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Sep 5, 2007 3:54 PM CST DNA database
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Wow everyone gotta give their DNA...mandatory /law/ national security/ for apprehension of criminals...

would you sign up willingly, if required or you already volunteered?

sorta a "Pandoras box" the way laws and governments change thier thinking and that national security card the use for 101 different reasons.
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Sep 5, 2007 4:11 PM CST DNA database
in spain we've got the boring D.N.I. (id number doc), police get your fingerprints before you can get one of those.

you're supposed to have it on you at all times by law...

I don't like it! but I live heremumbling
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Sep 5, 2007 4:18 PM CST DNA database
cantbetamed71
cantbetamed71cantbetamed71St. Louis, USA70 Threads 901 Posts
I have no prior felony, drug or violent history. I'm not a pyscho trying to buy an arsenal of guns to destroy innocent lives, I'm not a serial killer or a celebrity stalker..in fact the worst I've done is gotten a speeding ticket about 5 years ago and that would be it.

Why should I be forced into submitting my DNA when I've done nothing to warrant be genetically fingerprinted for nothing but an invasion of my privacy??? I resent that implication and will not submit to anything like that willingly, the government would have to take me and haul me into court and JUSTIFY it to me with more reasons than which I could counterjustify it.

Why don't they go after the illegal immigrants in this country? Why don't they devote time and money to literacy programs and the education of our nations children? Why not attack the homeless/poverty issues or clean up New Orleans better? Why waste time, effort and vast resources on productive, law abiding, tax payers like me and go after all the rapists and child molesters in the US...a registry program followed up by due diligence would work wonders on that rampant situation......

All I'm saying is why try to take away more liberties and freedoms from the American people when there are many more pressing issues that could use more time and attention...IMHO
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Sep 5, 2007 4:54 PM CST DNA database
beejay
beejaybeejaySt. Truiden, Limburg Belgium50 Threads 1,413 Posts
If you've got nothing to hide and it cuts crime where's the hassle
I think D.N.A. should be done at birth
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Sep 5, 2007 5:00 PM CST DNA database
beejay
beejaybeejaySt. Truiden, Limburg Belgium50 Threads 1,413 Posts
Apart from maybe helping to catch murderers,rapists and child molesters and all kinds of perverts maybe a D.N.A. database could help in finding heart donors or kidney donors. Wouldn't you like to save a lifedunno
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Sep 5, 2007 5:02 PM CST DNA database
beejay
beejaybeejaySt. Truiden, Limburg Belgium50 Threads 1,413 Posts
Especially if that life might be yours
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Sep 5, 2007 5:02 PM CST DNA database
sassychele
sassychelesassycheleGresham, USA47 Threads 3,342 Posts
And here my scientific mind kicks in.....there was actually some controversy over placing a patent on certain DNA sequences, which as far as I know has not been put into place...thank goodness. However DNA is an amazing thing, you can actually use the sequences, to determine certain things about a person, whether they will be ill or whatever (before they are even born) You can see if they are predisposed to certain diseases etc. DNA is a very amazing thing and the technology that we have could be very bad if in fact it got into the wrong hands....now my criminal justice mind...When I talk to people I know who work in forensics labs, and with the studies I have done on my own, one thing that I have determined, if you have DNA from a crime scene, if this person's DNA has never been found in a crime scene before, or the person was not in the military, it will not be in the system. So to a certain extent I do believe that it might be a good idea, however, this goes back to basic human rights, is giving a sample of your DNA unconstitutional, or inhumane??
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Sep 5, 2007 5:24 PM CST DNA database
beejay
beejaybeejaySt. Truiden, Limburg Belgium50 Threads 1,413 Posts
No. Kicking kids and dogs is inhumaneelephant elephant elephant
Elephants are too big to be kicked and however have nothing to do with D.N.A.
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Sep 5, 2007 5:43 PM CST DNA database
lostsoulinspace
lostsoulinspacelostsoulinspacechocowinity, North Carolina USA9 Threads 521 Posts
Yep, I can see it now, Someone high up in the goverment need's a transplant..... I've put my D.N.A. in this database. low and behold!!! im a match.. now my D.N.A. shows up at a crime, and I get Death! just in time for that transplant!! scold scold doh
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Sep 5, 2007 5:48 PM CST DNA database
beejay
beejaybeejaySt. Truiden, Limburg Belgium50 Threads 1,413 Posts
Don't worry. They can't transplant brainsdancing dancing dancing
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Sep 5, 2007 7:14 PM CST DNA database
peki646
peki646peki646Winter Haven, Florida USA8 Threads 122 Posts
Remember years ago, when they said Big Brother is coming? He's here!
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Sep 5, 2007 7:20 PM CST DNA database
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Yep - we discussed that the other day in relation to 1984 and cyberspace.

Amazingly enough there are so many who meanwhile associate "Big brother" only uh oh with real-TV blues moping
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Sep 5, 2007 7:33 PM CST DNA database
cantbetamed71
cantbetamed71cantbetamed71St. Louis, USA70 Threads 901 Posts
That's why I have filled out the organ donor response box on the back of my drivers license, I donate blood regularly and if someone needed a life saving organ that I could provide, a national registry is already available it's called UNOS. So no, I appreciate your comment but nothing can justify the government invading my privacy and collecting my personal DNA for "registration" purposes, NO. I'm not a throughbred horse or an AKC dog, I am a human being.
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Sep 5, 2007 7:50 PM CST DNA database
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Besides the next step will be ... checking out who is likely to succumb to an inherited disease.

As it is already now, our data (i.e. shopping patterns, clicking of web pages,e-mail address) is being sold to companies.

Watch out, then your health condition and possible upcoming illnesses will make it impossible for you to join health insurances, life insurance or even get a mortgage in order to buy a home. professor
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Sep 5, 2007 7:54 PM CST DNA database
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
In theory, with a genetic print, they could make a poison specific only to you and your individual metabolism, and it would be untraceble because it would masquerade as your own DNA...Talk about the perfect way to cover up a murder...doh

Not willingly will I allow a print of me...very mad
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Sep 5, 2007 7:58 PM CST DNA database
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Free thinkers (and poets!) would be the first to kick the bucket ...professor




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Sep 6, 2007 4:34 AM CST DNA database
Hotdog!
What a change of attitudes.Now,all of a sudden it's 'Guilty Until Proven Innocent'.
What happened to the America I loved and respected?

BTW: I am one of the 'New Kids On The Block' :)
grin
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