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Jun 17, 2008 1:38 PM CST Supplements Help
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Why Drug Companies Do Not Want You to Take Supplements
by Flora Stay, D.D.S.

(NaturalNews) Supplements like Coenzyme Q10, amino acids, even a daily multiple vitamin can provide your body with natural health benefits. So why would the pharmaceutical companies have a problem with this? Think about it. If nutritional supplements worked for even a small portion of the people currently bound to their prescription medications for heart disease, arthritis, diabetes and other degenerative diseases, the drug companies would stand to lose a lot of money!

That's why they spend tons of money trying to discredit anything that may even hint of helping you. Americans more than ever before realize the importance of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients in not only preventing disease, but also in promoting good health.

For example, nonprescription guaifenesin works well to clear phlegm from the chest. Guaifenesin has also been used to manage symptoms of fibromyalgia.

The aging baby boomer generation is becoming skeptical about drugs and turning more to supplements. According to the Alliance of Dietary/Food Supplement Association, calcium, glucosamine, coenzyme Q 10, and women's multi-vitamins are some of the supplements most preferred and purchased.

This makes sense since women are most at risk of developing osteoporosis and their physicians will likely prescribe hormone replacement therapy. However, reports indicate multiple side effects to these types of treatment. Women are therefore looking at nutritional supplements as an alternative, such as calcium magnesium supplements or glucosamine.

Stress, according to current medical research, depletes our bodies' level of vital nutrients. With air pollution, junk foods and the high level of stress most Americans function under, nutritional supplements should be part of everyone's daily routine.

Today, more than ever, augmenting your diets with dietary supplements makes good sense. But more than that, you also need to be open to the idea that these vitamins and minerals may help you escape the ravages of some of the diseases that many of us as we age fall prey to. That being said, it's important to do some homework and choose the right supplements for you in the proper dosages.



Do you use supplements regularly?
Are you informed as to their benefit?
Do you take many prescription drugs?
What health conditions or diseases have you been diagnosed with?
Would you be open to a Natural drug free solution which will HEAL you without sideffects?
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Jun 17, 2008 2:56 PM CST Supplements Help
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Thanks for the info that is really useful and helpful HL. I just bought some supplements today.....
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Jun 17, 2008 3:02 PM CST Supplements Help
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Also interesting is how doctors and hospitals don't always approve. They INSISTED my husband not take Mona Vie during his illness because they "didn't know how it interacted with the chemo." Come on! It's a fruit drink! Of course, people on a neutropenic diet couldn't have it, but they could take it when they weren't neutropenic to help build up their WBC, etc. Makes no sense to me.
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Jun 17, 2008 3:07 PM CST Supplements Help
easygoingguy
easygoingguyeasygoingguysomewhere in paradise, Western Australia Australia27 Threads 274 Posts
I`ve been extolling the virtues of natural supplements for years but too many brainwashed people out there to even listen
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Jun 17, 2008 4:41 PM CST Supplements Help
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
I don't take any prescription pills. But, I do regularly take Siberian Ginseng and Vitamin B Complex to give me energy wave
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Jun 17, 2008 5:03 PM CST Supplements Help
Roseblossum
RoseblossumRoseblossumtown,, Ontario Canada44 Threads 293 Posts
Well said. If you don't know the drug that is prescribed, lookit up.
Unfortunely these drug companies can't wait to get a drug out on the market. I have had first hand at getting a drug(prescribed) to find out the research is limited, and the groups(participants) were tested only for 12 weeks, then 6 months and with that the drug was on the market. Also there was no listing of long term side effects.

And that scares the hell out of me. Drugs on the market without long term side effects.

I never took the drug. Get informed, and do your research for prescribed drugs and supplements. Your nearest pharmacy is the best bet.


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Jun 17, 2008 5:13 PM CST Supplements Help
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
WhatUwish4: Also interesting is how doctors and hospitals don't always approve. They INSISTED my husband not take Mona Vie during his illness because they "didn't know how it interacted with the chemo." Come on! It's a fruit drink! Of course, people on a neutropenic diet couldn't have it, but they could take it when they weren't neutropenic to help build up their WBC, etc. Makes no sense to me.



Of course they don't approve...

Doctor's Don't Make Money Off Of Well People!!!

Doctor's Don't Make Money Off Of Supplements!!!

Many of our doctors attended colleges that did not offer courses on Natural Medicine and the use of supplements. Fortunately, these subjects are being reintroduced as courses of study at some of the main colleges.
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Jun 17, 2008 5:14 PM CST Supplements Help
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
FYI AOL just posted an article on how the FDA is taking aim on supplements as phony cancer treatments. There's probably some truth to there being scams, etc., but there's just as much dishonesty from the pharma's and the FDA. Bottom line, it's YOUR body!
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Jun 17, 2008 5:25 PM CST Supplements Help
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
I don't take any prescription meds.. But I do take a multi vit with stuff for your tummy in it too.. milk thistle and vitamin C.


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Jun 17, 2008 5:50 PM CST Supplements Help
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Roseblossum: Well said. If you don't know the drug that is prescribed, lookit up.
Unfortunely these drug companies can't wait to get a drug out on the market. I have had first hand at getting a drug(prescribed) to find out the research is limited, and the groups(participants) were tested only for 12 weeks, then 6 months and with that the drug was on the market. Also there was no listing of long term side effects.

And that scares the hell out of me. Drugs on the market without long term side effects.

I never took the drug. Get informed, and do your research for prescribed drugs and supplements. Your nearest pharmacy is the best bet.



A good source to reference prescription drugs and their side effects, also warnings of other medications NOT to take while taking this medicine is www.drugs.com

People, get informed... for your own sake and the sake of your loved ones!!!

Too many have taken the advice of doctors as if they are God.
They have all of that education, surely they must know what they are talking about. ??? Well, tell that to the Neurologist who told me that I would have Fibromyalgia for the rest of my life! When I told him, "I don't receive that", he got really mad and told me in an angry voice, "Well, you'd better receive it because you will still have it when you are 82!"
NOT!!! I got rid of it in 10 days! Ha, ha, ha!
Used an immune system balancer.

I do not take any drugs, not even aspirin.
I do not go to Medical Doctors, unless I am severely injured requiring stitches or my D.O.T. Physical which is required every 2 years. I have a Chiropractor who is licensed in every type of practice you can think of. All of the eastern healing techniques too. He is into holistic treatments and Natural Healing methods.
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Jun 17, 2008 5:56 PM CST Supplements Help
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Absolutely true! I have a girlfriend who is a vet who routinely mixes eastern and western medicines. She does not "overvaccinate" and will try acupuncture over drugs, etc. I can't say she is completely holistic, but I welcome her approach!
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Jun 17, 2008 6:11 PM CST Supplements Help
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
WhatUwish4: FYI AOL just posted an article on how the FDA is taking aim on supplements as phony cancer treatments. There's probably some truth to there being scams, etc., but there's just as much dishonesty from the pharma's and the FDA. Bottom line, it's YOUR body!


I just read that article and it's nothing new.

The claims these teas and products make ARE true. They really do bring healing from cancer.
FDA's beef is that they have made it illegal for ANYONE to proclaim that their product can heal any specified disease, unless the product has been certified by the FDA to do so. The FDA refuses to give the certification, using the excuse that enough research has not been done to prove the healing due to the use of the product. The government also will not supply funding for the research. The fact of the matter is, that these claims are backed up by scientific evidence, but FDA refuses the evidence. These products are not drugs and should not be under FDA's legislation to begin with. They are not chemicals. They are plants, ground into powder, or steeped as a tea. They have been used for thousands of years. Modern Medicine has only been in existance for just over 200 years and they think they know all. Cancer is BIG BUSINESS, they do not want people to know there are simple cures, as it would put them out of business. They are the ones who are GREEDY! Do you think they care about YOU?? Hell NO they do NOT!!! They care about your MONEY. Even if you are on government assistance and you have Medicaid or Medicare coverage, and you do not pay money out of your pocket, the government is picking up the tab. It's racketeering! Tell me, why did President Bush appoint the heads of the top Pharmaceutical Coorporations to his Cabinet??!!
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Jun 17, 2008 6:17 PM CST Supplements Help
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
WhatUwish4: They INSISTED my husband not take Mona Vie during his illness because they "didn't know how it interacted with the chemo." Come on! .


Hmmmm I find it disturbing that you are angry that they did not ant to take a risk with your husbands health
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Jun 17, 2008 6:22 PM CST Supplements Help
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
crotalus_p: Hmmmm I find it disturbing that you are angry that they did not ant to take a risk with your husbands health


I'm angry, but not because of that. I do find it very odd that their answer was a flat "No" when they didn't even know what the product was. Moreover, when my husband's counts were up, and he was able to eat fruits and veggies, they encouraged this wholeheartedly... but not a fruit drink with possible healing qualities. Not angry, just can't see the logic...
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Jun 17, 2008 6:23 PM CST Supplements Help
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
I also know that smoking depletes your vitamin C... .. and you only absorb a third of the iron you take (in tablet form at least)... and that Vit C helps you hang on to more of the iron too.
(my doc says)
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Jun 17, 2008 6:24 PM CST Supplements Help
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
HealthyLiving: These products are not drugs


Yes they are like it or not they contain chemical's that can be classed as “drugs” (for want of a better word) most drugs originated from plant form at some stage , all supplements should be treated as medication by the user as whilst the concentration of the active chemical may be lower than in it’s pharmaceutical equivalent it is still present enabling the possibility of overdose
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Jun 17, 2008 6:24 PM CST Supplements Help
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
And just as another point of interest, I think this particular product is now in the process of getting FDA approval. I have no interest in it either way. It was shipped to us for free from someone who heard our situation and just wanted to do it. So I took the stuff instead!
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Jun 17, 2008 6:28 PM CST Supplements Help
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
WhatUwish4: Not angry, just can't see the logic...


They where administering a dangerous chemical and did not want to add to the risk by having you husband increase certain chemicals in his body when it was not known how those chemicals would react

Can you see the logic now dunno
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Jun 17, 2008 6:35 PM CST Supplements Help
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
The TOXIC chemical, in this case, was only administered once a month and leaves the system within 24 hours. The remainder of the time your own blood does the work. No logic yet. Try again
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Jun 17, 2008 6:42 PM CST Supplements Help
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
crotalus_p: Yes they are like it or not they contain chemical's that can be classed as “drugs” (for want of a better word) most drugs originated from plant form at some stage , all supplements should be treated as medication by the user as whilst the concentration of the active chemical may be lower than in it’s pharmaceutical equivalent it is still present enabling the possibility of overdose


I am sorry, but there are NO chemicals in Natural Supplements.
None at all.
As you yourself stated, "Most drugs originated from plant form at some stage"... absolutely, it was Natural plant matter, but then they had to add chemicals, which then made the drugs, pharmaceuticals.

I will tell you straight up, that I got my training with God's guidance.
He told me, "Do NOT put chemicals in an organic body." He led me to the herbs and the research of them. He put them on the earth because they were GOOD! I do not care if everyone believes in God. I know that He has guided me into this area, to help others be healed through Natural means. I know that chemicals break down the body's immune system, which causes diseases. I know that herbs, plants, build up the immune system and restore health. I know because I am one who uses them and is in good health, when Medical Doctors said I was incurable. I know that some doctors are ignorant. They believe what they were taught. I believe what I learned through research and doing it myself, and being healed, and seeing others get healed.

When you understand how the body functions, you don't treat the symptom, you do what it takes to make the body return to normal and function the way it was created to. That's what Holistic means, treating the whole body, balance.
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