Great Britain sends 2 Naval ships (51)
Surely a more proportionate response would be to send a fleet of fishing boats rather than the navy.
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jac_the_gripper: Fish quotas are different, aren't they?
That's how much fish can be taken, rather than leaving no fishing zones.
No fishing zones allows for undisturbed breeding areas which is the salient point with respect to sustainability, as I understand it.
Catch based quota entitles a fisher to catch a certain amount (usually in kgs or tonnes) of a fish species, fish stock, or sometimes a group of species/stocks, in a fishing season which can be up to a year in length. Fishing boats must have enough fishing quota to cover the amount of fish that they catch.That's how much fish can be taken, rather than leaving no fishing zones.
No fishing zones allows for undisturbed breeding areas which is the salient point with respect to sustainability, as I understand it.
Works much the same.
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tomcatty: Catch based quota entitles a fisher to catch a certain amount (usually in kgs or tonnes) of a fish species, fish stock, or sometimes a group of species/stocks, in a fishing season which can be up to a year in length. Fishing boats must have enough fishing quota to cover the amount of fish that they catch.
Works much the same.
No, I don't think it does.Works much the same.
You're missing the point of having undisturbed breeding areas with respect to long term sustainability and bounty.
We all need to make changes towards sustainability. It's not just about a centuries old rivalry between the French and British and it being all their fault.
We are all at fault.
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jac_the_gripper: No, I don't think it does.
You're missing the point of having undisturbed breeding areas with respect to long term sustainability and bounty.
We all need to make changes towards sustainability. It's not just about a centuries old rivalry between the French and British and it being all their fault.
We are all at fault.
It is all their fault.You're missing the point of having undisturbed breeding areas with respect to long term sustainability and bounty.
We all need to make changes towards sustainability. It's not just about a centuries old rivalry between the French and British and it being all their fault.
We are all at fault.
But I take your point
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tomcatty: It is all their fault.
But I take your point
But I take your point
Britannia will rule the waves again.
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The sun set on that empire many years ago. Now they send the navy to do battle against a bunch of fishermen, squabbling over a few hundred square miles of muddy water.
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pat8lanips: The sun set on that empire many years ago. Now they send the navy to do battle against a bunch of fishermen, squabbling over a few hundred square miles of muddy water.
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Yeah, but they think you should share the muddy water, or something. Maybe it's time to draw a line in the mud.
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pat8lanips: Yeah, but they think you should share the muddy water, or something. Maybe it's time to draw a line in the mud.
It really is nothing to do with you old chap, no offense
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We are still part of the Commonwealth, the Queen is our head of state... So technically, it is.
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pat8lanips: We are still part of the Commonwealth, the Queen is our head of state... So technically, it is.
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tomcatty: It's not a commonwealth issue, but an argument between France and England
Just had a thought T.C. Isn't it amazing that the French can try to blockade Jersey fishing boats in St. Helier, yet are unable to stop immigrants from leaving their shores to come to the U.K.
C'est incroyable mais vrai
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Unable or unwilling?
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Tiger_Moth: Just had a thought T.C.
Isn't it amazing that the French can try to blockade Jersey fishing boats in St. Helier, yet are unable to stop immigrants from leaving their shores to come to the U.K.
C'est incroyable mais vrai
Why should fishermen be responsible for immigration issues? Isn't it amazing that the French can try to blockade Jersey fishing boats in St. Helier, yet are unable to stop immigrants from leaving their shores to come to the U.K.
C'est incroyable mais vrai
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jac_the_gripper: Why should fishermen be responsible for immigration issues?
The French fishermen were responsible for ferrying many immigrants, especially, Albanians to these shores at one time or were you not aware of that fact.
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Tiger_Moth: The French fishermen were responsible for ferrying many immigrants, especially, Albanians to these shores at one time or were you not aware of that fact.
No, I wasn't.Presumably they do it for a fee, which is the same reason that they want to blockade St. Helier - they want an income.
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jac_the_gripper: No, I wasn't.
Presumably they do it for a fee, which is the same reason that they want to blockade St. Helier - they want an income.
Think this has more to do with Brexit and the new rulings, and as you stated earlier we really do need to have sustained fishing in our waters.Presumably they do it for a fee, which is the same reason that they want to blockade St. Helier - they want an income.
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Tiger_Moth: Think this has more to do with Brexit and the new rulings, and as you stated earlier we really do need to have sustained fishing in our waters.
I thought the new rulings due to Brexit restricted the amount the French could fish in British waters in some way.I thought the blockade of St. Helier was about causing a functional loss to the British to use as a bargaining tool to regain their functioning capabilities.
French fishermen smuggling immigrants into the UK is a seperate issue, other than both actions stem from the fishermen's need, or desire to earn a living.
If we throw pebbles in the pond of discrimination, whether that's to do with Anglo-French relations, or immigration issues, how can we see any effective solutions?
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jac_the_gripper: I thought the new rulings due to Brexit restricted the amount the French could fish in British waters in some way.
I thought the blockade of St. Helier was about causing a functional loss to the British to use as a bargaining tool to regain their functioning capabilities.
French fishermen smuggling immigrants into the UK is a seperate issue, other than both actions stem from the fishermen's need, or desire to earn a living.
If we throw pebbles in the pond of discrimination, whether that's to do with Anglo-French relations, or immigration issues, how can we see any effective solutions?
I don't think there is a solution Jac. The P.M. needs to take total control our fishing waters as this has always been a stumbling block with Brexit. Jersey has the right to question the history of French fishermen within their waters which is why they are protesting. It was the French fishermen themselves that demanded Jersey's electricity supply be cut, which in itself is deplorable .I thought the blockade of St. Helier was about causing a functional loss to the British to use as a bargaining tool to regain their functioning capabilities.
French fishermen smuggling immigrants into the UK is a seperate issue, other than both actions stem from the fishermen's need, or desire to earn a living.
If we throw pebbles in the pond of discrimination, whether that's to do with Anglo-French relations, or immigration issues, how can we see any effective solutions?
The EU will use any excuse to cause Britain problems over many issues, such as trying to block our vaccine deliveries etc.
My remark re immigration was a tad tongue in cheek but a volatile subject none the less.
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That's how much fish can be taken, rather than leaving no fishing zones.
No fishing zones allows for undisturbed breeding areas which is the salient point with respect to sustainability, as I understand it.