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Sep 26, 2007 6:38 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
A crowd, holding banners in an anti-government protest, follows thousands of monks as they enter the Shwedagon Pagoda before marching to the city centre of Yangon September 25, 2007. REUTERS/Stringer
Aung Hla Tun, Reuters

Wednesday, September 26, 2007

Myanmar security forces sealed off Yangon's Shwedagon Pagoda on Wednesday, fired tear gas and arrested up to 200 monks trying to get into the shrine, cracking down on the biggest anti-junta protests in nearly 20 years.

But despite a heavy deployment of troop and riot police at key points across the city, 500 monks marched towards the downtown Sule Pagoda area, the end-point of a week of peaceful protests, witnesses said.

Others joined them along the way, swelling their ranks.

Witnesses and monk sources said some of the deeply revered Buddhist clergy were beaten and manhandled by riot police taking them away from the Shwedagon Pagoda, starting point of the past week's monk-led protests against 45 years of military rule.

Witnesses said they heard no gunshots, but they said security forces burnt plastic pipes to make acrid smoke which filled the air around the pagoda.

The atmosphere at the gilded Shwedagon shrine was "very tense," one witness said, with onlookers angry at the use of violence against the maroon-clad monks.

But the numbers of monks there were far fewer than on Monday or Tuesday after troops and riot police took up positions outside at least six big activist monasteries.

There was also a heavy security presence at the Sule Pagoda, a clear sign the generals were trying to prevent more mass marches.

Hundreds of soldiers waited in a park behind Sule Pagoda, the scene of some of the worst bloodshed when troops opened fire on protesters in 1988, the former Burma's last major uprising.

Then, as many as 3,000 people are thought to have been killed. Now, there are fears around the world of a repetition and Western governments have appealed to the generals to show restraint in the face of protests which had been peaceful.

"This is a test of wills between the only two institutions in the country that have enough power to mobilize nationally," said Bradley Babson, a retired World Bank official who worked in the former Burma.

"Between those two institutions, one of them will crack," he said. "If they take overt violence against the monks, they risk igniting the population against them."

© Reuters 2007



I thought this little lot worth mentioning - there are petitions to sign which can be found using the major search engines
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Sep 26, 2007 6:42 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
Latest in one of the papers here, is that 5 have been killed...
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Sep 26, 2007 6:44 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
Thank you Trish.
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Sep 26, 2007 6:44 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
looks like its heading for a bloodbath again - so sad this history of this country yet such beautiful native peoples - I would love to visit there wave
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Sep 26, 2007 6:45 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Thank You BB - How you doing? hug
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Sep 26, 2007 7:08 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
well,maybe another " August 18, 1991" will happen again,when the troops defected in the Coup against Gorbachev and joined Yeltsin and the People.Some of those Burma-Soldiers have a conscience too.Hopefully.Maybe one day soon they will do the same as those Russians.
smile handshake
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Sep 27, 2007 10:05 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
""Wear a red t-shirt in solidarity this friday!”
“Light candles in your windows on Friday night to honour the victims of the demostrations.”

Ordinary people all over the world are also showing their support for the monks, nuns,
students and other brave people in Burma.
Friday September 28., people in many countries will wear read shirts in
support of the Burmese people.
Red is the color of the robes of the monks protesting in Burma.
It is also the color of blood.
Let us all dress in red and hope and pray that there will not be to much blood shed in Burma on Friday."
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Sep 27, 2007 10:33 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
skimpydoo
skimpydooskimpydooDublin, Ireland170 Threads 3 Polls 4,805 Posts
A Japanese journalist has also been killed today.
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Sep 27, 2007 10:52 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Thanks for this - I have just got home - will put the news on and make sure I have a clean red t-shirt thumbs up
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Sep 27, 2007 10:53 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
so much for peaceful demonstrations hey Skimpy - sigh
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Sep 27, 2007 10:56 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
thanks for the post trish
this has been heavy on my mind this week
but i have been quite unsure that it would be
received well if i posted here about it

its a very unsettling issue
more happenings that make me so sad
and feel so helpless

such plight worldwide
sometimes it is crushing isnt it?
crying
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Sep 27, 2007 11:20 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Hi Mindful - I dont worry about posting things like this as the rule is, if somebody doesnt like it they dont have to involve themselves and at the end of the day the situation in Burma/Mayanmar is at last being spoken of the world over -

As you say, the plight of people the whole world over is so very unsettling and sad. I does leave us feeling helpless but it made me feel a bit better to bring peoples attention to the various petitions available online. Very little of this situation is getting out of the country by the traditional methods such as TV or other forms of journalism and the authorities there have failed, thankfully, to completely remove internet access.

I just got this little snippet from Reuters;

Today’s deaths brought the toll in two days of street violence to at least 16, but bodies are reportedly still being found in side streets of Rangoon. Eyewitnesses said the Japanese journalist was shot at point-blank range as he photographed a riot police baton charge on a group of mostly women.
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Sep 27, 2007 11:35 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
skimpydoo
skimpydooskimpydooDublin, Ireland170 Threads 3 Polls 4,805 Posts
Yep.

A couple of years ago I was at an REM concert and they dedicated a song and spoke some words about the Mynamar elected leader who was under house arrest. It was filmed and broadcast live around the world on tv and radio.
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Sep 27, 2007 11:43 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
lovestrees
lovestreeslovestreesTacoma area, Washington USA18 Threads 305 Posts
Thank you Trish, for bringing this to our attention.

Talking here, signing petitions, writing the usa congress, wearing red on Friday. These minor efforts may seem futile, and a waste of precious time, but please, DO NOT STOP!

The oppressors of our little world are few in number, very few. They have a very precarious hold on their power... they know that the soldiers in their armys have a conscience...

Those few, greedy rulers want their activities to be UNKNOWN!

The best help we can provide for our oppressed fellow humans is too EXPOSE THE TRUTH, at the very least, it makes one feel less helpless.

If enough of us know the truth, WE REALLY CAN CHANGE OUR WORLD!

WE CAN EFFECT POSITIVE CHANGES FOR OUR WORLD!!!

WE CAN! WE CAN! PLEASE DO NOT STOP! handshake
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Sep 27, 2007 11:46 AM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
michael stipe is a good person

16 people
if that number meant the same regardless of
age race creed color or lcation...

16 dead american soldiers is horrifying
yet an issue like this goes unspoken in large part

i feel there is no comparison as all such atrocity is sad
and deserves to be honored and attended to on whatever level

media is different and better and worse
than previous times in history

nowadays they can report 2 american soldiers a day dying
when during the first and second world wars-the numbers were so great yet the public was unaware except each on a personal basis
(loss of one they personally knew or knew of)

i think all of it dishonors us all
and if more humans felt this way
if there was no priority list regarding which deaths are 'worse'
there would be less politically based violent death..?

just my thoughts-alas it shall never come to pass
c'est la vie

what can i do in my backyard today?

good example you are trish!
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Sep 27, 2007 12:00 PM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
She is an AMAZING Woman Skimpy and yep, I can see REM dedicating a song to her !!

this is googled;

Aung San Suu Kyi

Like the South African leader Nelson Mandela, Aung San Suu Kyi has become an international symbol of heroic and peaceful resistance in the face of oppression.

For the Burmese people, Aung San Suu Kyi, 62, represents their best and perhaps sole hope that one day there will be an end to the country's military repression.


As a pro-democracy campaigner and leader of the opposition National League for Democracy party ( NLD), she has spent more than 11 of the past 18 years in some form of detention under Burma's military regime.

In 1991 she was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to bring democracy to Burma.

At the presentation, the Chairman of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, Francis Sejested, called her "an outstanding example of the power of the powerless".

After a period of time overseas, Aung San Suu Kyi went back to Burma in 1988.

House arrest

Soon after she returned, she was put under house arrest in Rangoon for six years, until she was released in July 1995.

She was again put under house arrest in September 2000, when she tried to travel to the city of Mandalay in defiance of travel restrictions.

She was released unconditionally in May 2002, but just over a year later she was put in prison following a clash between her supporters and a government-backed mob.

Following a gynaecological operation in September 2003, she was allowed to return home - but again under effective house arrest.

During these periods of confinement, Aung San Suu Kyi has busied herself studying and exercising.

She has meditated, worked on her French and Japanese language skills, and relaxed by playing Bach on the piano.

In more recent years, she has also been able to meet other NLD officials, and selected visiting diplomats like the United Nations special envoy Razali Ismail.

But during her early years of detention, Aung San Suu Kyi was often in solitary confinement - and was not even allowed to see her two sons or her husband, the British academic Michael Aris.
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Sep 27, 2007 12:00 PM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
continued;

"I could not, as my father's daughter, remain indifferent to all that was going on"

Aung San Suu Kyi, 1988


In March 1999 she suffered a major personal tragedy when her husband died of cancer.

The military authorities offered to allow her to travel to the UK to see him on his deathbed, but she felt compelled to refuse for fear she would not be allowed back into the country.

Aung San Suu Kyi has often said that detention has made her even more resolute to dedicate the rest of her life to represent the average Burmese citizen.

The UN envoy Razali Ismail has said privately that she is one of the most impressive people he has ever met.

Overseas life

Much of Aung San Suu Kyi's appeal within Burma lies in the fact she is the daughter of the country's independence hero General Aung San.

He was assassinated during the transition period in July 1947, just six months before independence.

Aung San Suu Kyi was only two years old at the time.

In 1960 she went to India with her mother Daw Khin Kyi, who had been appointed Burma's ambassador to Delhi.

Four years later she went to Oxford University in the UK, where she studied philosophy, politics and economics. There she met her future husband.

After stints of living and working in Japan and Bhutan, she settled down to be an English don's housewife and raise their two children, Alexander and Kim.


Aung San Suu Kyi won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1991
But Burma was never far away from her thoughts.

When she arrived back in Rangoon in 1988 - initially to look after her critically ill mother - Burma was in the midst of major political upheaval.

Thousands of students, office workers and monks took to the streets demanding democratic reform.

"I could not, as my father's daughter remain indifferent to all that was going on," she said in a speech in Rangoon on 26 August 1988.

Aung San Suu Kyi was soon propelled into leading the revolt against then-dictator General Ne Win.

Inspired by the non-violent campaigns of US civil rights leader Martin Luther King and India's Mahatma Gandhi, she organised rallies and travelled around the country, calling for peaceful democratic reform and free elections.

But the demonstrations were brutally suppressed by the army, who seized power in a coup on 18 September 1988.

The military government called national elections in May 1990.

Aung San Suu Kyi's NLD convincingly won the polls, despite the fact that she herself was under house arrest and disqualified from standing.

But the junta refused to hand over control, and has remained in power ever since.
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Sep 27, 2007 12:05 PM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
"YANGON (Reuters) - Troops cleared protesters from the streets of central Yangon on Thursday, giving them 10 minutes to leave or be shot as the Myanmar junta intensified a two-day crackdown on the largest uprising in 20 years.

At least nine people were killed, state television said, on a day when far fewer protesters took to the streets after soldiers raided monasteries in the middle of the night and rounded up hundreds of the monks who had been leading them.

One of dead was a Japanese photographer, shot when soldiers cleared the area near Sule Pagoda -- a city-centre focus of the protests -- as loudspeakers blared out warnings, ominous reminders of the ruthless crushing of a 1988 uprising.

About 200 soldiers marched towards the crowd and riot police clattered their rattan shields with wooden batons."
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Sep 27, 2007 12:25 PM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
"Protestors have been attacked with knives and batons by members of the vigilante group called Swanashin"

This is getting worse by the minute...
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Sep 27, 2007 12:27 PM CST Monks arrested, tear gassed at Myanmar pagoda:
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
I got the news on now - I fear tonight may be a bad one for those poor folks over there
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