Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'.. ( Archived) (178)

Jul 29, 2008 8:25 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
crotalus_p: Hmmmmm we are going to differ on this point , Depending on the duration and severity of the fast any extra “Aid to prayer” can be accounted for by the bodies natural reaction to fasting and it's affect on the brain


I have had an experience following fasting recently.. I had hit a couple of brick walls in my life and needed 'special' intervention..

I am self employed.. which is tough cause the cheques can be slow to come in.. I had to cancel my bank card cause it was stolen so I was down to my last €10.. also I had received a 'I am sorry but you will be not included in our list of candidates letter.' for a job.. so no money.. no bank card.. rejection letter.. can't get any worse really laugh..

On the wednesday I fasted, prayed and read the bible all day.. on the wednesday.. I got a call from the employer saying they had reconsidered my application.... I was called to do the entrance exam.. laugh complete turn around.. then I got this urge to go into town.. at first I ignored the urge (cause I was feelin really lazy.. was on CS actually at the time laugh) and got the subconscious 'word' again..so said a quick prayer asking God if it is him telling me.. let me get a text from a particular person before 1pm.. at that very moment I got the text.. from that person.. so I went in........ to find 2 cheques.. totalling 3.5k.... bit of a breakthrough.. laugh
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Jul 29, 2008 8:26 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
sorry that was the THURSDAY that I got the call and the cheques.. and it was the Tuesday that I fasted.. just clarifying.. .
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Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
If I was going to fast for the mental reaction (I am not suggesting you do) I would aim for a minimum of 3 days hopping for 4-7 days I used to fast every now and then just to test my will power I think I made it to 2 weeks once after the third day most of the hunger go away (this is the point where the body is seriously feeding off it’s self) when I say fast it was water only or coffee black with no sugar or sweetener
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Jul 29, 2008 8:49 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
If I was going to fast for the mental reaction (I am not suggesting you do) I would aim for a minimum of 3 days hopping for 4-7 days I used to fast every now and then just to test my will power I think I made it to 2 weeks once after the third day most of the hunger go away (this is the point where the body is seriously feeding off it’s self) when I say fast it was water only or coffee black with no sugar or sweetener
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Jul 29, 2008 8:53 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
crotalus_p: If I was going to fast for the mental reaction (I am not suggesting you do) I would aim for a minimum of 3 days hopping for 4-7 days I used to fast every now and then just to test my will power I think I made it to 2 weeks once after the third day most of the hunger go away (this is the point where the body is seriously feeding off it’s self) when I say fast it was water only or coffee black with no sugar or sweetener


I wish I could do that... what I did wasn't a patch off that.. but it did work laugh.... this stuff works!! laugh.. anyway have to hit the hay.. can't believe I am still up.. sigh
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Jul 29, 2008 8:55 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
airliner
airlinerairlinerCentral, New Jersey USA23 Threads 2 Polls 5,143 Posts
Aries01: I wish I could do that... what I did wasn't a patch off that.. but it did work .... this stuff works!! .. anyway have to hit the hay.. can't believe I am still up..


Hey Lady isn't it almost 3:00 AM back there? Jesus will love you if you went to bed and got some restrolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 29, 2008 9:00 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
Aries01: anyway have to hit the hay.. can't believe I am still up..


Sweet Dreams wink
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Jul 29, 2008 9:10 PM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
charlos
charloscharlosBraunschweig, Lower Saxony Germany1 Threads 243 Posts
Yes....sweet dreams...

and the next day wake up and USE YOUR BRAIN on something worthwile instead of this religious mid-tempo nuisance.
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Jul 30, 2008 3:27 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
Galwayman2008
Galwayman2008Galwayman2008Galway, Ireland11 Threads 278 Posts
Aries01: ROMAN CATHOLICISM TEACHES


Omnipotence of Mary:
"I come to thee in my distress, O Blessed Mother, for thou art all powerful in heaven and on earth..." Our Lady's Book, Rev. Jas. J. Cashman, CM, ed., (Vincentian Foreign Mission Soc., St. Louis, 1942), p. 31 Imprimi Potest, Marshall F. Winne, CM; Nihil Obstat, Wm. M. Drumm; Imprimatur, Jas. P. Murray, May 20, 1949
"...thou, O Mary, art all-powerful..." Ibid, p. 14
"We need never fear to cast our cares upon Mary, all powerful Mother of God." Ibid, p. 7
"... by the ordinance of God, her power is without limit. All that He could give to Mary, He has given..." The Official Handbook of the Legion of Mary, by Concilium Legionis Mariae (1959), p 11 Nihil Obstat: Michael L. Dempsey, S.T.D., Imprimi Potest: Joannes Carolus, Archbishop of Dublin, March 25, 1953 [Note: A letter, posted in the foreword, from Pius XI to the Legion of Mary 16th Sept., 1933, states his approval thus: "We give a very special blessing to this beautiful and holy work...."]

"Virgin most powerful..."
Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, "The Reign of Jesus Through Mary," p. 248 Imprimi Potest: A Josselin, SMM; Nihil Obstat, John MA Fearns, STD; Imprimatur, Francis Cardinal Spellman, Archishop of NY, 6/24/49
Note: This litany was approved by Rome for 7 years indulgences, 1817; 1933.



You are well read, Aries, I'm impressed.

Which leaves just one other question - why does this subject bother you so much ?. I mean, fervent evangelical catholics are few on the ground these days in Ireland anyway - and those pushing a Holy Mary Mother of God agenda are even fewer. innocent
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Jul 30, 2008 5:05 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
Galwayman2008: You are well read, Aries, I'm impressed.

Which leaves just one other question - why does this subject bother you so much ?. I mean, fervent evangelical catholics are few on the ground these days in Ireland anyway - and those pushing a Holy Mary Mother of God agenda are even fewer.


I just don't like that people are being lied to, to their spiritual detriment.. what can I say I am passionate about the truth... now while I know that most people don't care that much anyway.. I figure at least if they have a clean slate that has its basis in truth, they are at a good place, whether they chose to seek it out further or not... guess I have always been like that.. why I became a lawyer etc.... even when I was younger and found out that there was no Santa.. I felt a big compulsion to tell all the kids the truth.. laugh... that got me into trouble I can tell you.. and mortified my mother.. laugh..

Anyway, clearly I have touched a nerve.. so for that I apologise..

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Jul 30, 2008 5:25 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
skimpydoo
skimpydooskimpydooDublin, Ireland170 Threads 3 Polls 4,805 Posts
Aries01: Did you know that pre-Calvinist Protestantism, the Catholic Church had 'passports to heaven' that you could BUY... for a price... .. you couldn't make this stuff up.. that is why Calvin had to exile to Switzerland, as it was a safe haven politically for persons who were excommunicated from the Church.. his crime.. thinking the passport to heaven and the lack of spirituality in the Church was wrong..


Yeah that also one of the reasons why Martin Luther got pissed of with the church.

Also I do agree that the Church has been corrupt in the past and it may still be. Pope John Paul knew about this and was murdered for trying to clean up the church. Also the Roberto Calvi Murder was also part of this.
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Jul 30, 2008 5:26 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
charlos: Yes....sweet dreams...

and the next day wake up and USE YOUR BRAIN on something worthwile instead of this religious mid-tempo nuisance.
Shadowing us?Hmmm?rolling on the floor laughing conversing wave What's Up?cool
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Jul 30, 2008 5:35 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
Aries01: Did you know that pre-Calvinist Protestantism, the Catholic Church had 'passports to heaven' that you could BUY... for a price... .. you couldn't make this stuff up.. that is why Calvin had to exile to Switzerland, as it was a safe haven politically for persons who were excommunicated from the Church.. his crime.. thinking the passport to heaven and the lack of spirituality in the Church was wrong..

Anyway.. Mark 10 'from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female, for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh, so that they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together let not man seperate'... plus most of the early apostles were married... marriage is one of the most important and sacred unions in the Bible because it is so important to the family, which in turn is so important to society as a whole... some chose celibacy... but it was certainly not a requirement..
Calvin got kicked out of Geneva too,for a good while,and preached in Strasbourg.
Calvinism is NOT a form of Protestantism you'll want to practice,if you WANT to practice a Religion.
He was an Absolute Enemy of Reason,frightened of it most likely!conversing
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Jul 30, 2008 6:00 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
RDWIV
RDWIVRDWIVAlexandria, Louisiana USA9 Posts
The statues in church are symbols only honoring who they represent. Don't you have pictures on your walls of YOUR loved ones in your home? Mary is the Mother of God. Period. The Catholic Church is the only church founded by Jesus Christ himself. The King James bible is flawed and leaves out important verses when he revised it. Don't hypothisize and deduce too much in your analysis of what you read in the bible. Remember that there are mysteries that we will never understand. Don't get lost or stray away because of your lack of faith because faith is the most important component in all of this. By the statement you make about Mary being worshiped as a god is so way off and wrong, it indicates to me that you have been misguided in your education of the Catholic Church. But do not despair. I think you will be alright because eventually you will come around to the correct understanding that Mary was predestined and immune from all the stains of original sin in order to be the Mother of God. We pray to Mary so she will pray for us to her Son. Don't forget that their are angels too. Questions you have will not always be answered, but in the fact that they cannot be answered should strengthen your faith that heaven awaits you when God calls you home.
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Jul 30, 2008 6:02 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
RDWIV: The statues in church are symbols only honoring who they represent. Don't you have pictures on your walls of YOUR loved ones in your home? Mary is the Mother of God. Period. The Catholic Church is the only church founded by Jesus Christ himself. The King James bible is flawed and leaves out important verses when he revised it. Don't hypothisize and deduce too much in your analysis of what you read in the bible. Remember that there are mysteries that we will never understand. Don't get lost or stray away because of your lack of faith because faith is the most important component in all of this. By the statement you make about Mary being worshiped as a god is so way off and wrong, it indicates to me that you have been misguided in your education of the Catholic Church. But do not despair. I think you will be alright because eventually you will come around to the correct understanding that Mary was predestined and immune from all the stains of original sin in order to be the Mother of God. We pray to Mary so she will pray for us to her Son. Don't forget that their are angels too. Questions you have will not always be answered, but in the fact that they cannot be answered should strengthen your faith that heaven awaits you when God calls you home.



confused I'm sure gawd will be surprised to hear that.. roll eyes
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Jul 30, 2008 6:06 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
RDWIV: Questions you have will not always be answered, but in the fact that they cannot be answered should strengthen your faith that heaven awaits you when God calls you home.



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That has to rank up there as one of the stupidest things I have seen typed on these forums roll eyes
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Jul 30, 2008 6:07 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
BnaturAl: I'm sure gawd will be surprised to hear that..



Actually there are some passages in the bible where Jesus hinted that he was god professor
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Jul 30, 2008 6:10 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
crotalus_p: Actually there are some passages in the bible where Jesus hinted that he was god


doh well isn't that just peachy... confused


hints?
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Jul 30, 2008 6:14 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p: Actually there are some passages in the bible where Jesus hinted that he was god
Those """"HINTS""" were needed by the Romans to make Control of the Plebeians ABSOLUTE!professor conversing
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Jul 30, 2008 6:16 AM CST Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'..
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
BnaturAl: well isn't that just peachy... hints?


I believe after he “rose from the dead”roll eyes One of the apostles asked was he god and the j man said something on the lines of what do you think ??
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