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Aug 4, 2022 12:43 PM CST Family values
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Selenite: Absolutely stereotyping is never cute and although I agree that culture is different from family values,
in some cultures 'family values' have different content and boundaries where it seeems the culture influences the family values being taught within the family.

I could see that even as a Spanish person growing in France. Our own family values and my friends family values were different because our culture influenced the values we were taught in our family.
Yes, exactly. In the western world family values are defined as the nuclear family when the nuclear family is itself next to singledom. It's already on a course that prioritises me time as the family is slowly rationalised away to the point where we forget how to breed and start calling people over 60 young.
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Aug 4, 2022 12:53 PM CST Family values
Order! ORDER! (bang bang) rolling on the floor laughing grin

So.... forget values then...
but what does FAMILY ORIENTED mean... tell me what it really means.
If anybody know the Asian culture, that is.
Can a lazy dude like me do that? I don't think soo.....

By the way I'll ask my childhood friend Philip tomorrow,
he lived in China for a decade drinking

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Aug 4, 2022 12:59 PM CST Family values
gonelikethewimd
gonelikethewimdgonelikethewimdOsprey, Florida USA3,320 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Yes, exactly. In the western world family values are defined as the nuclear family when the nuclear family is itself next to singledom. It's already on a course that prioritises me time as the family is slowly rationalised away to the point where we forget how to breed and start calling people over 60 young.
You should be with the old ladies I work with and hang with. We call ourselves old all the time....and, laugh as time brings about changes...

There are many good people out in the real world CC...women too, believe it or not.

Get out in the real world...strike up a conversation with some of those old women....they might make you laugh..and not take life so seriously...
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Aug 4, 2022 1:02 PM CST Family values
Well said gonny! lips
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Aug 4, 2022 1:04 PM CST Family values
gonelikethewimd
gonelikethewimdgonelikethewimdOsprey, Florida USA3,320 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Order! ORDER! (bang bang)

So.... forget values then...
but what does FAMILY ORIENTED mean... tell me what it really means.
If anybody know the Asian culture, that is.
Can a lazy dude like me do that? I don't think soo.....

By the way I'll ask my childhood friend Philip tomorrow,
he lived in China for a decade
I have talked to one of my son’s college friends who was here getting a degree in to teach English in China.

That pays very well there....they want to be English speaking.

He was gay and could never be gay in China..and, he knew that.

He was an only son and he knew it would bring shame on his family..and, if he came out he would most likely be put to death...

BTW..they still abort female fetuses in the hope to have a son.
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Aug 4, 2022 1:11 PM CST Family values
gonelikethewimd: I have talked to one of my son’s college friends who was here getting a degree in to teach English in China.

That pays very well there....they want to be English speaking.

He was gay and could never be gay in China..and, he knew that.

He was an only son and he knew it would bring shame on his family..and, if he came out he would most likely be put to death...

BTW..they still abort female fetuses in the hope to have a son.
Yea, too wild for me.
I also asked my china correspondent friend I mentined if China folk was for me
and he said no of some reason, and I think we landed on Phillipines and Indonesians
being two good options (in my search).
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Aug 4, 2022 1:44 PM CST Family values
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Hi Tiger. Thanks for the relevant input
(not)
Does it matter what one person think old age is?
My papa died at 79 and I'd say he was very young at heart,
and body too- except of clogged up arteries.
Not at all as it is just that ,a number. Unfortunately some people are old before their time so to speak whereas others are young at heart.

It's all about attitudehead banger
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Aug 4, 2022 2:04 PM CST Family values
Grandsiozzie: Does anybody know what Asans have in mind when they emphasize
family values in their profiles?
For a westerner like me that words meaning is unclear.
Help me out of you know what it really means.
My dearest friends in Portland had two foreign exchange students from Japan. The young women were absolutely delightful--the "family" end of it is all about courtesy. ("Charity Begins At Home", etc...) The school year is about 11 months, and often 10 hours a day, rather than the occidental five or six. Every year, until their equivalent of Senior High, the "Master Teacher" goes to EACH student's home for a full day, and then reports on family life and values to their version of a school board. Children are given tasks from the time they can walk, according to their age and ability. House rules are very strict, and punishment for misdemeanors is usually some time of confinement or "grounding". Grandparents are the "Big Shots", and any rebellion to a grandparent or discourtesy is met with harsh reprimanding.
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Aug 4, 2022 2:38 PM CST Family values
rohaan: My dearest friends in Portland had two foreign exchange students from Japan. The young women were absolutely delightful--the "family" end of it is all about courtesy. ("Charity Begins At Home", etc...) The school year is about 11 months, and often 10 hours a day, rather than the occidental five or six. Every year, until their equivalent of Senior High, the "Master Teacher" goes to EACH student's home for a full day, and then reports on family life and values to their version of a school board. Children are given tasks from the time they can walk, according to their age and ability. House rules are very strict, and punishment for misdemeanors is usually some time of confinement or "grounding". Grandparents are the "Big Shots", and any rebellion to a grandparent or discourtesy is met with harsh reprimanding.
Ok, thanks. So it's 1964 all over again then.
I wonder what it would have meant for me as a visitor,
and all the expectations
laid on me...
It's her I wanna date, not her whole crew...uh oh
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Aug 4, 2022 2:41 PM CST Family values
But sure... it may be a tad less dramitique than that, esp if I am smart enogh to go for a mature one.
Iet the 30+ go cos it's much harder I imagine, go for 45 and up.
By the way, you can't own property there.
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Aug 4, 2022 4:01 PM CST Family values
Coldheaven
ColdheavenColdheavenNorthern Ireland Belfast, Antrim Ireland13 Threads 1 Polls 3,147 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Does anybody know what Asans have in mind when they emphasize
family values in their profiles?
For a westerner like me that words meaning is unclear.
Help me out of you know what it really means.
My partner of 23 years is half Asian on his mothers side. and was born and raised in Hong Kong.
Now almost all of his siblings live in Belfast for the past 35 years and are British citizens.
His parents are now deceased but when they were alive he and his siblings would send money home to make sure the parents were looked after during their retirement.
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Aug 4, 2022 4:04 PM CST Family values
Coldheaven
ColdheavenColdheavenNorthern Ireland Belfast, Antrim Ireland13 Threads 1 Polls 3,147 Posts
The parents owned property through the years from this so when they died it was sold off and distributed back between the seven siblings.
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Aug 4, 2022 4:48 PM CST Family values
Coldheaven: The parents owned property through the years from this so when they died it was sold off and distributed back between the seven siblings.
Thanks Coldheaven.
Yes I too see it as a (very) good and right thing to do to help your parents back
as they deserve, no question about that. I bet we have planty things to learn from
their culture on this.

Best way I can find out more about Asian ways of life is to go there myself and find out
and this can be done on holiday. Don't have to dramatically burn bridges and
travel there with a briefcase "full of cash" to hand to the head of the family.
I realice that is not how it works.

Still, why the focus on family 'values' is for me unclear, like
what has that got to do with me? I'll visit them respectfuly, I will.
I'll take my shoes of before entering the house, certainly.
But what more is there in store for me(?).


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Aug 4, 2022 4:52 PM CST Family values
Coldheaven
ColdheavenColdheavenNorthern Ireland Belfast, Antrim Ireland13 Threads 1 Polls 3,147 Posts
It really depends on which Asian country you go to. Hong Kong is a rich country. Other Asian countries are very poor.
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Aug 4, 2022 5:52 PM CST Family values
Friendship4ever
Friendship4everFriendship4everSan Bernardino, California USA2 Threads 1,466 Posts
It's the traditional way of life.

Like honour your mother & father.
In public the woman must walk behind the man.
Arrange marriages, etc, etc, etc........
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Aug 4, 2022 8:05 PM CST Family values
gonelikethewimd
gonelikethewimdgonelikethewimdOsprey, Florida USA3,320 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Here:

"I am looking for Kind loving understanding, honest and Family oriented.."
Sorry, I did not see this before.

She is looking for someone who is a home body..meaning someone who would stay home and live a traditional life. Not someone who is a partier or someone who would go to bars...

I think, you are over thinking it.
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Aug 4, 2022 8:16 PM CST Family values
gonelikethewimd
gonelikethewimdgonelikethewimdOsprey, Florida USA3,320 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Yea, too wild for me.
I also asked my china correspondent friend I mentined if China folk was for me
and he said no of some reason, and I think we landed on Phillipines and Indonesians
being two good options (in my search).
Not all gay people are wild...

You just see them characterized like that in the news.

Most just want someone to be a lifelong partner..and, be loyal, kind, and to love them.
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Aug 5, 2022 1:17 AM CST Family values
gonelikethewimd: Not all gay people are wild...

You just see them characterized like that in the news.

Most just want someone to be a lifelong partner..and, be loyal, kind, and to love them.
...nono... you got me wrong.
I meant: to not be abae to be gay in China and maybe even be killed over it is a tad too much even for oldfashioned conservative me. I have always beleved in freedom. One life, it's yours and you do what you'd like with it(!) as long as you don't hurt others.
So: China too wild (for my taste).
By the way I'm good friends with rohaan here and he is gay.
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Aug 5, 2022 1:59 AM CST Family values
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Does anybody know what Asans have in mind when they emphasize
family values in their profiles?
For a westerner like me that words meaning is unclear.
Help me out of you know what it really means.
I would interpret family values as wanting a man who would stand by his family, especially wife and children, no matter what happens.
As for what family values mean to Asians, it might be better to ask the individuals involved. Asia is a huge continent and encompasses very varied cultures. Even in China itself, 1.6 billion people might not all have the same thoughts on the matter, even if there is a general consensus. Talk to the lady that interests you and ask her what she expects in terms of family values. Communication is key, surely. You can communicate your expectations as well. It's a two way street.
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Aug 5, 2022 2:23 AM CST Family values
I'm probably overthinking it some.

If I go for my own age it's also less to worry about then.

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