Importance of science and spirituality in life. ( Archived) (28)

Jun 20, 2022 8:39 PM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
Decent_Love
Decent_LoveDecent_LovePrayagraj, Uttar Pradesh India411 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
The religious-book which is the basis of all religions is a collection of someone's Wisdom Experience.
Practical experience of wisdom inside you, is spirituality. Obeying others wisdom without self experience, is called religion.
Due to lack of self-experience of wisdom, sometimes it takes the form of religious fanaticism.

Reading the Holy-Book for self experience of wisdom, makes you spiritual. Reading Holy-Book just to please some God, makes you religious. The Holy-Book was not written to please any God. Rather, it was written to get rid of one's sorrows by experiencing Wisdom himself. A lot of proselytism and genocide happened to please God, also it is happening now and it will happen in the future too.

When everyone will understand? that to be happy or angry is a human's instinct, not a God's instinct.


Holy-books and Science-books are priceless. Use it to make human's life easier not complicated.

Use Science-book to make cheap electricity from nuclear energy, not to make nuclear bomb.

Use the Holy-Book to soften yourself, not to harden yourself.

angel
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Jun 21, 2022 5:52 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: But it does support the idea of 'the divine' does it not?
That depends what you mean by the divine. As most monotheist religions describe the Divine or God, you can only say that does not exist in Bhuddhism.
But there are forms of gods and demi gods in Buddhist teachings although the are regarded to be existing in different realms, praying to them would be pointless. A person coule practice Buddhism for a lifetime and never give these gods a single thought.
Then there are tantric deities which are reached through rituals, symbolism and yogic practices to evoke experiences that lead to enlightenment.
Another level of being which Bhuddist attempt to achieve through prayer and ritual is that of bodhisattva (enlightened being) through bodhi citta (enlightened mind)
It it totally accepted that none of these states can exist separate from ourselves as it's believed the true nature of things is no phenomenon can exist seaparate from any other. If there were a god, or gods they could not exist as a separate phenomenon......

**"Tantric meditational deities should not be confused with what different mythologies and religions might mean when they speak of gods and goddesses. Here, the deity we choose to identify with represents the essential qualities of the fully awakened experience latent within us. To use the language of psychology, such a deity is an archetype of our own deepest nature, our most profound level of consciousness. In tantra we focus our attention on such an archetypal image and identify with it in order to arouse the deepest, most profound aspects of our being and bring them into our present reality." (Introduction to Tantra: A Vision of Totality , p. 42)

**Lama Thubten Yeshe
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Jun 21, 2022 7:06 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: That depends what you mean by the divine. As most monotheist religions describe the Divine or God, you can only say that does not exist in Bhuddhism.
But there are forms of gods and demi gods in Buddhist teachings although the are regarded to be existing in different realms, praying to them would be pointless. A person coule practice Buddhism for a lifetime and never give these gods a single thought.
Then there are tantric deities which are reached through rituals, symbolism and yogic practices to evoke experiences that lead to enlightenment.
Another level of being which Bhuddist attempt to achieve through prayer and ritual is that of bodhisattva (enlightened being) through bodhi citta (enlightened mind)
It it totally accepted that none of these states can exist separate from ourselves as it's believed the true nature of things is no phenomenon can exist seaparate from any other. If there were a god, or gods they could not exist as a separate phenomenon......

**"Tantric meditational deities should not be confused with what different mythologies and religions might mean when they speak of gods and goddesses. Here, the deity we choose to identify with represents the essential qualities of the fully awakened experience latent within us. To use the language of psychology, such a deity is an archetype of our own deepest nature, our most profound level of consciousness. In tantra we focus our attention on such an archetypal image and identify with it in order to arouse the deepest, most profound aspects of our being and bring them into our present reality." (Introduction to Tantra: A Vision of Totality , p. 42)

**Lama Thubten Yeshe
''The divine'' is within us... only religions set 'it' as being 'an entity' outside of us and needing ''to honour or fear or pray to 'it' ''...

Some 'enlightning/enlightenment' experiences can be spontaneous rather than 'produced' through rituals etc...
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Jun 21, 2022 7:25 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
Boss man works in mysterious wayswave
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Jun 21, 2022 7:37 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Selenite: ''The divine'' is within us... only religions set 'it' as being 'an entity' outside of us and needing ''to honour or fear or pray to 'it' ''...

Some 'enlightning/enlightenment' experiences can be spontaneous rather than 'produced' through rituals etc...
I have spent quite some time with someone who had a spontaneous awakening. Sometimes 1 to 1 bit mainly in small groups. Sadly he passed away at the age of 96 having spent most of his life passing on his widom to anyone who turned up at his small house in Manchester.....

Not I, Not Other Than I. The life and teachings of Russel Williamd

"Russel Williams is one of the most remarkable enlightened spiritual teachers of our time. After an early life of extreme hardship—leaving school at the age of 11, and becoming an orphan shortly afterwards—he underwent a spiritual awakening at the age of 29. Since the late 1950s, he has been a spiritual teacher, and is still actively teaching now, at the age of 94. Previously, Russel has avoided publicity and never published any writings or transcripts of his talks, preferring to work quietly with small groups. This is the first time any details of his teachings or of his life have appeared in print. This book is partly a record of his teachings, and partly also the story of his extraordinary life. Working with well-known spiritual author Steve Taylor—who has attended Russel’s meetings regularly since the 1990s—Russel has created a profound text which will surely become known as a classic of spiritual literature."

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Jun 21, 2022 7:42 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
bodleing2: I have spent quite some time with someone who had a spontaneous awakening. Sometimes 1 to 1 bit mainly in small groups. Sadly he passed away at the age of 96 having spent most of his life passing on his widom to anyone who turned up at his small house in Manchester.....

Not I, Not Other Than I. The life and teachings of Russel Williamd

"Russel Williams is one of the most remarkable enlightened spiritual teachers of our time. After an early life of extreme hardship—leaving school at the age of 11, and becoming an orphan shortly afterwards—he underwent a spiritual awakening at the age of 29. Since the late 1950s, he has been a spiritual teacher, and is still actively teaching now, at the age of 94. Previously, Russel has avoided publicity and never published any writings or transcripts of his talks, preferring to work quietly with small groups. This is the first time any details of his teachings or of his life have appeared in print. This book is partly a record of his teachings, and partly also the story of his extraordinary life. Working with well-known spiritual author Steve Taylor—who has attended Russel’s meetings regularly since the 1990s—Russel has created a profound text which will surely become known as a classic of spiritual literature."

Thanks for sharing thumbs up
He sounds like an extraordinary man
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Jun 22, 2022 9:28 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
I praise our Lord everyday from feelins

quite astonisin in fairness

dancing
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Jun 22, 2022 9:38 AM CST Importance of science and spirituality in life.
Long live the tooth faireyprofessor grin the
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