Why do you persist in Bush bashing? Enlighten me USA. ( Archived) (392)

Well Mr. Chase Righty. First of all you're a Canuck so quit being a war monger it doesn't suit you.

We should end the war in Iraq and let equilibrium take hold. Our sorry loss in Vietnam didn't precipitate a global calamity, neither will this.

I don't think I have attacked anyone simply on their writing skills, horrendous as they might be. What I have attacked, and often viciously, have been people who have tried to deny facts. Facts are not opinions.

It enrages me when people say my son is fighting for your rights in Iraq. Sorry ma'am your son, unfortunately, missed out on an education and could only find this type of employment. My rights are not being trampled in Iraq but are certainly under threat in Washington D.C.

No but unfortunately you never had a brain. Not trying to be insulting just stating facts.

By all measures Iraq was much safer than it is now. Just check your facts. Facts, facts, facts!

My point is that you're telling people off when they post something that you find insulting to others, why not let the ones who supposedly are insulted answer for themselves...
Maybe you'll find that people weren't offended in the first place in some cases...
That's why I called you threadpolice...

Actually, reading your post now, I just understood why you're in Iraq, and we're not...

"First, they ignore. Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you. Then you win."

Mahatma Gandhi

Sounds good, I'll trade our governor boy wonder Matt Blunt for just about anyone!!!

Mr Zebari, Foreign Minister of Iraq since 2004, is one of the few successful and internationally highly regarded ministers in post-Saddam Hussein Iraqi government.

He said that both the US and Iran had to realise that the other has a stake in what is happening in Iraq. "No matter how dismissive the Iranians are about not talking to the Americans, the Americans are players here. And even if the Americans view the Iranians negatively they are here; they are players whether we want it or not." Mr Zebari is triumphant over the success of the summit on Iraq held in Sharm el-Shaikh last week, seeing it as an early step in defusing confrontation between Tehran and Washington. He pointed out that, unlike most of Iraq's Arab neighbours, Iran supports the present government of prime minister Nouri al-Maliki.

"Iran doesn't want to bring down this government," he says. "It's friendly, its Shia-led; they know everybody in it. They could not find a better government in a lottery. It came to power legitimately through the popular will of the people." Arab countries dislike the government because it is essentially a Shia-Kurd coalition and is democratically elected.
Saudi Arabia recently spoke of the "illegal occupation". Iraq is also opposed to the US negotiating unilaterally with Syria and Iran, as recommended by the Baker-Hamilton report, without the Iraqi government being part of the process and the discussions being focussed on Iraq.

Mr Zebari is convinced that a US withdrawal at this stage would lead to the disintegration of Iraq, an explosive expansion of militias as each community sought to defend itself and a triumph for al-Qa'ida. He does not sound impressed by the "surge" and attempts to regain control of Baghdad, saying: "It has made improvements but not great improvements."

He wants the Iraqi government to push ahead with reconciliation with Sunni insurgents, action against the militias, modification of the constitution and de-Baathification. This could be a case of showing willing rather than expecting results. He himself points out that the key leaders of insurgent groups, that operate under a bewildering series of names, are mostly former officers in Hussein's Special Republican Guards and are likely to prove irreconcilable.

That is one of the most ridiculous arguements I hear from the left. Sean Penn says that also. He hates America. The U.S. does not support terrorism as some of these other countries do. The U.S. and it's allies have been responsible in refraining to use these weapons. I do not trust other countries such as radical Iran to not only refrain from using them, but also keep from selling them or the technology to OTHER terrorists. Iran is unstable and so is anyone who feels that their religion advocates killing of innocents. Before you say it, yes, civilians die in war. But unlike others, the U.S. does not intentionally target civilians. It seems the far left wants to blame the U.S. for every death caused in Iraq. I hear the crying and whining from the left about the hazing at Abu Gharib but nothing about the beheadings of Americans. I guess it's ok for Saddam to torture and murder his own people but let the U.S. go in and help them out and oh my. Do the Iraqi's want us out? You darn right. Everyone including us wants us out of Iraq. But most of the Iraqi's want us to stay until their country is stable and secure. Does anyone understand the ramifications of having two countries in the middle east that have democratic governments? So we went in for oil according to some of you. You won't let us drill in the north, you make it hard and expensive to open new refineries. What happens to this country when we don't have oil anymore. Should there be research in other energy sources? Yes, and it should have been a high priority decades ago. But, were not there yet. That's the realistic view of things. No matter how much we want it to be the other way.

The reason Vietnam did not turn into a calamity is because there were no powerful countries outside Vietnam attempting to take it over. If we pull out of Iraq it will cause a huge vacuum and your going to find Iran, Syria, Turkey and Saudi Arabia all vying for footholds in this country and supporting the factions that also are a majority in their own country. The majority of the middle east will be in turmoil. Think man!