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Jun 27, 2008 11:26 AM CST Obama for President........duodenary
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
opalbeauty: I was just driving in the car with my 14 year old daughter and I guess she was thinking about this but she said to me that "we are not going to be able to advance in technology because with the deficit we are not going to have any money to put into it."

I am glad my 14 year old is intelligent and intutive enough to know that our country is being led in the wrong direction. I'm happy that she is showing concern. I think the young voters will be out to vote in huge numbers this election.


Bright question for a 14 year old. My answer is that advanced technologies are financially self sustaining. That once made feasible, investment becomes a reality because of both capitol investment
of persons wishing to make a profit on a business risk AND by firms
that want cutting edge advancements in their fields for future sales.
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Jun 27, 2008 12:16 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
ttom500: Bright question for a 14 year old. My answer is that advanced technologies are financially self sustaining. That once made feasible, investment becomes a reality because of both capitol investment
of persons wishing to make a profit on a business risk AND by firms
that want cutting edge advancements in their fields for future sales.


Her teachers talked a lot about politics last year. Most Americans are more aware today about what is going on in the world and that includes the young. And yes she is a very intelligent girl. I am sure she has a higher IQ than me. She actually corrected me on the amount of the deficit today.....It is over 9 trillion dollars.

But my point is that when young people can't afford gas to get to work with the pay they get from low paying jobs because of all the oil speculation and the outsourcing of jobs making China and India more competitive than ever in oil demand. We have a new generation that will be voting for CHANGE. That is one of the reasons, and also the majority of young people now know that America was misled into war that is costing billions a week and unjust in taking innocent lifes.
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Jun 27, 2008 12:43 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
opalbeauty: Her teachers talked a lot about politics last year. Most Americans are more aware today about what is going on in the world and that includes the young. And yes she is a very intelligent girl. I am sure she has a higher IQ than me. She actually corrected me on the amount of the deficit today.....It is over 9 trillion dollars.

But my point is that when young people can't afford gas to get to work with the pay they get from low paying jobs because of all the oil speculation and the outsourcing of jobs making China and India more competitive than ever in oil demand. We have a new generation that will be voting for CHANGE. That is one of the reasons, and also the majority of young people now know that America was misled into war that is costing billions a week and unjust in taking innocent lifes.



It is always will be thier right to vote for whom they choose, Opal.
And the situations that they will face in their later years, are likely to be even more challenging that those of our fathers or of ourselves to today. How we handle our challenges of today, needs to be an example for them. One that they can look back on and say they did thier best, and they attempted great and honorable things in a hard and difficult world.

We are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, Opal. But I also want a safer and better world for the children of my brother. We only really have a difference in the vision of how to get there. That common desire of Americans to have thier children live better and safer than themselves is a core value to our country. It is part of our love for them.

Turning this to the political issues raised by your post some. I wonder if those classroom political discussions include elements of 9/11, the holocaust, and such. I've found often that at the high school level they fail to address such issues.

And I question how we can improve our economy if in the White House
sits a President that will not let us develop the various energy resources of the country....for job creation and for those such things as National Security and international BOP.

The best that we can do....is teach them a love of country and its people of all races, creeds, religions, and nationalities...to use thier own heads and judgements....to have the moral conviction to tell the truth....and to understand that in this world there are those that
would do harm to them for their just being American. That can be done if you are a far lefter, a far righter, or a middle of the roader.
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Jun 27, 2008 12:45 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Excuse me everyone for this interruption but a friend just sent it to me and it cracked me up. rolling on the floor laughing

The Irish View of our Election, The Irish are such clear thinkers:


'We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you are even bothering to hold
an election in the United States.

On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer,
running against a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a war hero married to a beautiful
rich woman who owns a beer distributorship.

What are you lads thinking over there?'
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Jun 27, 2008 12:47 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty: I was just driving in the car with my 14 year old daughter and I guess she was thinking about this but she said to me that "we are not going to be able to advance in technology because with the deficit we are not going to have any money to put into it."

I am glad my 14 year old is intelligent and intutive enough to know that our country is being led in the wrong direction. I'm happy that she is showing concern. I think the young voters will be out to vote in huge numbers this election.
Inovation and Progress has never Come because of Government,but in Spite of it.
Teach your Children Well!!!!!!!!!!!cool
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Jun 27, 2008 12:57 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Dual Message so as not to interrupt too much....

TTom....It is the best we can do to teach them to love their country, but I would add that we need to teach them TO THINK and not teach them what to think. A big problem in the education these days - particularly government run schools.


SkyBow...Very funny joke! Glad you can poke humor on both sides of the fence!

super ...Sandbox...hole
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Jun 27, 2008 1:03 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Thank you Wish, I promised myself I wouldn't hijack, just SHARE and quietly fade away.heart wings
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Jun 27, 2008 1:04 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Skybow: Excuse me everyone for this interruption but a friend just sent it to me and it cracked me up.

The Irish View of our Election, The Irish are such clear thinkers:'We, in Ireland, can't figure out why you are even bothering to hold
an election in the United States.

On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer,
running against a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a war hero married to a beautiful
rich woman who owns a beer distributorship.

What are you lads thinking over there?'


Ah those Irish....always enjoying the foam at the top of the glass and never considerin the what lies at the bottom of the brew.:-)

I have read this one in the past. But is clever. I suspect they sit in thier pubs.....saying......'wonder what the yanks are debatin now'?

One chimes in....sipping from his larger.....'I heard they are thinkin
of makin windmills, like they got in Holland.'

Another says.....taking a sip from a warm draft.....'Aye, I have heard that as well.'

A third says....nippling on a cookie....."That is just like those yanks,
the last time they were here in the 40s, they were chasin our women.
Now thier women got em chasing windmills. Serves em right, for chasing our women.'

The Irish have a strange sense of justice.:-)

Please note the misproper use of on the Crowns English in the Irish conversation.
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Jun 27, 2008 1:07 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
WhatUwish4: Dual Message so as not to interrupt too much....

TTom....It is the best we can do to teach them to love their country, but I would add that we need to teach them TO THINK and not teach them what to think. A big problem in the education these days - particularly government run schools.SkyBow...Very funny joke! Glad you can poke humor on both sides of the fence!

...Sandbox...


My daughter's social studies teacher did not tell the students what party he was but he did tell them to watch the debates, do research, choose a canidate and prepare for a debate. Which I thought was teaching them very well at that age to be independent thinkers.
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Jun 27, 2008 1:10 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
ttom500: Ah those Irish....always enjoying the foam at the top of the glass and never considerin the what lies at the bottom of the brew.:-)

I have read this one in the past. But is clever. I suspect they sit in thier pubs.....saying......'wonder what the yanks are debatin now'?

One chimes in....sipping from his larger.....'I heard they are thinkin
of makin windmills, like they got in Holland.'

Another says.....taking a sip from a warm draft.....'Aye, I have heard that as well.'

A third says....nippling on a cookie....."That is just like those yanks,
the last time they were here in the 40s, they were chasin our women.
Now thier women got em chasing windmills. Serves em right, for chasing our women.'

The Irish have a strange sense of justice.:-)

Please note the misproper use of on the Crowns English in the Irish conversation.


All is forgiven here my child, I'm a equal opportunity offender myself so I don't know how much my forgiveness counts.
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Jun 27, 2008 1:15 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
comfort

Some people just have no sense of humor.
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Jun 27, 2008 1:17 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
opalbeauty: My daughter's social studies teacher did not tell the students what party he was but he did tell them to watch the debates, do research, choose a canidate and prepare for a debate. Which I thought was teaching them very well at that age to be independent thinkers.



It's a darn good thing he did, too, because I'm sure you're not influencing her opinions in the least! LOL Is she ALLOWED to have a differing opinion around you?
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Jun 27, 2008 1:36 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
hmmm, Bush says they are making progess in Iraq....I think 6 oil companies have contracts now.

CNNMoney.com

By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
June 27, 2008: 11:15 AM EDT


commodity stocks reflect commodity prices.
Rocketing oil prices, which Friday surged to a record $142.26 a barrel, have been reflective of a broader first-half rally in commodity prices driven by a combination of speculators and global demand.

While that was bad news for consumers and many areas of the economy in the first half - it was good news for any company in fuel-related businesses.

Of the 25 biggest S&P 500 gainers in the first half, 17 were energy - including coal firm Massey Energy (MEE), oil services company Nabors Industries (NBR) and natural gas firm EOG Resources (EOG).

Commodity prices could be volatile through the rest of the year, but the trend is generally expected to remain up. And that means those stocks are likely to continue rising in the second half.

An OPEC official said Thursday that prices could hit $170 this summer. And Goldman Sachs recently upgraded the oilfield services sector, predicting strong profit growth amid higher prices and more drilling activity.

Stealth winners
"Commodities are big for us," said Matt King, chief investment strategist at Bell Investment Advisors. "Investors need to hedge their portfolios right now against inflation."

The best-performing industries in the first half were trucking (up 50.2%), coal (up 41.5%), oil and gas (up 30%), steel (up 27.5%) and railroads (up 25.5%). But other areas held up too, such as brewers (up 16.4%) and biotech (up 9.5%).

Of the ten sectors tracked by Standard & Poor's, the best performers in the first half were energy (up 6.5%), and materials (up 3.4%). The other eight posted losses, led by financials, which fell 25.1%.

Bond insurer MBIA (MBI) was the biggest S&P 500 loser in the first half, down 73.6%.

Commodities and transportation stocks led the list of biggest S&P 500 gainers in the first half. Other advancers included Big Lots (BIG, Fortune 500) (up 102.2%), Hasbro (HAS), (up 49.5%), Wrigley (WWY, Fortune 500), (up 33.9%) and LSI Logic (LSI) (+27.5%).

2008 Fortune 500
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Jun 27, 2008 2:04 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
WhatUwish4: It's a darn good thing he did, too, because I'm sure you're not influencing her opinions in the least! LOL Is she ALLOWED to have a differing opinion around you?


Your insult was not necessary. It says more about you than it does me.
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Jun 27, 2008 2:06 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
Conrad73: Inovation and Progress has never Come because of Government,but in Spite of it.
Teach your Children Well!!!!!!!!!!!


I forgot to quote you Conrad....

hmmm, Bush says they are making progess in Iraq....I think 6 oil companies have contracts now.

CNNMoney.com

By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
June 27, 2008: 11:15 AM EDT


commodity stocks reflect commodity prices.
Rocketing oil prices, which Friday surged to a record $142.26 a barrel, have been reflective of a broader first-half rally in commodity prices driven by a combination of speculators and global demand.

While that was bad news for consumers and many areas of the economy in the first half - it was good news for any company in fuel-related businesses.

Of the 25 biggest S&P 500 gainers in the first half, 17 were energy - including coal firm Massey Energy (MEE), oil services company Nabors Industries (NBR) and natural gas firm EOG Resources (EOG).

Commodity prices could be volatile through the rest of the year, but the trend is generally expected to remain up. And that means those stocks are likely to continue rising in the second half.

An OPEC official said Thursday that prices could hit $170 this summer. And Goldman Sachs recently upgraded the oilfield services sector, predicting strong profit growth amid higher prices and more drilling activity.

Stealth winners
"Commodities are big for us," said Matt King, chief investment strategist at Bell Investment Advisors. "Investors need to hedge their portfolios right now against inflation."

The best-performing industries in the first half were trucking (up 50.2%), coal (up 41.5%), oil and gas (up 30%), steel (up 27.5%) and railroads (up 25.5%). But other areas held up too, such as brewers (up 16.4%) and biotech (up 9.5%).

Of the ten sectors tracked by Standard & Poor's, the best performers in the first half were energy (up 6.5%), and materials (up 3.4%). The other eight posted losses, led by financials, which fell 25.1%.

Bond insurer MBIA (MBI) was the biggest S&P 500 loser in the first half, down 73.6%.

Commodities and transportation stocks led the list of biggest S&P 500 gainers in the first half. Other advancers included Big Lots (BIG, Fortune 500) (up 102.2%), Hasbro (HAS), (up 49.5%), Wrigley (WWY, Fortune 500), (up 33.9%) and LSI Logic (LSI) (+27.5%).

2008 Fortune 500
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Jun 27, 2008 2:21 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
opalbeauty: Your insult was not necessary. It says more about you than it does me.


Opal, it's not an insult when it's a well-deserved question. I've listened to you ad nauseum on this site and even though many others have presented very logical arguments, I have yet to see you conceed one point. It' a serious question directed to you for you to consider. You don't listen to anyone who isn't in agreement with you and you tend to attack them for countering your arguments. You just keep going and going and going on whatever tangent you feel like going on but rarely do you actually stop to answer a direct question with a direct answer. Sorry, but you brought it all up.
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Jun 27, 2008 2:24 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty: I forgot to quote you Conrad....

hmmm, Bush says they are making progess in Iraq....I think 6 oil companies have contracts now.

CNNMoney.com

By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
June 27, 2008: 11:15 AM EDTcommodity stocks reflect commodity prices.
Rocketing oil prices, which Friday surged to a record $142.26 a barrel, have been reflective of a broader first-half rally in commodity prices driven by a combination of speculators and global demand.

While that was bad news for consumers and many areas of the economy in the first half - it was good news for any company in fuel-related businesses.

Of the 25 biggest S&P 500 gainers in the first half, 17 were energy - including coal firm Massey Energy (MEE), oil services company Nabors Industries (NBR) and natural gas firm EOG Resources (EOG).

Commodity prices could be volatile through the rest of the year, but the trend is generally expected to remain up. And that means those stocks are likely to continue rising in the second half.

An OPEC official said Thursday that prices could hit $170 this summer. And Goldman Sachs recently upgraded the oilfield services sector, predicting strong profit growth amid higher prices and more drilling activity.

Stealth winners
"Commodities are big for us," said Matt King, chief investment strategist at Bell Investment Advisors. "Investors need to hedge their portfolios right now against inflation."

The best-performing industries in the first half were trucking (up 50.2%), coal (up 41.5%), oil and gas (up 30%), steel (up 27.5%) and railroads (up 25.5%). But other areas held up too, such as brewers (up 16.4%) and biotech (up 9.5%).

Of the ten sectors tracked by Standard & Poor's, the best performers in the first half were energy (up 6.5%), and materials (up 3.4%). The other eight posted losses, led by financials, which fell 25.1%.

Bond insurer MBIA (MBI) was the biggest S&P 500 loser in the first half, down 73.6%.

Commodities and transportation stocks led the list of biggest S&P 500 gainers in the first half. Other advancers included Big Lots (BIG, Fortune 500) (up 102.2%), Hasbro (HAS), (up 49.5%), Wrigley (WWY, Fortune 500), (up 33.9%) and LSI Logic (LSI) (+27.5%).

2008 Fortune 500
Problem is,you say LITTLE about the Nature of the Contracts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!jaw drop doh grin
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Jun 27, 2008 3:03 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
opalbeauty
opalbeautyopalbeautyWorcester County, USA8 Threads 851 Posts
WhatUwish4: Opal, it's not an insult when it's a well-deserved question. I've listened to you ad nauseum on this site and even though many others have presented very logical arguments, I have yet to see you conceed one point. It' a serious question directed to you for you to consider. You don't listen to anyone who isn't in agreement with you and you tend to attack them for countering your arguments. You just keep going and going and going on whatever tangent you feel like going on but rarely do you actually stop to answer a direct question with a direct answer. Sorry, but you brought it all up.


No, mswish4ignorance, I don't agree. and yes a lot of the arguments are repetitive. What, do you think I need to concede to make you happy?
Just because you can't back anything with facts you get upset that I do. I have actually ignored your remarks quite often but if u wish to be ignorant that is your choice. It seems you may be suffering from envy as well. Atleast I can admit that I do learn and THINK from doing research. Ya'll want to believe you're right, keep believing, but don't think you can insult and criticize me and I will just be quite and agree with you. Keep wishing.
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Jun 27, 2008 3:09 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Jun 27, 2008 3:18 PM CST Obama for President........duodenary
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
Would it be wrong of me by saying.... WOOO HOOO.... I am making a killing in the commodities market.... and Gas prices are still below $4 a gallon here..... Thank you Mr. Bush.


Zeecheers
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