has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far? ( Archived) (8)

Aug 14, 2008 8:28 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
has the visual rights of Americans gone to far?

From refineries, oil wells,power plants and even improvement to the countries infrastructure has been continually blocked by those that for the mere reason they do not want to wake up seeing them from their personal dwelling windows.

At what cost should the majority of citizens be forced to pay because a few have an issue with having to see the structures out their window or backyard?
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Aug 14, 2008 8:40 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
fireliter: has the visual rights of Americans gone to far?

From refineries, oil wells,power plants and even improvement to the countries infrastructure has been continually blocked by those that for the mere reason they do not want to wake up seeing them from their personal dwelling windows.

At what cost should the majority of citizens be forced to pay because a few have an issue with having to see the structures out their window or backyard?


I get the jest of what you're saying. Ted Kennedy not wanting windmills in his neighborhood because they are unsightly. professor
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Aug 14, 2008 9:00 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
fireliter: has the visual rights of Americans gone to far?

From refineries, oil wells,power plants and even improvement to the countries infrastructure has been continually blocked by those that for the mere reason they do not want to wake up seeing them from their personal dwelling windows.

At what cost should the majority of citizens be forced to pay because a few have an issue with having to see the structures out their window or backyard?


I don't see any coherent rights theory justifying "visual rights." That isn't to say that our esthetic desires aren't important - just that I have no "right" to demand that my neighbor's home be "beautiful" according to my esthetic standards.

The marketplace and basic mutual agreement/cooperation should be adequate to ensure that people's "structural esthetics" can be satisifed to some degree. Of course, modern zoning laws - if one subscribes to their rationale - already help prevent this to a considerable extent.
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Aug 14, 2008 9:55 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I love it when a family moves in next to a bar, then complains about the noise. Gotta love it! doh
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Aug 14, 2008 10:36 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
from a bridge to Canada being shot down to the denial of right to build a Nascar race trac to even an amusement park on an old abandoned steel mill, my communitys minority ( the affluent ) have blocked every opportunity for growth and expansion.

yet these same individuals want more law enforcement in their neighborhoods, and guess who picks up that tab.
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Aug 14, 2008 10:46 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
yes...people are no longer able to live in their own homes and be comfortable without some home owners association telling them how to live. I would never own a home in a community. If I owned a home, it would be in the country...with no pathetic people around me
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Aug 14, 2008 10:50 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
fireliter: has the visual rights of Americans gone to far?

From refineries, oil wells,power plants and even improvement to the countries infrastructure has been continually blocked by those that for the mere reason they do not want to wake up seeing them from their personal dwelling windows.

At what cost should the majority of citizens be forced to pay because a few have an issue with having to see the structures out their window or backyard?


All them little "Holier Than Thou", not in my back yard are paying the price.. Foreclosures in this area are up over 300% from a year ago. No worries though, the "government" will bail their sorry asses out.frustrated
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Aug 14, 2008 10:51 AM CST has the right of neighborhoods aesthetics/ambiance in america gone too far?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
fireliter: from a bridge to Canada being shot down to the denial of right to build a Nascar race trac to even an amusement park on an old abandoned steel mill, my communitys minority ( the affluent ) have blocked every opportunity for growth and expansion.

yet these same individuals want more law enforcement in their neighborhoods, and guess who picks up that tab.



It's a viscous circle....really. I'd prefer a small town.
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