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RobbieM: It's for the American people to vote their president, but he will not change the way the military industrial complex functions, nor will he change the arms trade, or perhaps switch funding to the development of the dependancy on fossil fuels.
Clean Energy is the number one priority for anyone who gets in or within the next 200 years this planet will be in such a state it will not be able to support one civilisation.
Tell you what, pour in the budget for say the DIA and employ CALTECH and MIT and every respected university in the world to find and make use of the Over under energy field then and only then will i be impressed.
Thats what the world needs, clean non polluting energy, everything else is just window dressing.
Clean Energy is the number one priority for anyone who gets in or within the next 200 years this planet will be in such a state it will not be able to support one civilisation.
Tell you what, pour in the budget for say the DIA and employ CALTECH and MIT and every respected university in the world to find and make use of the Over under energy field then and only then will i be impressed.
Thats what the world needs, clean non polluting energy, everything else is just window dressing.
Hook a hose up to Dude. That boy's got a lot of hot air...he could create steam energy.
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Indyfella: But remember Robbie...........
Obama will fix it.
Obama will fix it.
It's moronic to put blind faith in a man you don't even know
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RobbieM: It's for the American people to vote their president, but he will not change the way the military industrial complex functions, nor will he change the arms trade, or perhaps switch funding to the development of the dependancy on fossil fuels.
Clean Energy is the number one priority for anyone who gets in or within the next 200 years this planet will be in such a state it will not be able to support one civilisation.
Tell you what, pour in the budget for say the DIA and employ CALTECH and MIT and every respected university in the world to find and make use of the Over under energy field then and only then will i be impressed.
Thats what the world needs, clean non polluting energy, everything else is just window dressing.
Clean Energy is the number one priority for anyone who gets in or within the next 200 years this planet will be in such a state it will not be able to support one civilisation.
Tell you what, pour in the budget for say the DIA and employ CALTECH and MIT and every respected university in the world to find and make use of the Over under energy field then and only then will i be impressed.
Thats what the world needs, clean non polluting energy, everything else is just window dressing.
Lets say you were american and had the right to Vote! Whom do you think they must trust Robbie?
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RobbieM:
It's moronic to put blind faith in a man you don't even know
It's moronic to put blind faith in a man you don't even know
Hey Robbie...........(sarcasm abounds)
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Indyfella: Of course, I'm sure they probably broke international law.
If someone friggs woth your People,the Hell with "International Law"
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Conrad73: If someone friggs woth your People,the Hell with "International Law"
dittos
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Hot_Single_Dude: Lets say you were american and had the right to Vote! Whom do you think they must trust Robbie?
You really think,TRUST is some kind of Blank-Check????
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Hot_Single_Dude: Lets say you were american and had the right to Vote! Whom do you think they must trust Robbie?
Dude, their system is split along 2 parties lines, where financial interests control what is done!
There is no real democracy anymore, and voting in one new guy is like changing the net curtains inside a vivisection clinic.
Inside without oversight the butchery will still continue.
Lets see whoever gets in will act like a head of state and return dignity to the whitehouse.There's lots of pressure to go along to get along.
Lets see who will get in and have a mature non dogmatic approach to the countries problems, and actually play their part as an example to follow instead of looking like a bunch of clowns on the world stage going through the fasade of playing politics on partisan lines.
Time to take a deep breath, lead by example, put disputes in the hands of the UN and take the same approach as the Germans and Japanese have done since the end of WW2.
Their stance is to provide military support and logistics where needed and otherwise stay within their zone.
It's about time the Yanks let go of the full spectrum dominance programme and just became a little less scared of everyone or should i say selling to the American public that virtually the west of the world is a threat to America.
The idea is bloody stupid.
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RobbieM: Dude, their system is split along 2 parties lines, where financial interests control what is done!
There is no real democracy anymore, and voting in one new guy is like changing the net curtains inside a vivisection clinic.
Inside without oversight the butchery will still continue.
Lets see whoever gets in will act like a head of state and return dignity to the whitehouse.There's lots of pressure to go along to get along.
Lets see who will get in and have a mature non dogmatic approach to the countries problems, and actually play their part as an example to follow instead of looking like a bunch of clowns on the world stage going through the fasade of playing politics on partisan lines.
Time to take a deep breath, lead by example, put disputes in the hands of the UN and take the same approach as the Germans and Japanese have done since the end of WW2.
Their stance is to provide military support and logistics where needed and otherwise stay within their zone.
It's about time the Yanks let go of the full spectrum dominance programme and just became a little less scared of everyone or should i say selling to the American public that virtually the west of the world is a threat to America.
The idea is bloody stupid.
There is no real democracy anymore, and voting in one new guy is like changing the net curtains inside a vivisection clinic.
Inside without oversight the butchery will still continue.
Lets see whoever gets in will act like a head of state and return dignity to the whitehouse.There's lots of pressure to go along to get along.
Lets see who will get in and have a mature non dogmatic approach to the countries problems, and actually play their part as an example to follow instead of looking like a bunch of clowns on the world stage going through the fasade of playing politics on partisan lines.
Time to take a deep breath, lead by example, put disputes in the hands of the UN and take the same approach as the Germans and Japanese have done since the end of WW2.
Their stance is to provide military support and logistics where needed and otherwise stay within their zone.
It's about time the Yanks let go of the full spectrum dominance programme and just became a little less scared of everyone or should i say selling to the American public that virtually the west of the world is a threat to America.
The idea is bloody stupid.
The only weakness I see in your last statement. We've taken "wacks" several times with the last big one costing about 3800 lives. I don't think the rest of the world is a threat, but I don't think we should back down until we kill most of the bees in the hornets nest. Certainly, we'll be attacked again...and I would suspect in the next 4-5 years. Wouldn't be suprised at all. Of course 7 years since the last and people think it will never happen again. I think that's burying one's head in the sand.
JMO
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Indyfella: The only weakness I see in your last statement. We've taken "wacks" several times with the last big one costing about 3800 lives. I don't think the rest of the world is a threat, but I don't think we should back down until we kill most of the bees in the hornets nest. Certainly, we'll be attacked again...and I would suspect in the next 4-5 years. Wouldn't be suprised at all. Of course 7 years since the last and people think it will never happen again. I think that's burying one's head in the sand.
JMO
JMO
Act for the best and have a military contingency for the worst.Thats the most sensible approach.After all cutting 30 percent from the military budget and maintaining the security services would easily make it possible for america to defend itself!
After all, there really is no need for the obsolete B2 at a cost of $2.2B a shot, especially as their about as invisible as a bus on modern radar.
I was talking to someone saturday, i wont say where they are from but they tracked a B2 on radar while in stealth mode all the way from the states from the UK.They actually laughed about it.
Indy, there are lost of countries taking whacks and some of them have been on the end of misguided American operations.
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Several months ago, the US signed weapons deals with both Saudi and Isreal on high tech precision guided munitions, including penetrators munitions. So Isreal already has the munitions for this.
The Enteppe raid was done by military air transport aircraft with air to air refueling over Africa. Totally different kind of targets in Iran and a totally different air operation for them. But Enteppe saved alot of lives and cudos to the Isrealis for doing it.
On the US providing air to air refueling. Honestly, I don't know.....our policy in the past has been this. Not to provide direct
operational support. For a couple of reasons...our forces have other missions and it brings us into a being a direct participant. Whether this has changed, again I don't know. Indirect operational support...like satellite imagery, yes we have provided.
Every country military intelligence gains technical weapon info for them, Iran's included. But with Iran goes a little beyond just gaining intel. Here are a few examples:
1. Iran attempted to acquire nuclear device triggers
2. The anti Iranian group that first disclosed the Iranian nuclear
program, also smuggled out photos of a nuclear furance.
Nuclear furances are metal melting furances that smelt the
nuclear materials into either nuclear fuel rods or nuclear
device cores. With Russia willing to supply fuel rods, why
have a nuclear furance? Unless you are going to make nuclear
device cores?
3. The IEAI when they had a facility inspection of a Iran facility
found the blue prints of North Korea's nuclear device supplied
by Dr. Khan.
When Musherraf was in the US to meet with GWB one time,
Tenet provide him with copy of it. Musherraf was caught off
guard. Came back to Pakistan and placed Dr. Khan under
house arrest.
So? Iran is not just getting the technical info on making nucs, But also seeks actual equipment and subsystems to make them.
Dirty nucs, conventional explosive with radioactive materials is a real threat as well. But without the fission, you have a much smaller ground zero area. With winds and device placement, you have a real radiation problem. With the amount of nuclear materials, globally in the tons....many accounted for.....with Iran developing a large capcity nulcear processing facilities....dirty nucs are going to be a real problem in the future. I could not agree more.
The word I heard on missing Russia nucs....was closer to 60.....but 60 or 24....it only takes one. Robbie.....that technology I mentioned a while back....the one that does a nuclear isotope signatures? It is critical here. Because we can go back by that isotope signature to the very mine and country that made the nuclear material and the device's nuclear core. If it is a Russian or Ukriane made device, we will know it. The word on the street here is.....we will even know what specific mine in Russia or Ukriane that the materials came from.
The Russian portable nuc.....is a fairly large device from what I have heard......weights about 450 pounds.....takes several men to move around. These were the cold war units, maybe by now they have new ones. Ours now, yes you could get several into a car trunk. Nixon considered for a time, using them in VetNam along the trail.
I have seen some video of the tests on the new interceptor.....it had a high number of hits with complete kills. It is a good improvement over
Patriot. But like anything, you only really know how good they are, if you really got to use them. Hopefully, we will not have to.
And yes, I heard the story of the Isreali that died trying to place the mask on as well. Bad way to go. I never liked them, always felt
castrophoic in them.
The Enteppe raid was done by military air transport aircraft with air to air refueling over Africa. Totally different kind of targets in Iran and a totally different air operation for them. But Enteppe saved alot of lives and cudos to the Isrealis for doing it.
On the US providing air to air refueling. Honestly, I don't know.....our policy in the past has been this. Not to provide direct
operational support. For a couple of reasons...our forces have other missions and it brings us into a being a direct participant. Whether this has changed, again I don't know. Indirect operational support...like satellite imagery, yes we have provided.
Every country military intelligence gains technical weapon info for them, Iran's included. But with Iran goes a little beyond just gaining intel. Here are a few examples:
1. Iran attempted to acquire nuclear device triggers
2. The anti Iranian group that first disclosed the Iranian nuclear
program, also smuggled out photos of a nuclear furance.
Nuclear furances are metal melting furances that smelt the
nuclear materials into either nuclear fuel rods or nuclear
device cores. With Russia willing to supply fuel rods, why
have a nuclear furance? Unless you are going to make nuclear
device cores?
3. The IEAI when they had a facility inspection of a Iran facility
found the blue prints of North Korea's nuclear device supplied
by Dr. Khan.
When Musherraf was in the US to meet with GWB one time,
Tenet provide him with copy of it. Musherraf was caught off
guard. Came back to Pakistan and placed Dr. Khan under
house arrest.
So? Iran is not just getting the technical info on making nucs, But also seeks actual equipment and subsystems to make them.
Dirty nucs, conventional explosive with radioactive materials is a real threat as well. But without the fission, you have a much smaller ground zero area. With winds and device placement, you have a real radiation problem. With the amount of nuclear materials, globally in the tons....many accounted for.....with Iran developing a large capcity nulcear processing facilities....dirty nucs are going to be a real problem in the future. I could not agree more.
The word I heard on missing Russia nucs....was closer to 60.....but 60 or 24....it only takes one. Robbie.....that technology I mentioned a while back....the one that does a nuclear isotope signatures? It is critical here. Because we can go back by that isotope signature to the very mine and country that made the nuclear material and the device's nuclear core. If it is a Russian or Ukriane made device, we will know it. The word on the street here is.....we will even know what specific mine in Russia or Ukriane that the materials came from.
The Russian portable nuc.....is a fairly large device from what I have heard......weights about 450 pounds.....takes several men to move around. These were the cold war units, maybe by now they have new ones. Ours now, yes you could get several into a car trunk. Nixon considered for a time, using them in VetNam along the trail.
I have seen some video of the tests on the new interceptor.....it had a high number of hits with complete kills. It is a good improvement over
Patriot. But like anything, you only really know how good they are, if you really got to use them. Hopefully, we will not have to.
And yes, I heard the story of the Isreali that died trying to place the mask on as well. Bad way to go. I never liked them, always felt
castrophoic in them.
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RobbieM: Act for the best and have a military contingency for the worst.Thats the most sensible approach.After all cutting 30 percent from the military budget and maintaining the security services would easily make it possible for america to defend itself!
After all, there really is no need for the obsolete B2 at a cost of $2.2B a shot, especially as their about as invisible as a bus on modern radar.
I was talking to someone saturday, i wont say where they are from but they tracked a B2 on radar while in stealth mode all the way from the states from the UK.They actually laughed about it.
Indy, there are lost of countries taking whacks and some of them have been on the end of misguided American operations.
After all, there really is no need for the obsolete B2 at a cost of $2.2B a shot, especially as their about as invisible as a bus on modern radar.
I was talking to someone saturday, i wont say where they are from but they tracked a B2 on radar while in stealth mode all the way from the states from the UK.They actually laughed about it.
Indy, there are lost of countries taking whacks and some of them have been on the end of misguided American operations.
Whoops, correction sunday 8.20pm at an international airport
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Hot_Single_Dude: Lets say you were american and had the right to Vote! Whom do you think they must trust Robbie?
"Must trust"?
LOL Dude.......first of all......when someone enter goverment service here....military or high office......here is what his oath of office says basically. "I swear to uphold the constitution of the United States and to protect the country of the United States against all enemies domestic and foreign." At the end, "so help me, God."
No where in the oath of service, is there 'trust clause' to a leader of the country or military unit. No where in our citizenship laws as Ameicans. That I know of. One has fidelity to the country, not to the office of President.
Meaning we are not obligated to 'trust' the President of the United States. One serves at his pleasure. One is appointed to his decision.
This is a real mis conception. Every one says they want a President, like George Washington, that told the truth when at age 6 he got caught cutting down the cherry tree. George Washington use deception to beat the British.
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Several months ago, the US signed weapons deals with both Saudi and Isreal on high tech precision guided munitions, including penetrators munitions. So Isreal already has the munitions for this.
The Enteppe raid was done by military air transport aircraft with air to air refueling over Africa. Totally different kind of targets in Iran and a totally different air operation for them. But Enteppe saved alot of lives and cudos to the Isrealis for doing it.
On the US providing air to air refueling. Honestly, I don't know.....our policy in the past has been this. Not to provide direct
operational support. For a couple of reasons...our forces have other missions and it brings us into a being a direct participant. Whether this has changed, again I don't know. Indirect operational support...like satellite imagery, yes we have provided.
I'm not saying anything secret when i also say the same is included in plastic explosives, most commonly in semtex where you can even identify the batch number.
The Russian porta-nukes are about the same size as a mid sized Samsonite flight case.They have a shelf live of 15 years and have passed their inbuilt shelf life.So i understand they have the yield to basically vaporise one square mile.
There is also a programme that was declassified re the army's plans for space travel where they planned to use nuclear payloads to detonate behind the ship to provide thrust.The nuclear devices that were drawing board for that project were about the size of a football.
The large units your referring to i think are the reputedly known as the "Red Mercury" devices.These were very dirty bombs indeed!
The point is though even with American financial efforts and aid to sweep up and secure all this dirty material it is still out there.And a dirty bomb would make a city uninhabitable, forever as it would be too dangerous to decontaminate.
I can think of 2 locations where to deploy these for maximum effect and cause the collape of the financial market within a few days.Then again my services are not available to anyone.
Some of the work with dual particle beam weapons and microwave weapons is far more effective.If you get the chance to head out near white sands (i'm sure you'll know where i am talking about) you will see far more productive work.
Likewise the Atmospheric heater HAARP up in Alaska is far more reliable ang guaranteed to fry any incoming ISBM warheads electronics.
The Enteppe raid was done by military air transport aircraft with air to air refueling over Africa. Totally different kind of targets in Iran and a totally different air operation for them. But Enteppe saved alot of lives and cudos to the Isrealis for doing it.
On the US providing air to air refueling. Honestly, I don't know.....our policy in the past has been this. Not to provide direct
operational support. For a couple of reasons...our forces have other missions and it brings us into a being a direct participant. Whether this has changed, again I don't know. Indirect operational support...like satellite imagery, yes we have provided.
I'm not saying anything secret when i also say the same is included in plastic explosives, most commonly in semtex where you can even identify the batch number.
The Russian porta-nukes are about the same size as a mid sized Samsonite flight case.They have a shelf live of 15 years and have passed their inbuilt shelf life.So i understand they have the yield to basically vaporise one square mile.
There is also a programme that was declassified re the army's plans for space travel where they planned to use nuclear payloads to detonate behind the ship to provide thrust.The nuclear devices that were drawing board for that project were about the size of a football.
The large units your referring to i think are the reputedly known as the "Red Mercury" devices.These were very dirty bombs indeed!
The point is though even with American financial efforts and aid to sweep up and secure all this dirty material it is still out there.And a dirty bomb would make a city uninhabitable, forever as it would be too dangerous to decontaminate.
I can think of 2 locations where to deploy these for maximum effect and cause the collape of the financial market within a few days.Then again my services are not available to anyone.
Some of the work with dual particle beam weapons and microwave weapons is far more effective.If you get the chance to head out near white sands (i'm sure you'll know where i am talking about) you will see far more productive work.
Likewise the Atmospheric heater HAARP up in Alaska is far more reliable ang guaranteed to fry any incoming ISBM warheads electronics.
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RobbieM:
It's moronic to put blind faith in a man you don't even know
He has secret sources It's moronic to put blind faith in a man you don't even know
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It took the old dude three mounts to find out a bout whom are those endoring him amoung Pastors, and the old dude not distances him self from Hagee and Parsley as well or saying he Rejects their endorsments!
One thing is really funny....Even a Damn foreigner as my self knew all a bout Hagee and Parsley for years and knew all a bout what kinds of monsters those two are and McCain whom lives in there and has been a member og the Congress for years and has been in the military and talks perfectly english and knows every single major lobbyists over there...Tells He did not know before now!
Obama told the same and still they attacking him because of that and not beleivng him totaly and the results of West Virginia and Kentucky showed that clearly.
And McCain .....did not know! Aint he just pathetic in deed telling so?
He did not know?
How did I know then? How did any body else whom can read and have any interest in politics knew?
First he was Honored by those endrosments and now he is rejecting the same? Flip Flopping as no body else.....thats for sure What McCain is a master of! Hagee has decided not participating in election what so ever.....but still all his suppporters and Parcley supprtors can not possibly voting for any body else than McCain .....they know it is a lie and they know it is just for the Time being it is not that wise being on the exact same side as Hagee is and the same side as Parsley is!
Thanks god....Obama is soon going to send McCain out of this election decisive and for sure.....and even Wrights soon to come attacks on Obama will not help!
One thing is really funny....Even a Damn foreigner as my self knew all a bout Hagee and Parsley for years and knew all a bout what kinds of monsters those two are and McCain whom lives in there and has been a member og the Congress for years and has been in the military and talks perfectly english and knows every single major lobbyists over there...Tells He did not know before now!
Obama told the same and still they attacking him because of that and not beleivng him totaly and the results of West Virginia and Kentucky showed that clearly.
And McCain .....did not know! Aint he just pathetic in deed telling so?
He did not know?
How did I know then? How did any body else whom can read and have any interest in politics knew?
First he was Honored by those endrosments and now he is rejecting the same? Flip Flopping as no body else.....thats for sure What McCain is a master of! Hagee has decided not participating in election what so ever.....but still all his suppporters and Parcley supprtors can not possibly voting for any body else than McCain .....they know it is a lie and they know it is just for the Time being it is not that wise being on the exact same side as Hagee is and the same side as Parsley is!
Thanks god....Obama is soon going to send McCain out of this election decisive and for sure.....and even Wrights soon to come attacks on Obama will not help!
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Great news........
McCain campain is going to release McCains state of heath in the end of this week.....unfortunatily the only thing they release will be a bout his physichal health and the matter of mental health is still under cover secresy for sure.....I beleive very understanding they dont want THAT to come out
McCain seems to think like..........he is "as healthy as American economy is", thats why he has a really serious amount of concidration to take care of if he wants to look at least a little bit Serious enough and becoming the next president of the United States of America.
Why may people not know a bout the mans mental health for god sake?
McCain campain is going to release McCains state of heath in the end of this week.....unfortunatily the only thing they release will be a bout his physichal health and the matter of mental health is still under cover secresy for sure.....I beleive very understanding they dont want THAT to come out
McCain seems to think like..........he is "as healthy as American economy is", thats why he has a really serious amount of concidration to take care of if he wants to look at least a little bit Serious enough and becoming the next president of the United States of America.
Why may people not know a bout the mans mental health for god sake?
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Likewise the Atmospheric heater HAARP up in Alaska is far more reliable ang guaranteed to fry any incoming ISBM warheads electronics.
They are field testing a small emp (eltro magnetic pulse energy device) now for riot control. They device heats your skin to a 130 degrees. So we have the 'basics' to transmitted energy devices. Development has been about 12 years. Device sits on a HUMVEE, rotates 360 degree.
It is very effective from the reports I have read on it.
Personally, I think that it will be dirty nuc before fissioned devices that are actually used. Though they found in Afghanistan at a camp, drawings of a fissioned detonation. So these guys were talking about it then.
Either one if you are near enough to the detonation point, can ruin a good day for you. The nuclear reclaimation program that we are running with the Russians, are trying to reclaim the worse isotope materials first.
Just that there is literally 1000s of tonnes of the materials out there.
From a security point, you just have to assume terrorist have access to it and can aquire it.
As for security on fissioned devices. One thing that is of concern. Is Pakistan's nucs. Two of the bomb attacks on Musherraf employed
Pakistani military personnel in them. One was sponsored by the Taliban, the other by AlQeada. Air Force personel one time were the explosive planters and trigger men. Army personel the other time were the explosives providers. All nco and warrant officer level personel. But these are the ranks that normally guard nuclear devices.............so? How secure are the Pakistani nucs when both group are getting into the military enough to pay for hits on the countries President?
If you are concerned with terrorist nuclear devices or home grown terrorist using dirty nucs. Check out a system called IRIS (Intregrated Radiation Information System). It is a airborne platform that detects radioactive materials very accurately. Some 15 countries use it. It gives a color computer map of the terrian over flown with coloring where radiation is. Will show to within 8 feet nuclear cores and dirty nucs.
Can be used on a variety of aviation platforms.
They are field testing a small emp (eltro magnetic pulse energy device) now for riot control. They device heats your skin to a 130 degrees. So we have the 'basics' to transmitted energy devices. Development has been about 12 years. Device sits on a HUMVEE, rotates 360 degree.
It is very effective from the reports I have read on it.
Personally, I think that it will be dirty nuc before fissioned devices that are actually used. Though they found in Afghanistan at a camp, drawings of a fissioned detonation. So these guys were talking about it then.
Either one if you are near enough to the detonation point, can ruin a good day for you. The nuclear reclaimation program that we are running with the Russians, are trying to reclaim the worse isotope materials first.
Just that there is literally 1000s of tonnes of the materials out there.
From a security point, you just have to assume terrorist have access to it and can aquire it.
As for security on fissioned devices. One thing that is of concern. Is Pakistan's nucs. Two of the bomb attacks on Musherraf employed
Pakistani military personnel in them. One was sponsored by the Taliban, the other by AlQeada. Air Force personel one time were the explosive planters and trigger men. Army personel the other time were the explosives providers. All nco and warrant officer level personel. But these are the ranks that normally guard nuclear devices.............so? How secure are the Pakistani nucs when both group are getting into the military enough to pay for hits on the countries President?
If you are concerned with terrorist nuclear devices or home grown terrorist using dirty nucs. Check out a system called IRIS (Intregrated Radiation Information System). It is a airborne platform that detects radioactive materials very accurately. Some 15 countries use it. It gives a color computer map of the terrian over flown with coloring where radiation is. Will show to within 8 feet nuclear cores and dirty nucs.
Can be used on a variety of aviation platforms.
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Indyfella: The only weakness I see in your last statement. We've taken "wacks" several times with the last big one costing about 3800 lives. I don't think the rest of the world is a threat, but I don't think we should back down until we kill most of the bees in the hornets nest. Certainly, we'll be attacked again...and I would suspect in the next 4-5 years. Wouldn't be suprised at all. Of course 7 years since the last and people think it will never happen again. I think that's burying one's head in the sand.
JMO
If you bury your head in the Sand,it doesn't take many guesses as to what will get KickedJMO
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It's for the American people to vote their president, but he will not change the way the military industrial complex functions, nor will he change the arms trade, or perhaps switch funding to the development of the dependancy on fossil fuels.
Clean Energy is the number one priority for anyone who gets in or within the next 200 years this planet will be in such a state it will not be able to support one civilisation.
Tell you what, pour in the budget for say the DIA and employ CALTECH and MIT and every respected university in the world to find and make use of the Over under energy field then and only then will i be impressed.
Thats what the world needs, clean non polluting energy, everything else is just window dressing.