Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no... ( Archived) (282)

May 8, 2007 4:45 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
That's not really true. It's criticism of government and people who still follow them. I know not everbody supported the war and a lot of people did change their mind but have you read what some of the people in this thread have posted? Clearly not everybody woke up and that's disturbing.
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May 8, 2007 4:45 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
sexysweeti
sexysweetisexysweetiClinton, USA22 Threads 1,788 Posts
This is a stupid Ameican bashing thread anyway. I never knew that many Germans took such delight in watching a country suffer for the mistake of it's leader. Stand up, yeah...we are...sit and criticize us while we do.
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May 8, 2007 4:48 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
BeQuu
BeQuuBeQuuAntwerpen, Belgium48 Posts
Funguy made a good comment, its not about suffering ... its about being so stubborn and proud about passport identities ...
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May 8, 2007 4:48 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
sexysweeti
sexysweetisexysweetiClinton, USA22 Threads 1,788 Posts
So what? That is what freedom is all about. Like I said earlier there can be no evolution without the freedom to error. some people may never change there mind. But Bush's rating is 3%, why do you people care so much that EVERYONE don't think just like you.
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May 8, 2007 5:11 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
heinzketchup
heinzketchupheinzketchupFort Mill, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 1,799 Posts
There are always people that dislike sending troops to overseas, particularly in Germany, but I am able to relate this.
It costs a lot of money (even the German army has no cash for painting the barracks in their own country)
I believe the German army was founded after the world war, the basic principle was, using weapons only for defense in own country, traceable for the disaster happend in Europe from 1939 - 1945.
Many people in the country remember that.
PS: In those days (1933) a guy promised not tax free gasoline or no VAT, but jobs for all, cars and free holidays for everybody... and won the election....
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May 8, 2007 7:40 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
Yes, but that's ages ago and thankfully Germany learned from it. And the reason that people don't want to send out the military is for the same reason not just economically. After being almost completely destroyed during WWII it became obvious for future generations that exaggerated nationalism and invading other countries does not lead to any good.
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May 8, 2007 7:46 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
I posted before that his approval rating is about 38 % at the moment and I do care about it because it has an effect on me. Resources and taxes are being wasted while they would be much needed for health care, schools, etc. And none of it made anyone any safer.

I don't know if don't want or can't understand what I've been trying to tell you several times now: that it's not about bashing America. But you keep bringing it up over and over again. I don't know why you support the extreme conservatives so much if you don't even agree with them. That doesn't help the progress.
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May 9, 2007 1:15 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
there is no one sided here.If you want facts at least ours are documented.And you call what they call proof.It is nothing more than the enquirer.
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May 9, 2007 1:28 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
Nettermann
NettermannNettermannDiekirch, Luxembourg6 Threads 965 Posts
doh
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May 9, 2007 1:28 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
How do you know? You don't even read the papers...
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May 9, 2007 1:31 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
And what sources do you get your facts from?
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May 9, 2007 2:32 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
highfidelity
highfidelityhighfidelityEurope, Lower Saxony Germany37 Threads 2,287 Posts
some people just are repeating themselfs without knowledge or insight or even real interest in knowing the facts on world matters, they see only their own little life as center of the world -

I made in my mind a simple calculation -
With 30 % of the money abducted into Militarism - a free school and university system with free medical assistance to a whole generation in your country could have been paid for.

with another 30 % a wonderful peace effort - making the world a saver place could have been financed and it would have brought the US real glory - long term allies and business.

The trillion of taxes and credits taken to finance this wars are the glory of hedgefonds not of American freedom and respect of human life in the world.

doh comfort
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May 9, 2007 9:03 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
lady dont be messin,you are talking to one whose family fought in the states between them .And killed our own kin off.As for reading a paper and watch the news ,I do.But for you its so easy copy paste those so called facts.And I call facts as documented when they are made proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.As for all the atrosities you say our soldiers have committed then it wi ll be filed in one of our government agencies.Anytime charges or even assumptions are made against soldier it is handled by whatever branch they are in.But for you all to make remarks that our soldiers have killed for no reason is just pushing it.As for the rags you get them from,puleeze.But I will tell you two things that we will kill you over,thats kin and our country.
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May 9, 2007 9:05 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
Icarus799
Icarus799Icarus799Chicago, Illinois USA16 Threads 287 Posts
And we routinely murder the English language.
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May 9, 2007 9:30 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
heinzketchup
heinzketchupheinzketchupFort Mill, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 1,799 Posts
laugh Gonna look da aol chat 4 see wat peopl doin 2 language.
wow
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May 9, 2007 11:26 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
Yeah, but those are mostly 8 year old girls, not adults giggle
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May 9, 2007 11:34 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
Actually, nobody is blaming the soldiers. They do what they are told. We feel sorry for them because most have been tricked into this war under false pretenses while the troops themselves had good intentions trying to do the right thing. It's very unfortunate that so many people had to die on either side for no reason. Yes, no reason. The fact that it's not their fault makes it worse. That's why I can't understand why you still support a man who continues to kill them and others.
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May 9, 2007 11:35 AM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
But Bush doesn't read the papers either (he said so himself). doh
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May 9, 2007 12:38 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
And that's supposed to make me feel better???frustrated
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May 9, 2007 1:03 PM CST Imagine what would be ...if we all stand up and say no...
sexysweeti
sexysweetisexysweetiClinton, USA22 Threads 1,788 Posts
I don't see you making any progress and changing anyone's mind on a dating site. If you like to fight politics there are political forums. I have been there and trust me there are many different opinions on this situation and you may have to evolve a little yourself. There are some well educated conservatives who use very good English and grammar skills so you wouldn't be able to criticize them for that. They would probably slap you around a bit with their own facts. They have them.
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