chemicals, oil spills, sewage and nigtrogen etc being poured into the sea are what will cause our downfall and far far faster than any amount of CO2 in the atmosphere....
Nitrogen poured into the seas LN2?

You can counter co2 with greater emissions of fugitive particulate which can block the sun’s light thus diminishing global warming.

gift teddybear
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Sep 12, 2020 12:35 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
galrads: Build houses out of wood depletes forests and diminishes climate control which messes up the environment worse than the use of fossil fuels in my humble opinion.
yeh it all adds up for sure..but .there's no harm using concrete to build houses as it's a seriously durable material. It's the way it's being made that's the problem, and the inordinate amount of water being used in it's production,..

Given the planets population and the fact that it's going to be iro 10billion in the next 50 years or so ( I can't remember exact timeline on that so it might be longer), it doesn't matter what we do, we are going to have a negative impact...there's no way around it. It's just really disheartening to see the alternatives methods/matierals being ignored in the name of profit and unwillingness to change..
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Sep 12, 2020 12:38 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
Meanwhile, the Californian electrical grid is so outdated and useless stations are underpowered or being shut down from overuse by customers desperate for energy. Even Musk wants to leave California due to mismanagement and so are thousands of residents fed up with Democrats and Pelosi's policies. Illegal migration will only make the situation worse along with crime and this is what socialism causes. Ghettos, corruption, violence, neglect of legal citizens, and violence from communist anarchists.
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Sep 12, 2020 12:42 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
Blue_Nile00
Blue_Nile00Blue_Nile00New Town, Wiltshire, England UK5 Threads 123 Posts
Yawn.
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Sep 12, 2020 12:45 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
galrads: Nitrogen poured into the seas LN2?

You can counter co2 with greater emissions of fugitive particulate which can block the sun’s light thus diminishing global warming.
Ah sorry that was bad;/lazy writing on my part there Galrads...I meant the use of agricultural fertilisers that end up being washed into the sea via drains and rivers etc...

I've no idea what LN2 is....but nitrogen is common in many if not most fertilisers.

You can counter CO2 with particulates??? Counter what Galrads?

Diminishing the sun's light is not a road we should even think about going down....ever!
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Sep 12, 2020 12:52 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Blue_Nile00: Yawn.
Yeh I guess as long as the likes of Primark and McDonanlds stays open you're world is happy...roll eyes roll eyes

Maybe you might find the climate a bit more interesting when your grandchildren are suffocating to death because you were too busy shopping in Primarks for cheap tat made with millions of litres of chemicals that have poisoned the sea and killed of all the plankton ..you're contributing to the problem you know...through sheer ignorance....
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Sep 12, 2020 12:54 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blathin: Ah sorry that was bad;/lazy writing on my part there Galrads...I meant the use of agricultural fertilisers that end up being washed into the sea via drains and rivers etc...

I've no idea what LN2 is....but nitrogen is common in many if not most fertilisers.

You can counter CO2 with particulates??? Counter what Galrads?

Diminishing the sun's light is not a road we should even think about going down....ever!
Environmental science 101 dear blathin ....
Co2 increases the temperature of the earth’s surface
And
Fugitive particulate blocks the sun and thus decreases surface temperature

Ln2 = liquid nitrogen
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Sep 12, 2020 12:56 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
GeneralBeacon: Meanwhile, the Californian electrical grid is so outdated and useless stations are underpowered or being shut down from overuse by customers desperate for energy. Even Musk wants to leave California due to mismanagement and so are thousands of residents fed up with Democrats and Pelosi's policies. Illegal migration will only make the situation worse along with crime and this is what socialism causes. Ghettos, corruption, violence, neglect of legal citizens, and violence from communist anarchists.
Again...it's the lack of socialism that's created the problem...an epiphany you seem yet to have!.

Socialism doesn't cause Ghettos etc....selfiishness, greed and really bad management are the cause. Even a child could see that one...seems you infantile middle aged American men struggle with the concept..roll eyes
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Sep 12, 2020 1:06 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
galrads: Environmental science 101 dear blathin ....
Co2 increases the temperature of the earth’s surface
And
Fugitive particulate blocks the sun and thus decreases surface temperature

Ln2 = liquid nitrogen
Ok...if you think that's the sum total of what's going on up in the atmosphere then it's no wonder you made the very amateurish mistake of mixing up nitrogen with liquid nitrogen...

christ....these google experts roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes
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Sep 12, 2020 1:08 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blathin: Ok...if you think that's the sum total of what's going on up in the atmosphere then it's no wonder you made the very amateurish mistake of mixing up nitrogen with liquid nitrogen...

christ....these google experts
Ive got your google in ky 33 year career in air quality with epa ms snows it all teddybear
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Sep 12, 2020 1:14 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
galrads: Ive got your google in ky 33 year career in air quality with epa ms snows it all
Eh excuse me? Can you say that again..in english this time? cheers doh lol
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Sep 12, 2020 1:22 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
GeneralBeacon
GeneralBeaconGeneralBeaconNew York, USA2,381 Posts
blathin: We;re not talking about any country or countries...we're talking about global climate..and the climate doesn't care what nationality the pollution is...it's still pollution....

The first few words of your 2nd paragraph says the rest isn't worth reading..it's just a mindless vacuous rant.

Back to the climate if you have anything worthwhile to add....probably not..
Nothing you post is worth reading... I just do because it's hilarious and a form of leftist entertainment full of misinformation. laugh
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Sep 12, 2020 1:24 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
blathin: Eh excuse me? Can you say that again..in english this time? cheers lol
Otay... Ive got your google in my 33 year career working in air quality with epa ... ms knows it all laugh
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Sep 12, 2020 1:26 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin: Again...it's the lack of socialism that's created the problem...an epiphany you seem yet to have!.

Socialism doesn't cause Ghettos etc....selfiishness, greed and really bad management are the cause. Even a child could see that one...seems you infantile middle aged American men struggle with the concept..
rolling on the floor laughing
Apparently you haven't seen the Ghettos and utterly polluted Areas in Socialist Russia,and Socialist Eastern Europe!
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Sep 12, 2020 1:32 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
blathin
blathinblathinGlasgow, Central, Scotland UK3,125 Posts
Conrad73: Apparently you haven't seen the Ghettos and utterly polluted Areas in Socialist Russia,and Socialist Eastern Europe!
God...this is getting tedious...roll eyes

I've already said I wasn't talking about any particular country. The climate can't tell the difference. It doesn't matter where the pollution is coming from, it wil have the same effect if it's Russia or the US..

When you and your like can get that into your head and get over your seriously infantile politicising of every damn thing..then maybe proper, serious and mature discussion might get somewhere...
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Sep 12, 2020 1:32 PM CST California raises the price of gas to sell electric cars and
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Conrad73: Apparently you haven't seen the Ghettos and utterly polluted Areas in Socialist Russia,and Socialist Eastern Europe!
I wonder if its as bad there as it is along the US coastline, NY, Chicago or other democrat managed places here?
I bet they don't tolerate people defecation and urinating on public streets and sidewalks In russia and eastern europe.
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