How do you view the law? ( Archived) (20)

Apr 7, 2007 4:22 PM CST How do you view the law?
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
I think that laws were for the most, part legislated to provoke morality among us.

I also believe that laws should and must be enforced to protect the innocent as well as the criminal. For justice to the innocent. And to protect the criminal from mass hysteria. However it would be cheaper and quicker to let them have him or her.

Pro life was inacted due to personal opinion, or conscience of a majority. Or how good you are at turning the words to the constitution around to fit your needs. I however do not have to vote "freedom of choice", I am pro life all the way. That would be my vote. Those are MY morals.

I am not exactly pro gay nor am I anti gay. I am not gay, so I cannot pretend to have personal knowledge of it. I must in my own conscience let people be who they are. Live and let live. Whether I understand it or not, has no real value to gay people, not to you. It is that I understand that they are people too, and have their rights as I do. Human rights.

Legislation should be thought out and discussed between people of mental competency, without emotion coming into play. Given a vote of the people, and making that count. I don't see that happening. It all has personal emotions within it. That's how it all began, because of beliefs and emotions.

It is my opinion that to let people have the freedom to hold their own moral values in an egalitarian free society, would be nothing more than a lawless world where it becomes a free game society. If you don't agree with them , run them off. If they do something you don't like, kill them. It would be pretty much the same as in hundreds or even thousands of years ago. Even in the 50's and 60's, when if you looked different or didn't fit in, you were ostercised, hated, or even killed.

There are many parts of the law I do not agree with. And many parts that I do.
For instance should the same punishment for the same crime have the same outcome? It doesn't. Shouldn't the law have to prove you did it, and not you having to prove that you didn't? Shouldn't a person that was busted smoking a joint get less time than a cold blooded murderer? Just saying.
Kat
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Apr 7, 2007 4:31 PM CST How do you view the law?
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
I subscribe in all baby

People should separate the moral values from laws.Difficult task for limited people...that's why it's much easy to be a dictator on a non educated sociaty
conversing . If you don't separete that in your head, someone will mixe it all!grin
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Apr 7, 2007 5:42 PM CST How do you view the law?
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
Which law confused
the law of power and oppression dunno
the jungle law mumbling
or the law of equality and love wink
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Apr 7, 2007 5:55 PM CST How do you view the law?
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
or thouse perhaps


Aigner's Axiom:
No matter how well you perform your job, a superior will seek to modify the results.


The Airplane Law:
When the plane you are on is late, the plane you want to transfer to is on time.


Baruch's Observation:
If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Cole’s Law:
thinly sliced cabbage.


Dedera's Law of Probabilities:
In a three-story building served by one elevator, nine times out of ten the elevator car will be on a floor where you are not.


Etorre's Observation:
The other line always moves faster.


First Law of Aviation:
Takeoff is optional, landing is compulsory.


First Law of Debate:
Never argue with a fool -- people might not know the difference.


First Law of Socio-Genetics:
Celibacy is not hereditary.


Harris Lamnet:
All the good ones are taken.


Oliver Herford's Rule of Publishing
A manuscript is something submitted in haste and returned at leisure.


Hockett's Fundamental Principle of Mathmaticizing:
If you know exactly how to, you don't have to!



Imbesi's Law of the Conservation of Filth:
In order for something to become clean, something else must become dirty.


Jacquin's Postulate on Democratic Government:
No mans life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.


Las Vegas Law:
Never be on a looser because you think his luck is bound to change.


Law of Probable Dispersal:
Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

Lynch's Law:
When the going gets tough, everyone leaves.


McDonald's Corollary to Murphy's Law's:
In any given set of circumstances, the proper course of action is determined by subsequent events.


Meadow's Maxim:
You can't push on a rope.


Schopenhauer's Law of Entropy:
If you put a spoonful of wine in a barrel full of sewage, you get sewage. If you put a spoonful of sewage in a barrel full of wine, you get sewage.


Shapiro's Explanation:
The grass is always greener on the other side - but that's because they use more manure.


Simon's Law of Destiny:
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity if forever.


Skoff's Law:
A child will not spill on a dirty floor.


Smith's Law:
No real problem has a solution.
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Apr 7, 2007 5:59 PM CST How do you view the law?
lvslife
lvslifelvslifemoore, USA223 Threads 2,565 Posts
Actually, many are. Then there are those that aren't as guilty as the law, ot the punishment makes it seem.
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May 11, 2007 10:14 AM CST How do you view the law?
LOLjuzme
LOLjuzmeLOLjuzmeinstate, Washington USA19 Threads 447 Posts
I think the big problem with the question/issue, is that some view an issue as being political/moral, while another sees it the opposite. Take the gay rights issue for example. Some say no gay rights. On the one hand it can be political because of all the laws and crap that would have to be rewritten/defined, especially in the "marriage" area. To others it is moral, as they believe that being gay is a sin, and that "marriage" is between a man and a woman. Too hard to say who is, isn't being "protected" in this issue. Should those who have respect for the institution of marriage as it has always been defined be protected or the ones who want to alter the definition to suit their needs?
Illegal immigrants are another tricky one. Some say it is immoral to keep them out, others say it is immoral for them to keep breaking the law by coming here the way they do, etc. Their are also political arguments on both sides of this issue.

First you would have to sort out which laws were ONLY moral or political before you could even answer the question.

And the truth is that politicians are about the most immoral group in general, so would we really want them having anything to do with it? LOL
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May 11, 2007 10:49 AM CST How do you view the law?
tampa1
tampa1tampa1London, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,057 Posts
Now all we have to do Abra is get the politian's to think this way, and what a much better world it would be. I think all to often legislation is made on moral beliefs not real or true needs in many cases. It's the old do as I say, not as I do mentality.

Pete
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May 11, 2007 11:47 AM CST How do you view the law?
travolta1956
travolta1956travolta1956Adelaide, Australia21 Threads 252 Posts
Im a bit of a rebel, F--k the law. cheers
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May 11, 2007 12:00 PM CST How do you view the law?
Frenchgirl2know
Frenchgirl2knowFrenchgirl2knowChicago, USA29 Threads 2,548 Posts
I have more pleasure personally to understand the human that to judge them... wine
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May 11, 2007 12:09 PM CST How do you view the law?
MarkDwayne
MarkDwayneMarkDwayneDoha, Qatar225 Posts
But do you understand ...*me*?

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May 11, 2007 12:18 PM CST How do you view the law?
Frenchgirl2know
Frenchgirl2knowFrenchgirl2knowChicago, USA29 Threads 2,548 Posts
Hi Mark... I try, I try... Even if I feel to have opened an indecipherable scrawl...uh oh dunno
tongue
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May 11, 2007 12:22 PM CST How do you view the law?
kevduf
kevdufkevdufColumbia, Missouri USA7 Threads 1,386 Posts
I agree with the idea that Laws are there to protect our individual freedom. That is what was sacred to teh founding fathers. Look at the Bill of Rights. There were no moral laws the founders thought important enough to enshrine in the Consitution.

Let church handle the moral stuff. cheers
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May 11, 2007 12:24 PM CST How do you view the law?
MarkDwayne
MarkDwayneMarkDwayneDoha, Qatar225 Posts
Indecipherable ...scrawl?!

<waves hand>

"you are strangely attracted to this tall gentleman in a small country so far, far away!"




wine
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May 11, 2007 12:28 PM CST How do you view the law?
MarkDwayne
MarkDwayneMarkDwayneDoha, Qatar225 Posts
As to the original post..

I proabably lean fairly conservative on many issues, and downright Libertarian on many, and would prefer not to really label myself as a Republican or Democrat...

I do not, however, believe in making laws based on emotional knee-jerk feel good measures for politics' sake...

This seems to be the state of the USA today...

Laws made for grandstanding...usually suck!
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May 11, 2007 12:41 PM CST How do you view the law?
Frenchgirl2know
Frenchgirl2knowFrenchgirl2knowChicago, USA29 Threads 2,548 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing Does it need I close my eyes Mr Hypnotist?? confused
wave
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May 11, 2007 12:49 PM CST How do you view the law?
kevduf
kevdufkevdufColumbia, Missouri USA7 Threads 1,386 Posts
Agreed!!

It seems laws are made simply to pacify the masses, instead of looking at the long term ramifications of the laws.
The "War on Drugs" is a perfect example. Creating a black market for goods always drives up the costs, and those costs are passed on to those who can least afford it, the crackhead, the junkie. So, they commit crimes to buy the drugs with inflated prices. So, the drug dealers get rich, and I get my car stereo stolen and pawned off. So not fair!!

I am also more libertarian than conservative or liberal, so these laws that the Dems and Repubs pass to pander to their base just annoy me so much! laugh
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Jun 28, 2007 12:52 AM CST How do you view the law?
Roguecop
RoguecopRoguecopElko, Nevada USA218 Threads 3,885 Posts
Laws are meant to govern society
And unfortunately, some law makers who are deeply religious fail to realize that not every one shares the same code of ethics as they do.
And they tend to write laws which impose their morals onto society instead of using the law to curtail wrong doing.
A lot of the laws now days are out dated badly.
I do not claim to know everything, but Church and State were suppose to be kept separate, and at time it bleeds over.
Our forefathers wer not the smartes men around the soda shop, but they were bright enough to write the laws so that they could be upgraded and changed as society changed.
Sometimes the wheels of justice move very slowly.
Now if that doesn't make it clear as Mudd I don't know what else to tell ya :)
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Jun 28, 2007 2:01 AM CST How do you view the law?
Shinedown7593
Shinedown7593Shinedown7593Roseville, USA47 Threads 667 Posts
Some laws I agree with but most laws i do not. I also believe there is mans law and there is gods law.
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Jun 28, 2007 2:03 AM CST How do you view the law?
Shinedown7593
Shinedown7593Shinedown7593Roseville, USA47 Threads 667 Posts
The problem with a lot of these holy roller law makers is their biased views have nothing to do with what god would have intended in the first place.
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Jun 28, 2007 3:22 AM CST How do you view the law?
Hennery
HenneryHenneryVentura, California USA31 Threads 855 Posts
professor The LAW is much like modern ART it is best viewd at great distance and the less you have to do with it, The Happier your life will be... innocent
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