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Aug 15, 2008 9:56 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
simiain
simiainsimiaindumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland UK24 Posts
Conrad73: We had ours up into the 1800's,from the early 13th Century.
Nope,gave up on all of the Beer,damn thing was getting me drunk.



swiss beer is good beer i know this from personal experiencebeer
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Aug 15, 2008 10:27 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
Appologies Simiain, now I see the truth in your spelling and understand you sentiments of course! You really think Swiss beer is good! Our Sleemans beer 'Honey" brew is the best in the world!!

In 1834, Sleeman Brewery was established in Ontario, where it flourished for more than a century. But by the 1930s, says Dan Fox, the company’s vice-president of business development, " like a lot of industrious Canadians, the Sleeman family was making an extra buck by shipping to Al Capone during Prohibition. " Sounds like a great idea. But apparently the correct palms were not greased, and Sleeman got caught. The brewery was given two options by authorities on both sides of the border: admit guilt, pay a fine, and close down, or do all of the above and go to jail.

They reopened a number of years back and every one loves the stuff!! Even big AL loved it!!
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Aug 15, 2008 10:59 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
simiain
simiainsimiaindumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland UK24 Posts
iamsimply: Appologies Simiain, now I see the truth in your spelling and understand you sentiments of course! You really think Swiss beer is good! Our Sleemans beer 'Honey" brew is the best in the world!!

In 1834, Sleeman Brewery was established in Ontario, where it flourished for more than a century. But by the 1930s, says Dan Fox, the company’s vice-president of business development, " like a lot of industrious Canadians, the Sleeman family was making an extra buck by shipping to Al Capone during Prohibition. " Sounds like a great idea. But apparently the correct palms were not greased, and Sleeman got caught. The brewery was given two options by authorities on both sides of the border: admit guilt, pay a fine, and close down, or do all of the above and go to jail.

They reopened a number of years back and every one loves the stuff!! Even big AL loved it!!


well then you would be putting Sleeman against Sulwarth and the Sulwarth Gold is beyond compare, travel to Galloway and taste the truth
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Aug 15, 2008 11:14 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
DO I detect envy??????sigh
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Aug 15, 2008 11:56 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
I checked the subway routes an i can't find Galloway anywhere!! Besides that's one of Canada's export beers shipped to countries to be relabeled!!dancing beer
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Aug 16, 2008 5:54 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
simiain
simiainsimiaindumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland UK24 Posts
HJFinAZ: DO I detect envy??????






envious of what?
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Aug 16, 2008 5:43 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Yep I got it, the world has been a single mass conspriracy since WWII, of undocumented meetings, hidden agendas, and the UK/US governments placing less than ethnic people into power in foreign governments around the world. So that eventually, US/UK could invade Iraq....60 years after WWII....to control the world oil supplies.
Have beer, you need one.beer
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Aug 16, 2008 11:52 PM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
simiain
simiainsimiaindumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland UK24 Posts
No the meetings have been documented and our governments continue to fess up to the operations generally about 25 years after the fact


Bay of Tonkin anyone.


It is all documented and is available if you can be bothered to dig it up.


Do you remember the anthrax attacks blamed on Al Qaeda or Iraq, remember the impassioned speech by Colin Powell at the UN how he held up a little bottle of the stuff and explained

Second, when Iraq finally admitted having these weapons in 1995, the quantities were vast. Less than a teaspoon of dry anthrax, a little bit about this amount -- this is just about the amount of a teaspoon -- less than a teaspoon full of dry anthrax in an envelope shutdown the United States Senate in the fall of 2001. This forced several hundred people to undergo emergency medical treatment and killed two postal workers just from an amount just about this quantity that was inside of an envelope.




. It now after the fact turns out to be the work of a US citizen, a lone "Unabomber" who commits suicide before he can be cross examined in a public court

Are you suggesting that the US/UK governments do not lie do not engage with black flag operations and have not sought, to control and secure energy supplies?
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Aug 17, 2008 3:36 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
simiain: No the meetings have been documented and our governments continue to fess up to the operations generally about 25 years after the factBay of Tonkin anyone.It is all documented and is available if you can be bothered to dig it up.Do you remember the anthrax attacks blamed on Al Qaeda or Iraq, remember the impassioned speech by Colin Powell at the UN how he held up a little bottle of the stuff and explained

Second, when Iraq finally admitted having these weapons in 1995, the quantities were vast. Less than a teaspoon of dry anthrax, a little bit about this amount -- this is just about the amount of a teaspoon -- less than a teaspoon full of dry anthrax in an envelope shutdown the United States Senate in the fall of 2001. This forced several hundred people to undergo emergency medical treatment and killed two postal workers just from an amount just about this quantity that was inside of an envelope.

. It now after the fact turns out to be the work of a US citizen, a lone "Unabomber" who commits suicide before he can be cross examined in a public court

Are you suggesting that the US/UK governments do not lie do not engage with black flag operations and have not sought, to control and secure energy supplies?


I am going to show you how a large majority of consriracy theories begin.

Take the anathrax attacks for instance. What is both within and outside of government.....speculation begins to whom might be done it.
The investigators have may possible leads pointing in many different directions. Media that is following the story.....adds more to the group or prospects. And individuals.....not mentioning names......add even more as the sit in a pub or bar some place.

Then clever fellows like yourself......when the real culprit is found as was this anthrax scienctist that commited suciede......dig them all up and blog on them. Why? Well to you if fits this inner thoery that all is a conspriracy and all are consprirators. Like I said earlier.....have a anohter...beer
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Aug 17, 2008 4:29 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
simiain
simiainsimiaindumfries, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland UK24 Posts
All the world's a conspiracy, And all the men and women merely conspirators :-)


The You just make things fit your troubled mind, is very neat, and can't be argued against without months of placing the documents in front of you and you reading them, which you don't want to do, so no matter where we go from here that is your line.


But understand many nations don't wear Fox blinkers and it is that reality that you meet when you travel physically or virtually, so bless you and good luck with your oil mad economy.

$113.79 banana banana banana

five years ago today $24.90 confused
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Aug 17, 2008 4:43 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
simiain: so bless you and good luck with your oil mad economy.

$113.79

five years ago today $24.90


All the world is an "Oil Mad Economy" my friend...including Scotland. Without it: there is *no* economy! There is *no* substitute, there are no *alternatives*...nothing that will equal the cost effectiveness or ease of production to be found with it. And it isn't just about cars...just about EVERYTHING you touch, throughout any given day, is brought to you from OIL! The keyboard you use for your boring rants is made with petroleum!

Oil is the engine of democracy. Get used to it...nothing new here... professor
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Aug 17, 2008 4:57 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
Is oil the engine of democracy? Since when?

Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Russia, Azerbajdzjan… you name it.

Oil is fuel for the engine. Period.

The engine for democracy is thinking people, “boring ranters” included.
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Aug 17, 2008 5:04 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
Tulefel: Is oil the engine of democracy? Since when?

Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Russia, Azerbajdzjan… you name it.

Oil is fuel for the engine. Period.

The engine for democracy is thinking people, “boring ranters” included.


And just how would "boring ranters" get their message out without it? Virtually every media is brought to you by: TADA! Oil............
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Aug 17, 2008 5:14 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
orhansenbahar: I wonder whether these four are sticked with a glue made of the brains of American people, powder of dynamite, Uranium and very very very much money...


And to the OP: hire a translator....rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 17, 2008 5:18 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HondoLaneNJ: And to the OP: hire a translator....
Probably be as redundant as carrying Sand into the Desert.laugh rolling on the floor laughing wave
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Aug 17, 2008 5:19 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
howboutu
howboutuhowboutuDecatur, Alabama USA3 Threads 796 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: LOL...I was going to say that very thing Bro...I rarely buy into the trolling, but sometimes I am in the mood to argue....



It seems lately that a lot of post are being placed here by design...to see how many can be provoked in to ...what everlaugh


If anyone can tune in to "Coast to Coast".... after midnight here in the south. Its a radio program that seems to only deal with things like that ...and of course ghosts...and alien abductions! sometimes good entertainment!laugh

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Aug 17, 2008 5:20 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
howboutu: It seems lately that a lot of post are being placed here by design...to see how many can be provoked in to ...what ever If anyone can tune in to "Coast to Coast".... after midnight here in the south. Its a radio program that seems to only deal with things like that ...and of course ghosts...and alien abductions! sometimes good entertainment!


Coast to Coast? Never heard of it...I would love to check it out though!

Cuz...I'm like that...laugh
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Aug 17, 2008 5:27 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
howboutu
howboutuhowboutuDecatur, Alabama USA3 Threads 796 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: Coast to Coast? Never heard of it...I would love to check it out though!



Cuz...I'm like that...
laugh

They have a web site..you should check it out..a real professional host and program format.......sometimes some real good entertainment
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Aug 17, 2008 5:30 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
I find it funny how political parties can create so much dissent...and it's all about making the other party look bad...When the hell time do they get to run the country??????? My own included in that....It never seems to be about what's right or best for the country...just about winning the vote...popularity decisions...vs. need decisions.....and it doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong according to facts or based on what's best for the people either...but what benefits them....Not only that but die-hard supporters can rarely see or want to admit what's wrong with their own parties....I mean what is all this?????


I am not in favour of parties...never have been...give me independents who want to do what's right for the country and prove it by actions not words anytime over all this party B.S....Independent thinkers who don't get chastised for not going along with the party even if it's wrong.....One group mind is dangerous because when there are wrongs...There are big wrongs and the rest of the administration has to fall in line...


All party politics is about them under the guise of it being on behalf of the people....When the hell is it ever going to be about the people...since that's who they represent and whose lves are effected by their every day decisions...and are working on behalf of?????

People get so wrapped up in the issues and their own parties...they forget the bottom line of what a government is suppose to be and who they are suppose to be representing and it's not just the popular vote of supporters....the people they can gain something from..it's suppose to be the whole country....professor roll eyes dunno


Have we become soooooo blinded as people that we can't even see what's right in front of our faces....that all party politics does is divide and conquer...so when it comes to talking about a country being united whether it be for peace or whatever...that's never gonna happen...Why???? Because the split from party politics will never come together for anything...It doesn't matter what it is...If it's not their party..It's wrong.....I just get soooooo frustrated to see what it's done to almost every country where there is a party system...when in fact as far as I'm concerned...none of them are right!!!!!!!!!!


wine
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Aug 17, 2008 5:31 AM CST The guns, the war, money and the American Culture...
HondoLaneNJ: Coast to Coast? Never heard of it...I would love to check it out though!

Cuz...I'm like that...
It's the George Noory thing.uh oh
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