does love exist? =( (56)
Jan1305: Not sure breezee, but I think Smoky is talking about romantic love not the love we have for our family...that definitely exists.
I like to think that romantic love can develop into this kind of love too.
It's what I think Smoky understands when she uses the word love - I think she means a love that's selfless.
Well said Smokey, I agree with you totally. Love does not exist,it is a manipulative illusion. Of course parental love exists, but that is all.
Elley: Well said Smokey, I agree with you totally. Love does not exist,it is a manipulative illusion. Of course parental love exists, but that is all.
Hey Elley!!
I was just thinking about you!! and here you are!!
My mum (very self-sacrificing individual) loved my dad, does that count??
Elley: Well said Smokey, I agree with you totally. Love does not exist,it is a manipulative illusion. Of course parental love exists, but that is all.
You cynic!
Jan1305: You cynic!
Okay.... second time I'm ditto-ing you tonight....
Where are ya, Elley..... come out to play!!
All Love springs from the same Well.
From our Ability to Value!
From our Ability to Value!
Conrad73: All Love springs from the same Well.
From our Ability to Value!
From our Ability to Value!
Well Said!!
And you I value, Conrad!!
breezee: Well Said!!
And you I value, Conrad!!
And you I value, Conrad!!
Ayn Rand was a Good Teacher!
Conrad73: All Love springs from the same Well.
From our Ability to Value!
From our Ability to Value!
Elley: Well said Smokey, I agree with you totally. Love does not exist,it is a manipulative illusion. Of course parental love exists, but that is all.
totally disagree with you there!
love exsists....
we might not all be lucky to experience it but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I see lots of couples that TRULLY love each other even if sometimes they also complain about each other.... I can prove that love exists... can you prove love doesn't exist?
Elley: Ahhhhhhh, Flor, how cruel, to use a genuine sincerely felt sentiment towards you and Gongman against me.
1.I was being cynical and provocative, as usual, playing devil,s advocate. What I said above was a reflection of my experiences not yours or anybody else,s.
2.I am sure true love really does exist and is the rock of your relationship with G man, without strings. When I visited you I found love all around you,both of you. Think I need a bloody ladder to get out this hole...stop digging you fool,stop digging....
Lots of hugs and kisses to you both and yes,one day for sure some sweet maiden will sweep me off my feet, turn me upside down......
and empty my pockets.
1.I was being cynical and provocative, as usual, playing devil,s advocate. What I said above was a reflection of my experiences not yours or anybody else,s.
2.I am sure true love really does exist and is the rock of your relationship with G man, without strings. When I visited you I found love all around you,both of you. Think I need a bloody ladder to get out this hole...stop digging you fool,stop digging....
Lots of hugs and kisses to you both and yes,one day for sure some sweet maiden will sweep me off my feet, turn me upside down......
and empty my pockets.
and have lots of fun!
cheer up boy.....
either you do or I'll have to give you my neighbour's irinong
dragonfly88:
ref: Elleys:
and empty my pockets.
ref: Elleys:
that was supposed to be crossed off and not underlined
dragonfly88: and have lots of fun!
cheer up boy.....
either you do or I'll have to give you my neighbour's irinong
cheer up boy.....
either you do or I'll have to give you my neighbour's irinong
Do I get to suck her toes too ?
Elley: Do I get to suck her toes too ?
I don't know you'd have to ask her.... and probably her husband too!
Elley: Ahhhhhhh, Flor, how cruel, to use a genuine sincerely felt sentiment towards you and Gongman against me.
1.I was being cynical and provocative, as usual, playing devil,s advocate. What I said above was a reflection of my experiences not yours or anybody else,s.
2.I am sure true love really does exist and is the rock of your relationship with G man, without strings. When I visited you I found love all around you,both of you. Think I need a bloody ladder to get out this hole...stop digging you fool,stop digging....
Lots of hugs and kisses to you both and yes,one day for sure some sweet maiden will sweep me off my feet, turn me upside down......
and empty my pockets.
1.I was being cynical and provocative, as usual, playing devil,s advocate. What I said above was a reflection of my experiences not yours or anybody else,s.
2.I am sure true love really does exist and is the rock of your relationship with G man, without strings. When I visited you I found love all around you,both of you. Think I need a bloody ladder to get out this hole...stop digging you fool,stop digging....
Lots of hugs and kisses to you both and yes,one day for sure some sweet maiden will sweep me off my feet, turn me upside down......
and empty my pockets.
Not cruel not against you Elley!!!
WITH you ...
1. Your experiences are what you let them be ...
2. Love around both of us ... means when the going gets tough ... we trust we are loving and accepting and strong/wise enough to compromise, and allow each to be responsible for their own behaviour attitude within bounderies that are comfortable to us both! Loving doesn't mean it's a piece of cake ... It means it makes it worth continuying to welcome growth and changes as we continue to learn who we are together as well as who we are seperately ...
3. When the fair maiden turns you upside down ... Remember to keep your pockets ZIPPED UP!!!
FlowerOfTheSun: Not cruel not against you Elley!!!
WITH you ...
1. Your experiences are what you let them be ... loving but careful ... Visualize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Love around both of us ... means when the going gets tough ... we trust we are loving and accepting and strong/wise enough to compromise, and allow each to be responsible for their own behaviour attitude within bounderies that are comfortable to us both! Loving doesn't mean it's a piece of cake ... It means it makes it worth continuying to welcome growth and changes as we continue to learn who we are together as well as who we are seperately ...
3. When the fair maiden turns you upside down ... Remember to keep your pockets ZIPPED UP!!!
WITH you ...
1. Your experiences are what you let them be ... loving but careful ... Visualize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Love around both of us ... means when the going gets tough ... we trust we are loving and accepting and strong/wise enough to compromise, and allow each to be responsible for their own behaviour attitude within bounderies that are comfortable to us both! Loving doesn't mean it's a piece of cake ... It means it makes it worth continuying to welcome growth and changes as we continue to learn who we are together as well as who we are seperately ...
3. When the fair maiden turns you upside down ... Remember to keep your pockets ZIPPED UP!!!
Ahhhhh,with me. Ok, all clear, no harm done. Either way still love you guys.
Pockets ???? Keeping everything zipped up my dear, just need to work on the mouth. See ya later.
yes love does exist, just not for me at this moment in time.
dragonfly88: totally disagree with you there!
love exsists....
we might not all be lucky to experience it but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I see lots of couples that TRULLY love each other even if sometimes they also complain about each other.... I can prove that love exists... can you prove love doesn't exist?
love exsists....
we might not all be lucky to experience it but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I see lots of couples that TRULLY love each other even if sometimes they also complain about each other.... I can prove that love exists... can you prove love doesn't exist?
Bravo Dragonfly!!!!
I agree with you 100% Love exists for sure
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You should take a peak - maybe you'll find some inside you!
And I totally agree with Dragonfly's 1st post... even someone putting ribbish in a bin rather than throwing it on the ground, is an expresion of love.
And Smoky, I know where you're coming from but keep in mind, we are talking about humanoid relations here - we're hardly perfect and so it's highly unlikely we'd be expressing perfect love.
I think it's important we try - even if our attempts at love fall short of noble or pure, perfect...
Love does exist.
Last weekend I somehow found the courage to open up my mother's letters to me for the first time, 13 years after her death. I cried over half the day - big crying. I was totally humbled by her love for me and I'll never know what I ever did to deserve it.... I wish she was here sometimes to hold my hand and stroke my hair - that was Love, my friend Misha.
Not sure breezee, but I think Smoky is talking about romantic love not the love we have for our family...that definitely exists.