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May 25, 2008 6:00 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
ttom500: Most Americans Dude consider Jane Fonda with the likes of Axis Bettie and Toyko Rose....two women that during WWII were Americans that did propaganda for Germany and Japan. Jane didnot get anything stopped. The war went on for several years after she was in North Vet Nam.

The only thing Jane Fonda accomplished in her trip there,other than getting some Americans beat up for trying to pass thier names to her.
Was to make a name for herself in the anti war movement. So she would be a bigger box office draw here in the US. Anti war movies were a rage then. What better way to get more to attend, than to have Jane Fonda in one.

What danger? North Vet Nam was no danger to the US. North Vet Nam and the VC were a danger to the millions of South Vet Namese.
Ask those of the killing fields after the fall came, if this was not so.
Jane Fonda encouraged an enemy of the United States during war time. They should have not let her back in the country.


Didn't they press charges of any kind against her?
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May 25, 2008 6:11 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
RobbieM: Good job it wasnt someone like me then or you would have been screwed!

Thankfully it doesnt have a grisly end to the story so there is no harm done, or anyone upset.


I tell you Robbie. Every Military instinct I had was saying crouch, run and dodge. My gut was saying this guy has you cold, walk out of it.
Run, he would shoot again. Sometime you got to go with your gut.

There are alot of guys that make that shoot with their eyes closed. So glad it was not you Robbie......you would have one ticked off yank here. I am Kevlar you know.:-)

Hey get feeling better.
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May 25, 2008 6:17 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
ttom500: I tell you Robbie. Every Military instinct I had was saying crouch, run and dodge. My gut was saying this guy has you cold, walk out of it.
Run, he would shoot again. Sometime you got to go with your gut.

There are alot of guys that make that shoot with their eyes closed. So glad it was not you Robbie......you would have one ticked off yank here. I am Kevlar you know.:-)

Hey get feeling better.


At that range i'd have hit you left or right handed! I had a very funny bet with some Rangers in an American airbase last summer that they thought i couldn't hit an egg sized object.Well it was a drinks can with any chosen weapon of their chosing after i had 3 shots to adjust the site.

I think it was 1304 when we used the rangefinder afterwards.

Their mouths dropped open i collected $100 from each guy then offered to show them some trick shooting afterwards.

You should have seen their faces, it was priceless.
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May 25, 2008 6:24 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
RobbieM: Didn't they press charges of any kind against her?


No, by that time the anti war movement here was pretty strong. The Gov't considered it for a time. They could have prosecuted her 'under aiding and abetting an enemy during war time'. But Vet Nam was a 'police action'. Not a declared war. So would have gotten into legalize court games and more exposure for Jane. So Gov't dropped it.

Funny thing is. She never did any of the anti war movies. She could pretty well pick her roles now.

Personally, I would have figured a away to pull her passport. But she had a lot of pull. Her dad.....and brother were both big in Hollywood. Her dad especially had connections in Washington at the time. Suspect they went to bat for her.
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May 25, 2008 6:29 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
RobbieM: It was on the shelf somewhere Conrad, oaded itself up and ran after Tom like one of those brushes in a disney movie.

I cant think of the film but have a mental image but its real hard concentrating on anything other than something real simple at the moment.

Do your best Robbie.......
feel your self welcome a bout talking mental analysation......

Professor Conrad here can help you in deed!
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May 25, 2008 6:32 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
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May 25, 2008 6:35 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
ttom500: No, by that time the anti war movement here was pretty strong. The Gov't considered it for a time. They could have prosecuted her 'under aiding and abetting an enemy during war time'. But Vet Nam was a 'police action'. Not a declared war. So would have gotten into legalize court games and more exposure for Jane. So Gov't dropped it.

Funny thing is. She never did any of the anti war movies. She could pretty well pick her roles now.

Personally, I would have figured a away to pull her passport. But she had a lot of pull. Her dad.....and brother were both big in Hollywood. Her dad especially had connections in Washington at the time. Suspect they went to bat for her.


I didnt know the fonda family had connections in Washington.I bet someone was just itching to arrest her.Though that happens a lot and its easier to let sleeping dogs lie.

Mind you shes lucky she wasnt Russian, had she done the same to them she would have been ordered home. Picked up in a car and received summary execution within the hour of clearing the airport.

They took treason/espionage in a far more direct approachlaugh

I watched "once apon a time in america" the other day, and i have to say it was a real load of old rubbish all these years on! They couldn't make crap like that anymore....

Oh yes they could the pink elephants here just said and pointed out some of my dvds.There right of course, even the oompalumpa suggested "Bill and teds excellent adventure".

Jesus my brain is having troubleconversing
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May 25, 2008 6:41 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Do your best Robbie.......
feel your self welcome a bout talking mental analysation......

Professor Conrad here can help you in deed!


See your doing it again? Who do you feel the urge to poke snide remarks at Conrad all the time?

I maybe only just lucid enough to see the screen but i can see your still obsessed for any chance to have a swipe at some people.

You just cant help yourself? whats up with you?
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May 25, 2008 6:45 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
RobbieM: See your doing it again? Who do you feel the urge to poke snide remarks at Conrad all the time?

I maybe only just lucid enough to see the screen but i can see your still obsessed for any chance to have a swipe at some people.

You just cant help yourself? whats up with you?


You must be sleeping on that medicine Robbie. Don't you see Conrad does the same thing and what about Alfalfa and Indy? Why don't you lecture them?
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May 25, 2008 6:46 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
RobbieM: At that range i'd have hit you left or right handed! I had a very funny bet with some Rangers in an American airbase last summer that they thought i couldn't hit an egg sized object.Well it was a drinks can with any chosen weapon of their chosing after i had 3 shots to adjust the site.

I think it was 1304 when we used the rangefinder afterwards.

Their mouths dropped open i collected $100 from each guy then offered to show them some trick shooting afterwards.

You should have seen their faces, it was priceless.


I once shot a 3 round 3/4 inch group at 300 yards without optics.
Remington bolt action 223....the best shooting I ever did.

Ever shot the movement range at Ft. Benning? What a range. Targets pop up and move on tracks. Some are standing 2/3 size and others are crawling head shoots. Most of them are moving. You start at 250 yards just like engaging targets in defending an attack. Then work closer to 25 yards. Three clips. Several rounds for each target. If you ever get a chance do shoot it.

To score high the trick is to fire in front the target. The impact kick rocks up into the target that are computer recorded hits. Computer does not know the difference between a peeples or a round. Once we learned that it was easy to score high.

I watched a guy go nuts here. He was to fire downrange with a M-16.
He turns the weapon to the firing line to shoot at one his drill instructors. A course instructor saw him turn the gun to the drill.
Just as he pulling off the first round, the instructor is knocking the gun down as he jumbed into the pit with him. 4 rounds zipped the at the Drill and hit short of him in the ground by about 20-30 feet. Article 25 (felony charge), attempted murder, dishonorable discharge, and 20 to life in Leavenworth all in about 4 second time for the guy.
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May 25, 2008 6:48 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Most Americans Dude consider Jane Fonda with the likes of Axis Bettie and Toyko Rose....two women that during WWII were Americans that did propaganda for Germany and Japan. Jane didnot get anything stopped. The war went on for several years after she was in North Vet Nam.

The only thing Jane Fonda accomplished in her trip there,other than getting some Americans beat up for trying to pass thier names to her.
Was to make a name for herself in the anti war movement. So she would be a bigger box office draw here in the US. Anti war movies were a rage then. What better way to get more to attend, than to have Jane Fonda in one.

What danger? North Vet Nam was no danger to the US. North Vet Nam and the VC were a danger to the millions of South Vet Namese.
Ask those of the killing fields after the fall came, if this was not so.
Jane Fonda encouraged an enemy of the United States during war time. They should have not let her back in the country.


Still ......many people thinking of Jane Fonda as one of the prominent anti war personalities in america and she was a gainst that war in deed I am sure.

Maybe 15 years from now...people will tak "bad" a bout Sean Penn, or Viggo Mortensen, or Roberto Deniro, or George Klooney, or Tom Hanks or or those huge group of artists whom are a gainst the War, the Bushney,s, For Obama and all that.....

But still if I am still around..... I would know that they are totaly wron talking bad a bout these antiwar artists any way.

You think even the war in Vietnam was just then? thats really Classic TT !

They became Communists thats all! And then some years after americans fortunatily and thanks to the huge amount of antiwar movement, left ....... they became more and more moderated . I beleive it is not all right to interfear because it just makes more dead human biengs and nothing else. Just imagine if there were no antiwar movies....Thanks god antiwar movies opened peoples eyes! there were no Glory what so ever in that war were the usage of chemichal and biologichal wmd,s can never ever being foregiven form those whom Care a bout Human rights!

America did great during the world wars but after that ...Every single time it has been a failur.I beleive american true abilities lies in american great amount of intellectual individuals and american influence because of the power to control the state of economy all over the world. Diplomacy will be much stronger when enemies know that there is a huge military power behind it even if that military power is not used.

I know..weapon prdouktion runs 24 hours a day over there and people need jobs and investors need a good retirenment and all that....But the meaning a bout the whole industry Sucks I beleive!Nasty Nasty Business in deed and as long as americans making all those weapons so do Chiness, so do Russians and so do indians and europeans and all the rest! And what is a weapon any way? A piece of machinery to Kill human beings! thats Really disgusting!

I think it is best investing in food production instead.......America can feed the whole world with good prices and can learn that ability to other nations as well and by that making a world peace is not that difficult at all.
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May 25, 2008 6:53 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Opal,

My brain locked onto the thread but when i realised my brain wasnt registering some of the words like cessation i realise that my reasoning powers are evaporated now.

Now i know why the chinese empire collapsed as i cant think straight or even recognise what some words mean now after morphine has had a good 2 hours to get into my system! I think i better try and read your bit when i am not high as a kite.

I'm not sure if its frustration or the drugs not making me be able to realise why on earth some people think funny but in a month i will reread the thread with my brain hopefully free of morphine and be able to see if i have just been just plain thick tonight.

I just dont know, its beyond me.
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May 25, 2008 6:58 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
RobbieM: I didnt know the fonda family had connections in Washington.I bet someone was just itching to arrest her.Though that happens a lot and its easier to let sleeping dogs lie.

Mind you shes lucky she wasnt Russian, had she done the same to them she would have been ordered home. Picked up in a car and received summary execution within the hour of clearing the airport.

They took treason/espionage in a far more direct approach

I watched "once apon a time in america" the other day, and i have to say it was a real load of old rubbish all these years on! They couldn't make crap like that anymore....

Oh yes they could the pink elephants here just said and pointed out some of my dvds.There right of course, even the oompalumpa suggested "Bill and teds excellent adventure".

Jesus my brain is having trouble


Peter Fonda was her father. Same Peter Fonda of many western movies. He was not anti war. He served in WWII in the Navy. Did
a lot war movies. So he was connected back in DC. Noone want
to press charges against her, it would have also brought him and his movie work into dispute. Would have been a anti war trial with a lot
of publicity.

LBJ was trying to keep things 'cool' back here in the US. Having a court trial on her would have been asking for street troubles. But I suspect you are right. Some would have prosecuted. Me? I would have pulled her passport. Let her do movies in Italy.:-)
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May 25, 2008 7:01 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
opalbeauty: You must be sleeping on that medicine Robbie. Don't you see Conrad does the same thing and what about Alfalfa and Indy? Why don't you lecture them?


I do see them doing it too but their not hear are they? One thing does not justify another?

The point i was making and have posted it before why not debate like adults and not appear like little kids?

Maybe some people just cannot help themselves but i am not one of them, even when doped up to my eyeballs on morphine.

I assume your sober so i assume you would agree as well?
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May 25, 2008 7:08 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
RobbieM: See your doing it again? Who do you feel the urge to poke snide remarks at Conrad all the time?

I maybe only just lucid enough to see the screen but i can see your still obsessed for any chance to have a swipe at some people.

You just cant help yourself? whats up with you?


You are all of a sudden the Terminator of the Room Robbie?

Read Conrads posts in all my Obama threats and you will see why I talk to him like that some times.....

And Whats up with you?

I told you before feel free to take a break form this threat if you dont like what you read Robbie wave

Make your own Threat any time....it is a free forum you see?
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May 25, 2008 7:11 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
opalbeauty: You must be sleeping on that medicine Robbie. Don't you see Conrad does the same thing and what about Alfalfa and Indy? Why don't you lecture them?


Robbie is a right winged and he stays on their side of course.

I am telling you this is a true boxing Fight......Left verses Right boxing

and the Winner is..........

We will all know soon......

Obama 08 yay
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May 25, 2008 7:20 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
RobbieM: Opal,

My brain locked onto the thread but when i realised my brain wasnt registering some of the words like cessation i realise that my reasoning powers are evaporated now.

Now i know why the chinese empire collapsed as i cant think straight or even recognise what some words mean now after morphine has had a good 2 hours to get into my system! I think i better try and read your bit when i am not high as a kite.

I'm not sure if its frustration or the drugs not making me be able to realise why on earth some people think funny but in a month i will reread the thread with my brain hopefully free of morphine and be able to see if i have just been just plain thick tonight.

I just dont know, its beyond me.

I am sorry you are ill Robbie

I certaily hope you will recover totaly soon ......it is damn sad being ill

And beside you will be able not to make trouble perhaps with otu reason or expecting that only your way of explaining the state of the world is The one!

Please get well soon Robbie ok?

Damn ...Morphine....what happened to you?

comfort
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May 25, 2008 7:21 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Robbie is a right winged and he stays on their side of course.

I am telling you this is a true boxing Fight......Left verses Right

and the Winner is..........

We will all know soon......

Obama 08


Dude,

What on earth makes you think i am right winged? I think your on stronger medication than me to make assertions about me like that.

I comment about historical facts, events and tactics, none of which have a political stance.

I think i am the only poster on the thread who you couldnt predict how i voted during any previous?

feel free to call me right winged if you like, but its completely devoid of evidence professor

Stick to debating and not arguing like a child and then we might learn something rather than watch you and the others arguing about the polorised arguements you will stick to, purely on the basis of your political standpoint.

Real life and history are night right wing vs left wing? Then again what would i know and i am on drugs.

Explain your mentality in a straight forward way without going off at a tangent and then make sweeping factless statements and then we mght get somewhere.
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May 25, 2008 7:27 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
RobbieM: Dude,

What on earth makes you think i am right winged? I think your on stronger medication than me to make assertions about me like that.

I comment about historical facts, events and tactics, none of which have a political stance.

I think i am the only poster on the thread who you couldnt predict how i voted during any previous?

feel free to call me right winged if you like, but its completely devoid of evidence

Stick to debating and not arguing like a child and then we might learn something rather than watch you and the others arguing about the polorised arguements you will stick to, purely on the basis of your political standpoint.

Real life and history are night right wing vs left wing? Then again what would i know and i am on drugs.

Explain your mentality in a straight forward way without going off at a tangent and then make sweeping factless statements and then we mght get somewhere.


Some people want to beleive the whole thing is not just Black or White but I beleive it is actually! All those whom are talking a bout nuances and all that are not honest to them selves because Deep inside they all know exactly what side they are!

And Specially Left or Right.....Simple and so true!
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May 25, 2008 7:30 PM CST Obama for President......Octagram!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Some people want to beleive the whole thing is not just Black or White but I beleive it is actually! All those whom are talking a bout nuances and all that are not honest to them selves because Deep inside they all know exactly what side they are!

And Specially Left or Right.....Simple and so true!


Dude your wrong.

Right or wrong is what is important, not twisting facts to match a political belief system.

Do you understand now?
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