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May 3, 2008 9:57 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?

It seems like, if we compare ourselves to earlier societies, people did not expect so much personal ‘fulfilment’ and easy gratification of all our desires and expectations.

I’ve only been looking at single sites for a few months, but I’m feeling like, wow, there are so many lonely, single people out there. Why are so many of us on our own? Is it because of high expectations and low output? That is, we expect so much from others but are not willing to give that much in compromising, cooperation, adjustment, and so on?

Is this a trend of contemporary society and will it continue so that in a few decades, partnering, marriage, and families will become almost obsolete? I think statistically there are far more single people than there used to be….it’s kinda scary.
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May 3, 2008 10:01 AM CST Narcissism
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
Portiea: Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?

It seems like, if we compare ourselves to earlier societies, people did not expect so much personal ‘fulfilment’ and easy gratification of all our desires and expectations.

I’ve only been looking at single sites for a few months, but I’m feeling like, wow, there are so many lonely, single people out there. Why are so many of us on our own? Is it because of high expectations and low output? That is, we expect so much from others but are not willing to give that much in compromising, cooperation, adjustment, and so on?

Is this a trend of contemporary society and will it continue so that in a few decades, partnering, marriage, and families will become almost obsolete? I think statistically there are far more single people than there used to be….it’s kinda scary.




I believe the divorce rate is NOW 51 %.Concerned with the eventual demise of humanity Portia?
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May 3, 2008 10:04 AM CST Narcissism
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Portiea: Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?

It seems like, if we compare ourselves to earlier societies, people did not expect so much personal ‘fulfilment’ and easy gratification of all our desires and expectations.



Yes, it is at an all time high....unprecedented.
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May 3, 2008 10:06 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
friendsfirst: I believe the divorce rate is NOW 51 %.Concerned with the eventual demise of humanity Portia?



Well not the demise. There are too many people already, I think, overpopulation. So if people have less children, that's okay with me. But, it is sad that so many people are alone. I'm not crazy about it myself, though it will do for now. But, looking toward the future...well, I hope it isn't going to be permanent. sigh
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May 3, 2008 10:12 AM CST Narcissism
Dagda
DagdaDagdaGalway, Ireland8 Threads 115 Posts
Portiea: Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?

It seems like, if we compare ourselves to earlier societies, people did not expect so much personal ‘fulfilment’ and easy gratification of all our desires and expectations.

I’ve only been looking at single sites for a few months, but I’m feeling like, wow, there are so many lonely, single people out there. Why are so many of us on our own? Is it because of high expectations and low output? That is, we expect so much from others but are not willing to give that much in compromising, cooperation, adjustment, and so on?

Is this a trend of contemporary society and will it continue so that in a few decades, partnering, marriage, and families will become almost obsolete? I think statistically there are far more single people than there used to be….it’s kinda scary.


great post.Add campaigns along the lines of "because your worth it" help to promote all the self abbsorbtion
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May 3, 2008 10:12 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
friendsfirst: I believe the divorce rate is NOW 51 %.Concerned with the eventual demise of humanity Portia?


ah-hmm....PORTIEA







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May 3, 2008 10:25 AM CST Narcissism
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
***Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?



In a word....yes


Now to expound. How many times have I read in a woman's profile(I don't read mens)...I know what I want and I won't settle!! Fine! Don't settle...but there might be someone out there that is just a little out of your scope. They just might be someone that will make you happy. But since it is all about you and what you want, don't give it a try!!
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May 3, 2008 10:30 AM CST Narcissism
Dagda
DagdaDagdaGalway, Ireland8 Threads 115 Posts
shipoker55: ***Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?
In a word....yesNow to expound. How many times have I read in a woman's profile(I don't read mens)...I know what I want and I won't settle!! Fine! Don't settle...but there might be someone out there that is just a little out of your scope. They just might be someone that will make you happy. But since it is all about you and what you want, don't give it a try!!


applause
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May 3, 2008 10:30 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
shipoker55: ***Does contemporary society encourage narcissism—self love to the point of self-centeredness--?
In a word....yesNow to expound. How many times have I read in a woman's profile(I don't read mens)...I know what I want and I won't settle!! Fine! Don't settle...but there might be someone out there that is just a little out of your scope. They just might be someone that will make you happy. But since it is all about you and what you want, don't give it a try!!


Yep. Men's profiles tend to be very specific as to what is wanted...very unrealistic at times, as, I'm sure, are women's. I'm upfront about it in mine: I know my 'ideal' doesn't exist, and I'm willing to give anyone who seems compatible on some level a chance.

Some or all of us think we have a type--a physical type we like, or a personality type we like. But, we could be wrong about that. Also, we want everything...like complete happiness and fulfillment is really possible. I think our contemporary society teaches us to believe total happiness is not only possible, but required in all things, and you don't have to make it happen, it just is given to you, by and individual or by society.

Good post.cheers
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May 3, 2008 10:39 AM CST Narcissism
DizzyDi
DizzyDiDizzyDiLancashire, England UK26 Threads 1 Polls 1,761 Posts
society tells us we need A,B,C to be happy!!! been there done that, don't expect another person to make me happy, if I am not happy with myself, but that does not mean I will/not compromise if I thought he was right for me.

As for society, they keep telling us we should be part of a couple! to make us whole! the lucky few get it right the first timeapplause the rest of us have to go on single sites just to see what is out thereteddybear
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May 3, 2008 10:40 AM CST Narcissism
ANurse4U
ANurse4UANurse4UMemphis, Tennessee USA14 Threads 525 Posts
Portiea: Well not the demise. There are too many people already, I think, overpopulation. So if people have less children, that's okay with me. But, it is sad that so many people are alone. I'm not crazy about it myself, though it will do for now. But, looking toward the future...well, I hope it isn't going to be permanent.


I believe that more people stay single in todays world because it is more of a self-defense mechanism for protecting one's emotions from people who may harm their feelings.

JMO conversing

However, I too look toward the future in hopes that it isn't going to be a permanent thing. sigh
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May 3, 2008 10:42 AM CST Narcissism
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
I need some coffe than I will add my thoughts. I am really spent and I am not doing much to contribute to the forums or Portiea's threads. I did a lot of work on this subject. I will just say for now that Narcissism really started to explode in the 70's...after it's birth in the 60's. The transition of our society from the pretentious 50's has not been a smooth one for individuals and couples. The divorce rate here in Sweden is over 60 percent. The numbers of depressed people on medication is at an all time high. There are many factors...even at an unconscious level....if you examine our quick fix/fast food/selfish mentality that our society has promoted in this digital and service minded society. Too many people chasing false desires...too many people not fighting for what is real. Too many people give up to soon on being happy, so they find false things to make them happy. Oh, I'll come back to this and try and clarify it in a tidy nutshell....I really need coffee.....
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May 3, 2008 10:43 AM CST Narcissism
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
ANurse4U: I believe that more people stay single in todays world because it is more of a self-defense mechanism for protecting one's emotions from people who may harm their feelings.

JMO

However, I too look toward the future in hopes that it isn't going to be a permanent thing.


wave I agree with that Nurse :: nods head ::
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May 3, 2008 10:45 AM CST Narcissism
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
Portiea: ah-hmm....PORTIEA


Sorry honey.

Now i must write Portiea 1000 times.

dancing
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May 3, 2008 10:46 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
StressFree: I need some coffe than I will add my thoughts. I am really spent and I am not doing much to contribute to the forums or Portiea's threads. I did a lot of work on this subject. I will just say for now that Narcissism really started to explode in the 70's...after it's birth in the 60's. The transition of our society from the pretentious 50's has not been a smooth one for individuals and couples. The divorce rate here in Sweden is over 60 percent. The numbers of depressed people on medication is at an all time high. There are many factors...even at an unconscious level....if you examine our quick fix/fast food/selfish mentality that our society has promoted in this digital and service minded society. Too many people chasing false desires...too many people not fighting for what is real. Too many people give up to soon on being happy, so they find false things to make them happy. Oh, I'll come back to this and try and clarify it in a tidy nutshell....I really need coffee.....


Not bad for somebody who 'really spent'thumbs up
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May 3, 2008 10:47 AM CST Narcissism
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
Claayer: I agree with that Nurse :: nods head ::


This is very likely.I have to agree to this as well.

Hi Claayer.wave
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May 3, 2008 10:48 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
friendsfirst: Sorry honey.

Now i must write Portiea 1000 times.


I can't help it--my narcissistic personality demands that people spell my fantasy name correctly!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 3, 2008 10:49 AM CST Narcissism
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
ANurse4U: I believe that more people stay single in todays world because it is more of a self-defense mechanism for protecting one's emotions from people who may harm their feelings.
JMO

However, I too look toward the future in hopes that it isn't going to be a permanent thing.


Ah! This is interesting. I hadn't thought of that. thumbs up
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May 3, 2008 10:53 AM CST Narcissism
ANurse4U
ANurse4UANurse4UMemphis, Tennessee USA14 Threads 525 Posts
friendsfirst: This is very likely.I have to agree to this as well.

Hi Claayer.


Well it made sense to me because that surely applies to me laugh
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May 3, 2008 11:50 AM CST Narcissism
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
This is a good thread.I like it here.

Body Language

Lets talk little bit of body language, and how it is connected to your attitude and confidence. We all know, that people communicate with each other on multiple levels. Words (what we say), is just 7% of our communication when we communicate, the majority of communication is done with body language, vocal tones, vocal pitch, movement, and gestures. When I say body language, I mean: pitch of voice, tonality, speed, how you walk, the way you carry yourself through the world, having eye contact, how fast you move (hands… etc), shoulders, chest... You may ask why body language is so important. First, because it is how we sub- communicate with others.

I want you to go outside and try this.Go out and make eye contact with someone.MAINTAIN eye contact until they look away.Then smile and wave.

Tell them .Have a nice day.Try this.Practice it.

I am willing to BET all that is valuable to me,you will notice significant changes.You might even have a conversation with a complete stranger,or two.

Have a wonderful day folks.



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