Who are you? (75)

Aug 2, 2008 11:04 AM CST Who are you?
gongman
gongmangongmanCarcassone, Occitanie France28 Threads 2 Polls 515 Posts
FlowerOfTheSun: Shouldn't that be ping gong?


´spose I´d better make reference to "gong dong" before anyone else (Lago?) does tongue

There! Wind nicely taken from your sails rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 2, 2008 11:13 AM CST Who are you?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
gongman: ´spose I´d better make reference to "gong dong" before anyone else (Lago?) does

There! Wind nicely taken from your sails


What? To play ping pong? flirty
Aug 2, 2008 11:49 AM CST Who are you?
Cherokeegrandma
CherokeegrandmaCherokeegrandmaValencia, Spain4 Threads 163 Posts
Hi Rusty, that´s about one of the questions I used to ask when I was giving conference about Positive Thinking and Personal Growth:

Who are you? What did you come here for in this life?
....but people normaly just know how to respond to: How are you? .-)
As you might know, deep inner work is part of northamerican native training (First People...not the ones who came ) or warriors training, To face yourself and what you are hiding inside, to overcome your inner enemy. teddybear
Aug 2, 2008 1:37 PM CST Who are you?
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
FlowerOfTheSun: Twin!! Something DID happen to me that set me free!!! Well, at least it made look at how I was living and question the quality of my life!!!

I had a regular job (secondary teaching - EXTREMELY stressful), a regular mortgage (Extremely stressful as I was the only one I could trully count on for the payments to keep the roof over the heads of up to 5 people) , what should have been a regular marriage (extremely stressful as he had a mental condition), a daughter who bless her and love her made some wrong choices she is still "paying for" to this day (although she's getting there!!!) and who needed regular support emotionally and financially and a son who's needs, thank God, were pretty regular (still doing good now!!) ... Basically I was the "support system" for a few too many people!!! Me, myself got a little forgotten as someone had to keep the "show" together!!!

Till my body said ENOUGH!!!!! by the time I had a consultant apologising profuselly for "some internal growths" somehow having been discovered only at this late stage, I got the wake up call I needed!!!!! I decided if my days were numbered there was absolutely NO WAY I was going to spend them in the present quality of life (- 150 %) ... Then it hit me!! If the quality of my life was not acceptable if my days were numbered WHY should it be acceptable for ever if my days were not numbered?

Before even knowing what was going to happen to me, my marriage was over ... Then after removal of growth and biopsy which proved how lucky I was (only pre-cancerous!!!) I was never terribly materialistic, but even more so material things became totally immaterial. Sold house, got rid of most of my stuff, quit job ... came to terms with the fact I could not be my adult daughter's support system for ever and let her fly solo!!!! My son was already independent. I Lived in a small room out of my suitcases for a few months ... The whole household had been thinking of starting a new life in Spain for a couple of years anyway !!!! But now I only had me to think about!!!!! Then I joined CS and almost changed my plans

And then ...

I met gongman!!! I feel pretty free!!!! I am here because that is were I want to be. We are together because we want to!!!

Life is not fair ... sometimes ... but for me life is GREAT!!!! I don't really care much for social acceptance (I am me!) and I am working on getting rid of conditioning ...



thumbs up So great that everything turned out well for you Flower

YOU DESERVE IT JAJAJAJAJAJAbanana banana banana

And also serious talking: By that I mean when people really realize that a change is necessary...

teddybear
Aug 2, 2008 1:45 PM CST Who are you?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
u2Kitty: So great that everything turned out well for you Flower

YOU DESERVE IT JAJAJAJAJAJA

And also serious talking: By that I mean when people really realize that a change is necessary...


It's great to get "the kick up the butt" in time to still enjoy living how one wants to live!!!!!

Great new pic Kitty!!! hug
Aug 2, 2008 2:00 PM CST Who are you?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Dear FotS....

You wrote:

" Till my body said ENOUGH!!!!! by the time I had a consultant apologising profuselly for "some internal growths" somehow having been discovered only at this late stage, I got the wake up call I needed!!!!! I decided if my days were numbered there was absolutely NO WAY I was going to spend them in the present quality of life (- 150 %) ... Then it hit me!! If the quality of my life was not acceptable if my days were numbered WHY should it be acceptable for ever if my days were not numbered? "

Strange isn't it?

Our bodies often tell us when something is wrong with our 'non-physical' life............ sub-consciously you must have known that you just could not cope, and your body responded to your desire to 'get the hell out of dodge' by making you sick! ( I am not 100% sure, but there's a theory that states that's what often happens when we are in a situation we don't wish to be in).

Stress can certainly manifest itself with many physical symptoms.

Take, for example, a kid not wanting to go to school because he/she is being bullied; he/she could have a genuine 'upset tummy' on a regular basis to avoid going to school!

I really LOVE the last bit I've quoted from you:

'WHY should it be acceptable if my days were not numbered?'

Must have been a huge turning point for you....... and it has taken sacrifice on your side but now you are at last alive and happy - CONGRATULATIONS!
Aug 2, 2008 2:08 PM CST Who are you?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Cherokeegrandma: Hi Rusty, that´s about one of the questions I used to ask when I was giving conference about Positive Thinking and Personal Growth:

Who are you? What did you come here for in this life?
....but people normaly just know how to respond to: How are you? .-)
As you might know, deep inner work is part of northamerican native training (First People...not the ones who came ) or warriors training, To face yourself and what you are hiding inside, to overcome your inner enemy.


Thanks for your encouragement.

I really don't know.

The 'I' thing gets me too much.

An interest in other people and their needs seems healthier in some ways, but then the 'I' needs to be addressed too! It screws me up not knowing who I am and why I am and such stuff....... then it seems better just to get on with things and come back and look and see what's changed later.

Positive thinking sounds good, but positive action seems harder at times.

Maybe FotS change of life is similar - you can be caught up in working too hard to support other people where it has become too much to cope with and without any life left for oneself; the opposite can be being alone and clinging to a non-productive comfort zone out of the fear of failure..... they are totally different in the amount of energy physically expended but the same as in the need to change lifestyles dramatically!
Aug 2, 2008 2:59 PM CST Who are you?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
rusty_knight: Dear FotS....

You wrote:

" Till my body said ENOUGH!!!!! by the time I had a consultant apologising profuselly for "some internal growths" somehow having been discovered only at this late stage, I got the wake up call I needed!!!!! I decided if my days were numbered there was absolutely NO WAY I was going to spend them in the present quality of life (- 150 %) ... Then it hit me!! If the quality of my life was not acceptable if my days were numbered WHY should it be acceptable for ever if my days were not numbered? "

Strange isn't it?

Our bodies often tell us when something is wrong with our 'non-physical' life............ sub-consciously you must have known that you just could not cope, and your body responded to your desire to 'get the hell out of dodge' by making you sick! ( I am not 100% sure, but there's a theory that states that's what often happens when we are in a situation we don't wish to be in).

Stress can certainly manifest itself with many physical symptoms.

Take, for example, a kid not wanting to go to school because he/she is being bullied; he/she could have a genuine 'upset tummy' on a regular basis to avoid going to school!

I really LOVE the last bit I've quoted from you:

'WHY should it be acceptable if my days were not numbered?'

Must have been a huge turning point for you....... and it has taken sacrifice on your side but now you are at last alive and happy - CONGRATULATIONS!


Thank you Rusty!

When the body creates phantom symtoms to alert you that something is wrong in your everyday life, it's psycho-somatic and when investigated docs find nothing wrong... But when your body creates real disease in your body because there is such dis-ease in your life ... that's scary!!! My sub-conscious must have been prodding me for a while and as I was ignoring it (anti-depressants can repress anything!!!!!) it must have moved to levels 2!!! Real disease!!!

You know, it did not feel like sacrifice at all. It felt like choices I was making for myself and it felt and tasted like FREEDOM!!!! Still does!!! cheers
Aug 3, 2008 6:06 AM CST Who are you?
Cherokeegrandma
CherokeegrandmaCherokeegrandmaValencia, Spain4 Threads 163 Posts
rusty_knight: Peter, there is something I very much want to do.

I love helping people. There is a new career I'd like to take up, but it will mean me hiding my true personality to a certain degree. I need to learn to listen to people better - to understand what makes them tick, and to help them make their dreams come true!

I don't very much care for the handle, but I sincerely would like to be what is called a 'Life Coach'.

I'd love to be a Life Coach specifically for students, but that's not a good idea as students would have difficulty affording to pay my fees.

Most people are only available for telephone appointments of such a confidential nature when they are away from work and back at home; so I have decided to target men and women between the age of 60 and 70 who are retired, have a reasonable income but who feel that their retirement lacks something. It's my job to help them identify that missing something and get it!

My own experiences should help me identify and empathise with clients. I certainly hope so, but if I didn't feel able to get on with a potential client I'd immediately say so, and recommend somebody else.

Wish me luck!


Rusty dear, I am listening to people´s misseries for so many years, I need a real break, so you can take over my healing place in town, but read : "The power is within you" and "You can heal your life" first, both by Louise l Hay, Hayhouse edition (www.hayhouse.co.uk) and practice,practice,practice...or you might just end up like those who come to see you
applause

teddybear
Aug 3, 2008 6:56 AM CST Who are you?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Cherokeegrandma: Rusty dear, I am listening to people´s misseries for so many years, I need a real break, so you can take over my healing place in town, but read : "The power is within you" and "You can heal your life" first, both by Louise l Hay, Hayhouse edition (www.hayhouse.co.uk) and practice,practice,practice...or you might just end up like those who come to see you


Dear Cherokeegrandma,

I have no intention of helping SICK people; I am not qualified.

People with real problems from the past need expert help to realign the past with the present.

I want to help people who are 'ok' with their past and want to align their present with a better future.

The past is dead.

I want to take people from their present to a more fulfilling future with only a small input from their past experiences that 'block' them from acheiving their goals...if their past is too great a burden they need help from somebody else - not from me!

Thanks very much for your input (my last wife was a quarter cherokee and has blue eyes too!)!

~smiles~

Robert
Aug 4, 2008 7:55 AM CST Who are you?
twinself
twinselftwinself..., Majjistral Malta36 Threads 1,347 Posts
FlowerOfTheSun: Twin!! Something DID happen to me that set me free!!! Well, at least it made look at how I was living and question the quality of my life!!!

I had a regular job (secondary teaching - EXTREMELY stressful), a regular mortgage (Extremely stressful as I was the only one I could trully count on for the payments to keep the roof over the heads of up to 5 people) , what should have been a regular marriage (extremely stressful as he had a mental condition), a daughter who bless her and love her made some wrong choices she is still "paying for" to this day (although she's getting there!!!) and who needed regular support emotionally and financially and a son who's needs, thank God, were pretty regular (still doing good now!!) ... Basically I was the "support system" for a few too many people!!! Me, myself got a little forgotten as someone had to keep the "show" together!!!

Till my body said ENOUGH!!!!! by the time I had a consultant apologising profuselly for "some internal growths" somehow having been discovered only at this late stage, I got the wake up call I needed!!!!! I decided if my days were numbered there was absolutely NO WAY I was going to spend them in the present quality of life (- 150 %) ... Then it hit me!! If the quality of my life was not acceptable if my days were numbered WHY should it be acceptable for ever if my days were not numbered?

Before even knowing what was going to happen to me, my marriage was over ... Then after removal of growth and biopsy which proved how lucky I was (only pre-cancerous!!!) I was never terribly materialistic, but even more so material things became totally immaterial. Sold house, got rid of most of my stuff, quit job ... came to terms with the fact I could not be my adult daughter's support system for ever and let her fly solo!!!! My son was already independent. I Lived in a small room out of my suitcases for a few months ... The whole household had been thinking of starting a new life in Spain for a couple of years anyway !!!! But now I only had me to think about!!!!! Then I joined CS and almost changed my plans

And then ...

I met gongman!!! I feel pretty free!!!! I am here because that is were I want to be. We are together because we want to!!!

Life is not fair ... sometimes ... but for me life is GREAT!!!! I don't really care much for social acceptance (I am me!) and I am working on getting rid of conditioning ...


Go girl!

You surely have *found* your path and your match! Hence the wink following my comment on you still wearing your lovely smile! banana

You instill hope for the ones who have *given up*...and confirm that it is only when one decides to do *his/her* own thing and be *free*...that things seem to turn out naturally good!

You two...congrats... there is an aura about you that is inspiring!

Sound the gongs!! And let the Ripple Effect carry the good vibes...

grin yay hug
Aug 4, 2008 8:19 AM CST Who are you?
FlowerOfTheSun: Thank you Rusty!

When the body creates phantom symtoms to alert you that something is wrong in your everyday life, it's psycho-somatic and when investigated docs find nothing wrong... But when your body creates real disease in your body because there is such dis-ease in your life ... that's scary!!! My sub-conscious must have been prodding me for a while and as I was ignoring it (anti-depressants can repress anything!!!!!) it must have moved to levels 2!!! Real disease!!!

You know, it did not feel like sacrifice at all. It felt like choices I was making for myself and it felt and tasted like FREEDOM!!!! Still does!!!


yes... I know about those symtoms, I once had otitis for about 3 months, I even had to have my ear hoovered (I know that's not the word, but nevermind) Then I realised what was causing it... so I threw that out of my liferolling on the floor laughing no more otitis!applause
Aug 4, 2008 5:04 PM CST Who are you?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
twinself: Go girl!

You surely have *found* your path and your match! Hence the wink following my comment on you still wearing your lovely smile!

You instill hope for the ones who have *given up*...and confirm that it is only when one decides to do *his/her* own thing and be *free*...that things seem to turn out naturally good!

You two...congrats... there is an aura about you that is inspiring!

Sound the gongs!! And let the Ripple Effect carry the good vibes...


wave Twin!!! hug The amount of "luck" we seem to be having is sooooooooooooooooo "the Universe is our side" it's awesome!!!!!!!

As for the gongs ... they get sounded regularly and especially when we work jointly doing healing therapies ... the good vibes are on their way!!!! teddybear
Aug 4, 2008 5:06 PM CST Who are you?
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
dragonfly88: yes... I know about those symtoms, I once had otitis for about 3 months, I even had to have my ear hoovered (I know that's not the word, but nevermind) Then I realised what was causing it... so I threw that out of my life no more otitis!


Know exactely what you mean!!! hug We MUST listen to our bodies!!!!

bouquet
Aug 19, 2008 9:59 AM CST Who are you?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
I am what I am and that is all that I am...I'm popeye the sailor man.....Sorry, but couldn't resist. It was the first thought that popped into my head.

We all have three faces...The one we show to strangers, the one we show to close friends and family and the one we only show to ourselves. I don't think we can ever rationalize who we are....
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