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Jan 31, 2008 4:31 PM CST black school
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I heard on the news today that in Toronto they are going to open a school just for blacks. Who thinks this is a good or bad idea.

With the past trouble in the states I was wondering what this might lead to in Canada.
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Jan 31, 2008 4:35 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
They had white schools back in the day so lets wait and see how this turns out.

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Jan 31, 2008 4:38 PM CST black school
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
lusciousmile: They had white schools back in the day so lets wait and see how this turns out.
I know back in the day there was schools just for the whites too, but then they were joined. I was wondering if this well seperate the schools again if this turns out.dunno
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Jan 31, 2008 4:39 PM CST black school
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
kitty01: I heard on the news today that in Toronto they are going to open a school just for blacks. Who thinks this is a good or bad idea.

With the past trouble in the states I was wondering what this might lead to in Canada.


well, I went through my whole school years with just white kids. There were no black kids in the area. When I got into the real world, and interacted with different people, I found it interesting. I think that by being in an all white school, I missed out on different things.
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Jan 31, 2008 4:40 PM CST black school
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I have a grandaughter who is both part white and part black. She looks black so she would have to go to the black school, or would they not let her as she is part white.
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Jan 31, 2008 4:50 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
kitty01: I know back in the day there was schools just for the whites too, but then they were joined. I was wondering if this well seperate the schools again if this turns out.


I'm kidding Kitty. hug


On a serious note, did they say what led to this?

dunno conversing
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Jan 31, 2008 4:58 PM CST black school
You don't say reason for this to be taking place.Is it what supporters see as fair for black students,somehow they would be better off?Or that blacks want own school?Or is it white supremists want, like going back in time in USA where blacks were considered less than white and many did not get as good an eduation because their schools were last on list for new materials etc.,that's scarey.Don't know much about Canada and black popuation or attitudes by whites towards blacks in general or visa versa.Who came up with idea?A goverment committee or who?When can we all live as equals,not seen by skin color or foreign accents or a person labeled by their handicap not what they know or can do.1 race,the human race.Blonde,blind,born without legs,a beauty that mags want as centerfold,housewives,office workers,scholl of higher learning noted etc.All over the world,woman have babies same way.Men all pee in the same position.We all bleed red,we all need water to survive(sadly why some don't make it-contaminaed water).Point is God loves us all.We all have feelings.

Is it good idea or bad?Depends on reason the idea came to be.However I don't think any reason for that in our country is good.peace
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Jan 31, 2008 5:06 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Jesus.


I'm starting to wonder if i should even consider having a child with a person of a different race.


sigh

I have a friend who says her mixed race kids are ostracized at school so i would understand a need for wanting to establish a blacks only schoo anywhere.
This crap would change if children were taught to accept all others by their 'parents'.



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Jan 31, 2008 5:08 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
I think life is harder for a mixed race child than it is for a black one.




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Jan 31, 2008 5:21 PM CST black school
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Toronto trustees narrowly approve black school
CAROLINE ALPHONSO AND JAMES BRADSHAW

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

January 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM EST

TORONTO — In a tight vote, Toronto District School Board trustees Tuesday night approved a contentious proposal for a black-focused school that opponents argued would be the equivalent of segregation.

The 11-9 vote in favour came after an evening of impassioned pleas both for and against the school from community members, including one from the mother of slain 15-year-old Jordan Manners.

Tuesday night's vote means that an alternative Afrocentric school will open in the city in September, 2009, but its location and grade levels are still to be determined.

“This is a bold decision, we're opening ourselves up for real change in the system,” said trustee Michael Coteau, said after the vote.
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Jan 31, 2008 5:23 PM CST black school
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
kitty01: I heard on the news today that in Toronto they are going to open a school just for blacks. Who thinks this is a good or bad idea.

With the past trouble in the states I was wondering what this might lead to in Canada.


I think it's a crap idea.. we are meant to be moving forward in time.. not back.

Hi Kitty wave hug
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Jan 31, 2008 5:23 PM CST black school
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Toronto board considering school for black youth
Updated Thu. Sep. 15 2005 9:13 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

A published report says the Toronto District School Board's new equity expert is looking at establishing a black-only school in the city, as a way of combating a high dropout rate and problems with suspensions.

Lloyd McKell, the new executive officer of student and community equity for the board, told the Toronto Star that city schools don't do enough to make students of all backgrounds feel valued.

McKell told the Star a black-focused pilot school would be helpful for at-risk pupils, offering more black teachers, an Afro-centric curriculum and a more nurturing environment.

The school board confirmed that it is looking at the idea.

"I think we're talking about the possibility of a school that would have black-focussed programs -- but they'd be available to any student who wanted to attend them," board chair Sheila Ward told CTV News Toronto.

Ward insists the board needs to do more to prevent at-risk students from dropping out. And since the Safe Schools Act was introduced five years ago, more than 1,000 kids under the age of seven have been suspended. The majority of those suspensions are African-Canadian youth.

Ward says that of the suspension hearings she has attended, 98 per cent involved students of colour. "That says to me -- there's some kind of a problem."

McKell told CTV News he didn't want to comment directly on the proposal.

"I'm not going to speculate on what kind of a model we develop," he said Wednesday. "We do know that we are looking at the particular needs of students who have come forth to us and tell us that they need some adjustments in the way we deliver education."
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Jan 31, 2008 5:25 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Claayer: I think it's a crap idea.. we are meant to be moving forward in time.. not back.

Hi Kitty


I don't think it's necessarily crap. If you had a mixed race child or a black one, like any mother you'd want them in the most comfortable environment.

See it from that view.


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Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM CST black school
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
What ever happened to multiculturism?

Must be some idiots idea of political expediency gone too far, and is probably illegal too!! I hope someone sues the local authority for positive discrimination.

The sooner everyone gets along the better, it's rubbish like this that extends the problems in society.
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Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM CST black school
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
lusciousmile: I don't think it's necessarily crap. If you had a mixed race child or a black one, like any mother you'd want them in the most comfortable environment.

See it from that view.


yeah I see what you mean.. But I still think we shouldn't even HAVE our children feeling any different from each other.
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Jan 31, 2008 5:29 PM CST black school
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
I posted some of the newpapers account a couple of posts back
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Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Claayer: yeah I see what you mean.. But I still think we shouldn't even HAVE our children feeling any different from each other.


My point exactly!!!!



Talk is cheap! If anyone here had a feeling their child's psychological stability was at stake, they would do anything to 'protect' them.


I don't have kids but i know i would go out of my way to keep them safe.


JMO
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Jan 31, 2008 5:35 PM CST black school
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
lusciousmile: My point exactly!!!!
Talk is cheap! If anyone here had a feeling their child's psychological stability was at stake, they would do anything to 'protect' them.I don't have kids but i know i would go out of my way to keep them safe. JMO


I Toe-tally agree.. it just pisses me off that anyone is treated any differently nowadays.

I don't see why they don't use the money to employ more black teachers (from the article) and making more of an effort to improve how the schools are run.. mixing and mingling instead of building a completely separate school. It's only going backwards and creating a divide IMO.
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Jan 31, 2008 5:40 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Claayer: I Toe-tally agree.. it just pisses me off that anyone is treated any differently nowadays.

I don't see why they don't use the money to employ more black teachers (from the article) and making more of an effort to improve how the schools are run.. mixing and mingling instead of building a completely separate school. It's only going backwards and creating a divide IMO.


I agree but what do you do when two of your children are fighting?


Don't you separate them when unable to restore peace between them? Just to keep them from hurting each other?


I don't think they should be doing this( blacks only school) but it wouldn't hurt to try and understand why they would want to.


dunno
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Jan 31, 2008 5:52 PM CST black school
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Conrad73: Yep,Friend Martin said it!

To Hell with the Naysayers!


May you come back as a black man in your next life....just for a day and let's see how easily you solve these little issues.


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