God and medicial healing. (24)
inverphildublin, Dublin Ireland101 Threads 761 PostsI met today with a very prom counselling Psychologogist anyhow as the story goes we where only to meet for 1 hour 2 .5 hours we where still talking..The conversation drifted from one thing or another I wont go into the detail.Then I asked the ? do you believe that god can heal our problems.I was amazed to hear her answer she simply said we do not know. I asked her was this a statement and she quickly changed the subject to medicial op. My ? is can we heal our med problems with gods help and if so how. I know we need docs to heal wounds but can they heal problems with the mid without meds is god the the ?
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I think it depends... sometimes one can't rely solely on religion & beliefs when it comes to needing medical care - otherwise there wouldn't be a need for doctors.
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RedHeadedTaurus: I think it depends... sometimes one can't rely solely on religion & beliefs when it comes to needing medical care - otherwise there wouldn't be a need for doctors.
Doctors prescibe drugs at the best of times we do not need does that make them gods or they just fobbing us off. To move on to the next pat and hence make more money for the drug com and themselves keep the users happy.
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inverphil: Doctors prescibe drugs at the best of times we do not need does that make them gods or they just fobbing us off. To move on to the next pat and hence make more money for the drug com and themselves keep the users happy.
No, of course it doesn't make them 'God'.
Have no idea about the medication, Phil - can't comment on that - I don't take any meds, thus far.
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inverphil: I met today with a very prom counselling Psychologogist anyhow as the story goes we where only to meet for 1 hour 2 .5 hours we where still talking..The conversation drifted from one thing or another I wont go into the detail.Then I asked the ? do you believe that god can heal our problems.I was amazed to hear her answer she simply said we do not know. I asked her was this a statement and she quickly changed the subject to medicial op. My ? is can we heal our med problems with gods help and if so how. I know we need docs to heal wounds but can they heal problems with the mid without meds is god the the ?
we can solve our health problems with the help of God...i will tell u abt what happened in my country(a couple of years ago...).There was a woman and she had cancer.She was supposed to die in a month or so.But she din't want to. She had kids to grow up.And she started praying God to help her( she refused to take any kind of medicine) and she's still alive! Doctors couldn't explain the miracle
so yes....God helps indeed...
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Well, In fact some religions actually kill members needlessly .
Take for example.. Jehovah's witness . and no blood.
I have actually seen them let an 17 yr old boy bleed to death because their religion won't allow to give blood.
this is when the doctors should have the right to over ride the religion!
Take for example.. Jehovah's witness . and no blood.
I have actually seen them let an 17 yr old boy bleed to death because their religion won't allow to give blood.
this is when the doctors should have the right to over ride the religion!
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rasgumby: Well, In fact some religions actually kill members needlessly .
Take for example.. Jehovah's witness . and no blood.
I have actually seen them let an 17 yr old boy bleed to death because their religion won't allow to give blood.
this is when the doctors should have the right to over ride the religion!
Take for example.. Jehovah's witness . and no blood.
I have actually seen them let an 17 yr old boy bleed to death because their religion won't allow to give blood.
this is when the doctors should have the right to over ride the religion!
Different story if you need blood you need blood. Hell you would kill an animal if it was hurting .
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Doctors and the medical system can be as fallible as anything else, we've seen that plenty of times recently with the various scandals in Ireland, misdiagnoses, poor equipment, etc. God doesn't cure anything, the belief in a deity might provide an inner source of strength which may help a person overcome an illness, call it the placebo effect or whatever, but that's as far as it goes. Find me any amputees who've been cured recently and I may reconsider.
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BobBilly: Doctors and the medical system can be as fallible as anything else, we've seen that plenty of times recently with the various scandals in Ireland, misdiagnoses, poor equipment, etc. God doesn't cure anything, the belief in a deity might provide an inner source of strength which may help a person overcome an illness, call it the placebo effect or whatever, but that's as far as it goes. Find me any amputees who've been cured recently and I may reconsider.
Mind man not surgery.
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sorry- if it worked, i know frm personal experience, some people who wuldn't have died- good, very religious people, who were heavily involved in the church and helping others, pray cnstantly, doing good works for the church and not thinking of themselves.
but if it works for you..... then I say 'go for it',
I do believe that a positive attitude to your own survival goes a long way though
but if it works for you..... then I say 'go for it',
I do believe that a positive attitude to your own survival goes a long way though
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jampet: sorry- if it worked, i know frm personal experience, some people who wuldn't have died- good, very religious people, who were heavily involved in the church and helping others, pray cnstantly, doing good works for the church and not thinking of themselves.
but if it works for you..... then I say 'go for it',
I do believe that a positive attitude to your own survival goes a long way though
but if it works for you..... then I say 'go for it',
I do believe that a positive attitude to your own survival goes a long way though
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Emanuellla: we can solve our health problems with the help of God...i will tell u abt what happened in my country(a couple of years ago...).There was a woman and she had cancer.She was supposed to die in a month or so.But she din't want to. She had kids to grow up.And she started praying God to help her( she refused to take any kind of medicine) and she's still alive! Doctors couldn't explain the miracle
so yes....God helps indeed...
so yes....God helps indeed...
That's all the proof I need.
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ooby_dooby: That's all the proof I need.
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Now we are moving
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jampet: sorry- if it worked, i know frm personal experience, some people who wuldn't have died- good, very religious people, who were heavily involved in the church and helping others, pray cnstantly, doing good works for the church and not thinking of themselves.
but if it works for you..... then I say 'go for it',
I do believe that a positive attitude to your own survival goes a long way though
but if it works for you..... then I say 'go for it',
I do believe that a positive attitude to your own survival goes a long way though
I think it's the faith that heals, not who the faith may be in. Mind over matter.
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dcj22: I think it's the faith that heals, not who the faith may be in. Mind over matter.
Thank you that helps.
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I would think one would want to use doctors....that is why G-d put them here....to help heal people....however, there are mysteries of healing that no one can explain....they are rare indeed, but i believe faith in G-d is always a good thing to have.....
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Emanuellla: we can solve our health problems with the help of God...i will tell u abt what happened in my country(a couple of years ago...).There was a woman and she had cancer.She was supposed to die in a month or so.But she din't want to. She had kids to grow up.And she started praying God to help her( she refused to take any kind of medicine) and she's still alive! Doctors couldn't explain the miracle
so yes....God helps indeed...
Or perhaps the Immune System of the Lady recovered,owing to her Positive Attitude,thus enabling her System to kill the Cancer!so yes....God helps indeed...
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Conrad73: Or perhaps the Immune System of the Lady recovered,owing to her Positive Attitude,thus enabling her System to kill the Cancer!
That's what I think. Mind over matter.
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inverphil: I met today with a very prom counselling Psychologogist anyhow as the story goes we where only to meet for 1 hour 2 .5 hours we where still talking..The conversation drifted from one thing or another I wont go into the detail.Then I asked the ? do you believe that god can heal our problems.I was amazed to hear her answer she simply said we do not know. I asked her was this a statement and she quickly changed the subject to medicial op. My ? is can we heal our med problems with gods help and if so how. I know we need docs to heal wounds but can they heal problems with the mid without meds is god the the ?
I'll tell you what, thinking positive did wonders for me recently......jk.
I'm all for the power of the mind but ill stick with the antibiotics and pain relief i am on unless i want to die pretty fast
You'll love a book called Arigo: Surgeon of the rusty knife.See if you can find a copy, i sense it will give you more questions to ask next time you see her.
I cant wait to hear what she says as a psych, unless you believe uneducated peasants in Brazil can perform detailed surgical procedures without even being able to read.
It's pretty damn incredible.
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