I think that laws were for the most, part legislated to provoke morality among us.
I also believe that laws should and must be enforced to protect the innocent as well as the criminal. For justice to the innocent. And to protect the criminal from mass hysteria. However it would be cheaper and quicker to let them have him or her.
Pro life was inacted due to personal opinion, or conscience of a majority. Or how good you are at turning the words to the constitution around to fit your needs. I however do not have to vote "freedom of choice", I am pro life all the way. That would be my vote. Those are MY morals.
I am not exactly pro gay nor am I anti gay. I am not gay, so I cannot pretend to have personal knowledge of it. I must in my own conscience let people be who they are. Live and let live. Whether I understand it or not, has no real value to gay people, not to you. It is that I understand that they are people too, and have their rights as I do. Human rights.
Legislation should be thought out and discussed between people of mental competency, without emotion coming into play. Given a vote of the people, and making that count. I don't see that happening. It all has personal emotions within it. That's how it all began, because of beliefs and emotions.
It is my opinion that to let people have the freedom to hold their own moral values in an egalitarian free society, would be nothing more than a lawless world where it becomes a free game society. If you don't agree with them , run them off. If they do something you don't like, kill them. It would be pretty much the same as in hundreds or even thousands of years ago. Even in the 50's and 60's, when if you looked different or didn't fit in, you were ostercised, hated, or even killed.
There are many parts of the law I do not agree with. And many parts that I do. For instance should the same punishment for the same crime have the same outcome? It doesn't. Shouldn't the law have to prove you did it, and not you having to prove that you didn't? Shouldn't a person that was busted smoking a joint get less time than a cold blooded murderer? Just saying. Kat
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
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People should separate the moral values from laws.Difficult task for limited people...that's why it's much easy to be a dictator on a non educated sociaty . If you don't separete that in your head, someone will mixe it all!
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I think the big problem with the question/issue, is that some view an issue as being political/moral, while another sees it the opposite. Take the gay rights issue for example. Some say no gay rights. On the one hand it can be political because of all the laws and crap that would have to be rewritten/defined, especially in the "marriage" area. To others it is moral, as they believe that being gay is a sin, and that "marriage" is between a man and a woman. Too hard to say who is, isn't being "protected" in this issue. Should those who have respect for the institution of marriage as it has always been defined be protected or the ones who want to alter the definition to suit their needs? Illegal immigrants are another tricky one. Some say it is immoral to keep them out, others say it is immoral for them to keep breaking the law by coming here the way they do, etc. Their are also political arguments on both sides of this issue.
First you would have to sort out which laws were ONLY moral or political before you could even answer the question.
And the truth is that politicians are about the most immoral group in general, so would we really want them having anything to do with it? LOL
Now all we have to do Abra is get the politian's to think this way, and what a much better world it would be. I think all to often legislation is made on moral beliefs not real or true needs in many cases. It's the old do as I say, not as I do mentality.
I agree with the idea that Laws are there to protect our individual freedom. That is what was sacred to teh founding fathers. Look at the Bill of Rights. There were no moral laws the founders thought important enough to enshrine in the Consitution.
I proabably lean fairly conservative on many issues, and downright Libertarian on many, and would prefer not to really label myself as a Republican or Democrat...
I do not, however, believe in making laws based on emotional knee-jerk feel good measures for politics' sake...
It seems laws are made simply to pacify the masses, instead of looking at the long term ramifications of the laws. The "War on Drugs" is a perfect example. Creating a black market for goods always drives up the costs, and those costs are passed on to those who can least afford it, the crackhead, the junkie. So, they commit crimes to buy the drugs with inflated prices. So, the drug dealers get rich, and I get my car stereo stolen and pawned off. So not fair!!
I am also more libertarian than conservative or liberal, so these laws that the Dems and Repubs pass to pander to their base just annoy me so much!
Laws are meant to govern society And unfortunately, some law makers who are deeply religious fail to realize that not every one shares the same code of ethics as they do. And they tend to write laws which impose their morals onto society instead of using the law to curtail wrong doing. A lot of the laws now days are out dated badly. I do not claim to know everything, but Church and State were suppose to be kept separate, and at time it bleeds over. Our forefathers wer not the smartes men around the soda shop, but they were bright enough to write the laws so that they could be upgraded and changed as society changed. Sometimes the wheels of justice move very slowly. Now if that doesn't make it clear as Mudd I don't know what else to tell ya :)
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I also believe that laws should and must be enforced to protect the innocent as well as the criminal. For justice to the innocent. And to protect the criminal from mass hysteria. However it would be cheaper and quicker to let them have him or her.
Pro life was inacted due to personal opinion, or conscience of a majority. Or how good you are at turning the words to the constitution around to fit your needs. I however do not have to vote "freedom of choice", I am pro life all the way. That would be my vote. Those are MY morals.
I am not exactly pro gay nor am I anti gay. I am not gay, so I cannot pretend to have personal knowledge of it. I must in my own conscience let people be who they are. Live and let live. Whether I understand it or not, has no real value to gay people, not to you. It is that I understand that they are people too, and have their rights as I do. Human rights.
Legislation should be thought out and discussed between people of mental competency, without emotion coming into play. Given a vote of the people, and making that count. I don't see that happening. It all has personal emotions within it. That's how it all began, because of beliefs and emotions.
It is my opinion that to let people have the freedom to hold their own moral values in an egalitarian free society, would be nothing more than a lawless world where it becomes a free game society. If you don't agree with them , run them off. If they do something you don't like, kill them. It would be pretty much the same as in hundreds or even thousands of years ago. Even in the 50's and 60's, when if you looked different or didn't fit in, you were ostercised, hated, or even killed.
There are many parts of the law I do not agree with. And many parts that I do.
For instance should the same punishment for the same crime have the same outcome? It doesn't. Shouldn't the law have to prove you did it, and not you having to prove that you didn't? Shouldn't a person that was busted smoking a joint get less time than a cold blooded murderer? Just saying.
Kat