Mohammad Ramiz Bakr, 11, Ahed Atef Bakr and Zakariya Ahed Bakr, both 10, and Ismail Mahmoud Bakr, nine, were kids playing football on the beach when they were targeted by Israeli fire, note there are no military installations around nor any militants..
PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
No, it doesn't gave me the answers. But I think all problems are religion-related and did the jews not claim they were God's people. Didn't Gideon fought the battle of Jericho, occupying the city. chasing away and killing everyone inside the walls. How about Orthodx jews, whos till behave like they can do anything they like, even hurting other people who are not Orthodox?
Maybe the Israelian people should first look at themselves and change things before they ask the rest of the world to accept them. They're there, sitting on their throne, high above the other people, well, he who climbs high, can take a deep fall.
PeKaatje: No, it doesn't gave me the answers. But I think all problems are religion-related and did the jews not claim they were God's people. Didn't Gideon fought the battle of Jericho, occupying the city. chasing away and killing everyone inside the walls. How about Orthodx jews, whos till behave like they can do anything they like, even hurting other people who are not Orthodox?
Maybe the Israelian people should first look at themselves and change things before they ask the rest of the world to accept them. They're there, sitting on their throne, high above the other people, well, he who climbs high, can take a deep fall.
Religious freedom is very important to have, as important if not more important than free speech.
PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
religious freedom? Everyone knows the churches have some power, and in the past they had much more power. Burning people who dind't believe the things the churches preached. And still, if you are born from christian parents, you will be taken to church by your parents, baptimized, etc. Or how about the muslims and their circumstance?
The children don't choose what to believe, they are told what to believe. No freedom at all, pure indoctrination. And this will never change, for even the schools are related to the religions.
PeKaatje: religious freedom? Everyone knows the churches have some power, and in the past they had much more power. Burning people who dind't believe the things the churches preached. And still, if you are born from christian parents, you will be taken to church by your parents, baptimized, etc. Or how about the muslims and their circumstance?
The children don't choose what to believe, they are told what to believe. No freedom at all, pure indoctrination. And this will never change, for even the schools are related to the religions.
i had slim to no freedoms when I was young. not sure what your point is.
PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
No, I'm talking about freedom of choice only. Children don't have the choice, they are forced by their parents, the school and/or the church. And in the time of the witchhunts, did people had a choice? Heathens often got the same penalty as witches, burning alive. The church is preaching hell for the non believers, it's like putting a gun to someone's head and say: Do you believe me, or do you prefer to die.
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